Sleep advice

**Vandole** · 2010-12-16 22:28

i'm sure there's quite a few people here who have trouble sleeping. i've always had trouble but i've just taken either tylenol PM or melatonin to supplement my schedule, but melatonin isnt working as well anymore and if i take tylenol PM i physically cannot wake up in the morning because of this. i exercise but just like most of you i spend a good damn part of my day in front of a monitor(which doesnt help at all.)

i'm going to be going to a doctor after christmas to get their opinion, but i figure i should see what those of you who actually have already gone to the doc about this have to say.

i'd love to be able to fall asleep before 6 am and wake up before noon again though. Fuck.

**Celestialstrife** · 2010-12-16 22:33

What is it exactly that is keeping you up? I sometimes have sleeping issues as well but that's if I have a lot on my mind. If that is the case then I tend to try to watch a movie in bed or try to listen to something to try to just focus on one thing, rather then my mind racing about something.

Demosthenes11 · 2010-12-16 22:34

have sex/masturbate before going to bed -> go to bed right after

**Maguspk** · 2010-12-16 22:37

Do what everyone else does, just stay up and then go to bed at a normal time. Stop taking drugs.

**Eaglestrike** · 2010-12-16 22:40

Exercise more.

**Vandole** · 2010-12-16 23:42

even as a kid i've always had problems sleeping. i'm an extremely light sleeper so i need uberquiet for sleep. when i used to have a bedtime (like fourth grade for example) i'd have to go to bed at 10:00 and i'd be up til one or two in the morning just sitting in my bed because i just can't sleep. my only good sleep has ever been at school or when i'm drunk.

i run for about an hour a day, i generally have a wank then i listen to a podcast whilst in the bed and medicated. lol

when i was in band and marching ontop of running 3 miles a day on a treadmill it didn't help me at all to fall asleep. i'll get tired and then just out of nowhere i'll be completely fine.

**ZarakiKujata** · 2010-12-16 23:44

dont fuck around w/ melatonin, your body only needs minute doses much smaller then what youll get in over the counter pills and taking too much overloads the receptors, laying off that should help.

edit: and seconding the jerking comment. its muy bueno.

Demosthenes11 · 2010-12-16 23:46

I've been waking up earlier (9 am or so) for work everyday, and after working a full day and then fucking around 11, I fall to sleep before I can pull out sometimes

**Vandole** · 2010-12-16 23:50

lucky you.. even having class all day, gym, work, then study i'll still only sleep for about 2-3 hours if i take something.

@the melatonin thing, a doctor suggested it to me last year, then i looked up you can't overdose on it. i've been off of melatonin for a week and i've been feeling nothing but drained. your body apparently makes .5 mg melatonin when its sleepy time, i'm used to taking about 18 times that(each pill is 3 mg)

**wyrmtung** · 2010-12-17 00:21

I agree with exploring the alternative methods but you did mention Tylenol PM. Benadryl is a better alternative to Tylenol PM. The active ingredient in Tylenol PM that makes you drowsy is diphenhydramine which is basically Benadryl. Taking Benadryl instead allows you to avoid potential liver problems from taking acetaminophen (Tylenol).

**ZarakiKujata** · 2010-12-17 00:25

Originally Posted by Vandole

lucky you.. even having class all day, gym, work, then study i'll still only sleep for about 2-3 hours if i take something.

@the melatonin thing, a doctor suggested it to me last year, then i looked up you can't overdose on it. i've been off of melatonin for a week and i've been feeling nothing but drained. your body apparently makes .5 mg melatonin when its sleepy time, i'm used to taking about 18 times that(each pill is 3 mg)

yeah, the .5mg is all your body needs, the 18x dose is just fucking with your body, kind of surprised your doctor told you that w/out giving you prescription for the .5mg doses they use in studies and shit.

**Vandole** · 2010-12-17 00:31

Originally Posted by wyrmtung

I agree with exploring the alternative methods but you did mention Tylenol PM. Benadryl is a better alternative to Tylenol PM. The active ingredient in Tylenol PM that makes you drowsy is diphenhydramine which is basically Benadryl. Taking Benadryl instead allows you to avoid potential liver problems from taking acetaminophen (Tylenol).

i already take advil/naproxen/ibuprofen 800 because i have a bad knee cause of band. shit sucks. this has also caused my running to slow down quite a bit. and the cold weather really fucks with my asthma.

Originally Posted by zarakikujata

yeah, the .5mg is all your body needs, the 18x dose is just fucking with your body, kind of surprised your doctor told you that w/out giving you prescription for the .5mg doses they use in studies and shit.

from what i read on a study, they were giving people batshit retarded amounts of melatonin per night to help them sleep, it never fucked with them.

i'll be trying some different stuff tonight, especially things like no smoking late at night since smoking keeps you up. i'm trying to quit anyway. i'm taking a break from melatonin because i took it almost every night this past school semester. hopefully i'll be able to get some sleep since i havent slept much in the past few days

**Wulfgang** · 2010-12-17 00:37

I sleep like a log so I'm not much help. Somewhat on topic: Does anyone else get the most ridiculous dreams on Melatonin? I have taken it ~half a dozen times and each time I feel like I'm tripping face when I fall asleep.

**Vandole** · 2010-12-17 00:47

my roommate takes it since i got him started on it, he always wakes up like he just conquered sparta. he says he feels like a million bucks..

different strokes i guess.

**Fahren** · 2010-12-17 00:54

Ganja helps =3

**Skyylya** · 2010-12-17 00:56

drinking works

for clarification, my wife and i both barely sleep. she rotates benadryl, advil pm and tylenol pm and i usually have a few drinks. i've tried taking nothing and trying to relax and whatever but it doesn't work. dr prescribed me some temazopam which was nice but that scrip ran out and i haven't bothered to get more.

you don't need to drink a lot, just 1 or 2 to put your mind behind.

**Shenrien** · 2010-12-17 01:00

masturbating/sex, it works.

**Vandole** · 2010-12-17 01:09

Originally Posted by Fahren

Ganja helps =3

i'm not friends with pot. it made me have a mental breakdown when i smoked this past weekend.

haven't slept right since. it really fucked me up.

**kyod** · 2010-12-17 01:10

Nyquil puts me out like a light, the only problem is I end up oversleeping :/

**kuronosan** · 2010-12-17 01:21

I would recommend most antihistamines that have drowsy ingredients in them (benadryl, etc) as they will usually do the job in knocking you out.

Drinking is not good for your liver, which makes most of the proteins you need to keep your body working properly. Your brain does the rest.

Believe it or not, masturbation is a good way to knock yourself out if you can't sleep. Just keep doing it until you feel super drowsy. If that doesn't work, your other option is high-caffeine stimulants. Taken early enough, you'll come down in a trough right around when you want to go to bed and crash hardcore. Caffeine works by blocking up the receptors that usually say "Hey fucker, you're tired".

In a sense, you'll exhaust yourself without feeling tired to the point where you can go to sleep. Do this a few times until you get a normal sleep cycle.

Also, I'm not sure if anyone mentioned it, but your diet matters too. Don't eat anything 2-3 hours before you sleep because your body will keep you awake while you digest it.

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