Iron Man 3 (May 3, 2013)

[kuronosan]

With an X.

[Kaslo]

The biggest miss with this movie according to thatguywiththeglasses.com is:

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The true villian should have been the one night stand doctor girl. It would have been the best resolution of Tony's playboy days and his new commitment to Pepper. It also would have worked well with the trilogy, IM1: villian was a result of his past business, IM2: villian was a result of his family legacy, and IM3: a result of his past personal life

[Skai]

Saw it, loved it. Extremely entertaining. The "twist" with the villain did not detract from the movie. Ben Kingsley was incredibly fun to watch.

Favorite part was the post credit scene. Best bros for life

[Alarial]

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Movie didn't do it for me. I see Iron Man for cool fights and the "wow moment" when they introduce some new cool tech. This movie had neither. His suit spent most of the movie being broken/not working for cheap comedic value. We got to see nothing of the capabilities of his other suits, which basically flew in shot a bit before being torn apart by extremis people. There wasn't a single moment where I was impressed by some technical magic. First movie had our first view of the suit, which was amazing. 2nd movie at least had war machine/super lasers. 3rd movie = walk around with a beat up Iron Man suit attached to a car battery.. and Tony Stark shooting people with a pistol.

[Marootsoobutsu]

So, saw it. I enjoyed it, but I wasn't impressed by it... some parts just dragged on for far too long to really keep my interest, while other parts just felt under-explored or poorly explained. While RDJ was great, Potts felt like Iron Man 2 and The Avengers just never happened to her... it also felt more like Tony Stark than Iron Man... even the last fight scene, while hugely enjoyable, felt under-developed. I dunno. I liked it in that I had fun watching it, but it felt like it fell well short of the first two in terms of character and plot development. The actions scenes had me into it(especially

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when his mansion/palace/whatever gets blown up

), but where I was riveted to the between-the-action in the IM1 and IM2 and The Avengers, here I found myself just wanting it to get to the next bit of stunt work. And I HATED Kingsley's role.

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The 'twist' there was just so shoddily done compared to the same (sort of) twist from Batman Begins. It just had zero plausibility for me. Not that there's a fake Mandarin, but that he's just some druggie of the street... and that it was so poorly guarded a secret that this guy is just a tool. The motives seemed so small and so petty overall; I don't picture The Mandarin sitting with a coat and top hat, twisting his mustache and chanting, "Nyah, see, we'll get all the money, see? Nyah." but that's what it felt like... a villain more suited for Dudley Doright than Iron Man.

Edit: Oh, and I was never an Iron Man fan growing up, and don't know MUCH about The Mandarin, and knew nothing about extremis, and I was hugely disappointed.

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Making the villains essentially just hyper-amped and super-powered Wall-Street-execs-as-told-by-Occupy-Wall-Street doesn't feel like all that... well, villainous. We already had that plot, done much better in the first one.

[Qalbert]

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Tony Stark is Iron Man. That was the whole point of the movie, a less glib response to:


I mean I can understand wanting more suit time/action scenes, but this seemed like a necessary step in the character's development.

[Omniyoji]

Really enjoyed the movie, despite a bunch of problems that people have mentioned already:

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The Mandarin twist annoyed me as well, but not because I care about how it's done in comic books but because I was really excited to see more of the badass Ben Kingsley. That never really happened. Even though he was very funny in the role.

Was also hoping for Extremis Iron man, that never happened either.

And the Clean Slate was dumb as shit, especially since he's worried about being able to protect his loved ones so he goes ahead and destroys all his weapons that can keep them safe? Wat.

Other than all that, it was still a really fun movie.

Wholeheartedly agree, especially the badass Ben Kingsley bit ._.

[Epysian]

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Tony Stark is Iron Man. That was the whole point of the movie, a less glib response to:


I mean I can understand wanting more suit time/action scenes, but this seemed like a necessary step in the character's development.

You know when he proved to everyone that he was more than a man in a suit? When he nearly died to save everyone in New York. We didn't need a whole fucking movie afterwards to prove that again. Misguided movie was misguided.

[Tarage]

Favorite part was the post credit scene. Best bros for life

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If by bros you mean troll and victim then yes. Poor guy probably gets poked by Stark all the time.

