Mass Effect 3

[Rhyis.]

So Leviathan is the Kohr-Ah, and normal Reapers are the Kzer-Za.

[Brill Weave]

"he lost his reaper memory when he was in a reaper car crash".

lmfao

[mightyg]

Frankly still wish they hadn't even come up with the crucible. Wouldn't an all out battle with every ship decked out in Thanix Cannons been more satisfying? Meanwhile Shepherd boards Harbinger and fights off bouts of indoctrination as he makes his way to the core and the final showdown with the Illusive Man as he merges his conciousness with Harbinger. High readyness causes Harbinger to take damage from outside forces and interrupts the Illusive man's plans. Win. Low readyness shepherd has to sacrifice himself and the fleet barely ekes out a victory resulting in a winnable but protracted conflict with the Reapers. Ending leaves plenty of room for closure and preserves the Reapers as secondary antagonists in later games. Also allows for the consequences of losing other civilizations to the reapers in the aftermath. AND you fucking see what the fuck the Quarians look like...fuck. May be a little less daring of an ending, but if you're going to have cliche, it might as well be good cliche.

[Brill Weave]

Whoa there son. We can't have that kind of rational thinking here. You best head on to another thread.

[Rhyis.]

Crucible is mandatory. Gotta have the Sa-Matra.

[BaneTheBrawler]

Yeah, I wasn't completely down with the idea of a magic button like the Crucible (especially since when you play the game from start to finish it feels like you build it in ~a month) from the start, but I figured it would work out okay... I figured wrong.

[Rulke]

Knowing how the game ends, and accepting it for what it is, i really can't see myself shelling out any more cash for DLC. I just can't muster the interest anymore. We get what? Trivial plot, a new weapon maybe and some war assests? Meh

[BaneTheBrawler]

Except it's free.

Edit: Extended cut is free. The speculated DLC probably won't be.

[Tyrath]

Yeah he means the DLC where you get to play more.

On the contrary I'm excited for it because ME3 ending aside, the gameplay was fantastic and a new mission should be fun. Even if just for a couple hours.

[Lonely]

http://pastebin.com/rHzNDedX

I see some multiplayer stuff in there. Also I see Ultra Light Pistol Material and other new mods. This goes along with the Earth MP leak DLC that promised new mods.

EDIT: They are all listed as Rare quality.

Assault Rifle Omni-Blade - Increase melee damage

Assault Rifle High-Velocity Barrel - Allow bullets to pierce objects but at reduced damage. Ignores[X]% of an armored target's defenses. Increase weapon weight.

Assault Rifle Thermal Scope - Increase accuracy, increase weapon weight

Sniper Rifle High-Velocity Barrel - Allow bullets to pierce objects but at reduced damage. Ignores[X]% of an armored target's defenses. Increase weapon weight.

Sniper Rifle Thermal Scope - Increase accuracy, increase weapon weight

Shotgun Omni Blade - Increase melee damage, increase weight

Shotgun High-Velocity Barrel - Allow bullets to pierce objects but at reduced damage. Ignores[X]% of an armored target's defenses. Increase weapon weight.

Pistol Cranial Trauma System - Increase headshot damage

Pistol Heavy Barrel - Increase damage, increase weight

Ultralight Pistol Materials - Reduce weight

SMG High-Velocity Barrel - Allow bullets to pierce objects but at reduced damage. Ignores[X]% of an armored target's defenses.

SMG Recoil System - Increase weapon stability

Textures: http://minus.com/m9oODlCCo/4g

[Kuya]

I didn't know that the stargazer dialogue changes if you picked the refusal ending.

edit: i also didn't realize you get new dialogue options with the catalyst until i played through myself.

[vrumpt]

Yeah, I actually enjoy the catalyst now. I mean he's no Vigil or Sovereign dialogue, but he's now something to look forward to. I loved hearing what he had to say.

[hexagram23]

Spoiler: show

After everything Sheps learned from the Starchild about the nature of Reapers to simply continue ahead and destroy the reapers is renegade by the precedent set down by the game.

Renegade Sheps desire to do just about anything to stop the Reapers plays out on a grand scale here with a conscious choice to wipe out all the races harvested by Reapers, the Reapers themselves and AIs in the process. Much like the various renegade interrupts in ME RenShep gets the job done but at the cost of a high body count including his own.

(Fuck that breathing nonsense btw, RenShep is dead)

The idea of controlling the Reapers is Paragon because it takes into account that the Reapers even as a personal enemy exist for a reason and Shep sacrifices himself (physical body loss... take two) in order to create a galaxy where everyone 'wins'. Paragon has always been chock full of the goody, goody choices and saving the Reapers is the pinnacle of forgiveness on behalf of ParaShep.

Negotiating, Compromising, Forgiving, Nauseatingly Moral. What a true Shepherd.

Given what we've seen of Paragon Shep, you think he'd/she'd do anything less than try to keep order in the galaxy given control the Reapers? I mean the absolute power could corrupt but that would be an unforseen circumstance which wouldn't be surprising when you're as naive as some of those paragon interrupts would imply this Shep is.

I did lol at the Refusal ending though. Guess Liara got to use her time capsule after all.

Spoiler: show

I disagree 100%.

The only real honest choice, if we're going by how the story was presented to us, is Destroy. Keep in mind they've spent the better part of 3 games (minus the last 5 minutes of 3 obviously) giving you multiple reasons why joining, helping or even parlaying with the Reapers is disastrous.

So to completely disregard that in the last 5 minutes....well, it's retarded.

[Kuya]

He didn't really provide much information but he did reveal quite plainly that.

Spoiler: show

1. The reapers appearance is based on the race that created the catalyst, and thus, the race that originally created the citadel, and i assume, the mass relays. Or at least that's what i understood. He could have meant that his creators merely made the reapers look that way, and not that the creators looked like that themselves.

2. The creators of the catalyst were forced against their will by the catalyst into the reaper bodies, so it looks like the creators never wanted this.

3. It looks like this pretty much confirms that the catalyst is an example of an AI gone out of control, which is ironic. By out of control, i mean, being too good at what it was created for.

[Ohemgee]

[Ohemgee]

[Rhyis.]

http://i.qkme.me/3of6a1.jpg

[Athas]

I'll give credit that the extended cut is an improvement at least, although it shoots the Indoctrination theory all full of holes. But I still can't bring myself to say the endings are good or even okay. The God Child catalyst has always been the problem, shows up at the very end feels like an asspull no matter how much they try to fluff it up. It wasn't edgy or clever when the Matrix did it either, it was just dumb and felt awkward.

Wouldn't it have been more satisfying to have Shepdard just active the Crucible and it's effectiveness as a weapon determined on how much you built it up and how many engineer and scientists you recruited and the rest of the battle played out according to your war assets? Perhaps if you did well enough the Normaday is able to break though to Shepard and too poorly Harbinger is able to fight his way to the Crucible and finishes you personally.

I know wishing it's so is a waste but is it so wrong to go into the ending expecting at least that much given that the series up to that point was amazing? I mean in the suicide mission, you didn't end up in a room with the Collector general and given a few options on how you want the game to end, but ending ranging from everyone died to making it though without losing anyone depending on how much you built up your ship and earned the loyalties of your crew.

[Rulke]

Except it's free.

Edit: Extended cut is free. The speculated DLC probably won't be.

Yeah, I mean future DLC, not the Extended Cut. Leviathan Reaper, or "Take Back Omega" or whatever BW throws at us.. eh.. not feeling it at present.

[Moss]

First thing I did was to shot the fucking kid. Boy did I laugh at the reaction. Then raged at having to do it all over again without an option to skip cutscenes :/

Same here lol. Was really not expecting anything to happen.

DLC is an improvement but Bioware dug themselves too deep of a hole with the original ending.

It would have been nice to survive and hook up with Miranda again but oh well...