[Baelorn]

You know when he proved to everyone that he was more than a man in a suit? When he nearly died to save everyone in New York. We didn't need a whole fucking movie afterwards to prove that again. Misguided movie was misguided.

He may have proved it to everyone else but what mattered is that he didn't believe it anymore. He realized how completely ill-prepared he was to deal with some of the threats that are out there. He's not a God or a Rage Monster or an Enhanced Super Soldier. He's just a guy in a suit and, even with the suit, he almost died. Instead of focusing on himself he focused on building new suits(a lot of them). That wasn't the answer.

The movie could have been written better but I liked the way they explained what he went through in Avengers and how that changed him.

[kuronosan]

You know when he proved to everyone that he was more than a man in a suit? When he nearly died to save everyone in New York. We didn't need a whole fucking movie afterwards to prove that again. Misguided movie was misguided.

And without the suit what do you think would have happened?

[Pikarya]

http://screenrant.com/iron-man-3-ben...in-discussion/





False dreams, this is what I wanted to believe 6 months ago.

[ronin sparthos]

Troll successful.

Well played at that.

[Marootsoobutsu]

And without the suit what do you think would have happened?

I think we would have had a pretty "meh" movie with a fantastic personality in RDJ's Stark, and a fantastically boring hero in RDJ's Stark. He may be more than a man in a suit, but he is-- and should be-- incomplete without it. As Iron Man, he's a compelling hero. Yeah, part of it has to be with Tony out of the suit, and the first three did that well... I cared about the dialogue, and Tony's journey. I just didn't *CARE* about the villains in this one, so the journey didn't matter..

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The Mandarin as something of an ideologue, even a false one, was appealing. The Mandarin as Random Angry Guy Tony Screwed Fifteen Years Ago was just... flat. I think the poster who made the note that if it had been the woman scorned, it could have been more influential and meaningful; he a lot more meaningfully (and literally) screwed her. As is? Meh. I just didn't care. I knew Potts would live, I know Stark would win... that's the nature of these things. It's a villain you CARE about who brings a comic book movie from "This was fun" to "this was great", and I just didn't get that feel. I had it with Sir Kingsley, and then *poof*. Disappointment land.

[Gredival]

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I enjoyed it a lot, but I still felt let down. I don't mind the Mandarin plot twist in theory, but I felt that the character had been so compelling and powerful that discarding him felt like a waste. I know what they were going for when they wanted the thing to revolve around Killian, but it feels like there were other avenues they could have done other than make him comedy relief.

I was also disappointed with how little impact Warmachine had in the movie besides being a trojan horse. And weren't there override protocols to keep unauthorized users from suits? I mean that's why Cheadle couldn't hop in a new armor, so what happened to the safeties on Warmachine? I was under the impression that it had been coded only for Rhodes/

As far as people's disappointment about Extremis

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given that Tony could cure it from Pepper, I wouldn't doubt that Avengers 2 will be an Extremis armor that he builds after having figured the entire thing out while curing Pepper. And that would fit in with the whole not needing an Arc Reactor in his chest anymore.

[Serra]

Answering the Warmachine question:

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I was also disappointed with how little impact Warmachine had in the movie besides being a trojan horse. And weren't there override protocols to keep unauthorized users from suits? I mean that's why Cheadle couldn't hop in a new armor, so what happened to the safeties on Warmachine? I was under the impression that it had been coded only for Rhodes/

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I had that issue at first too, but then I remembered that they said AIM had something to do with redesigning it as the Iron Patriot, so I'm assuming they put in a way for them to hijack it. It seems odd that they'd go to a random think tank to handle one of the most advanced pieces of equipment they have rather than the guy who created it, but it does answer the question.

[Amiricle]

Answering the Warmachine question:

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I had that issue at first too, but then I remembered that they said AIM had something to do with redesigning it as the Iron Patriot, so I'm assuming they put in a way for them to hijack it. It seems odd that they'd go to a random think tank to handle one of the most advanced pieces of equipment they have rather than the guy who created it, but it does answer the question.

Not that odd actually. Can understand the military not wanting to be 100% reliant on 1 man for a weapon system that advanced.

[Tyrath]

Especially with how eccentric Stark is and how much he resisted ever giving them the machine in the first place. Can't say he has the best relations with the government.

[Serra]

Well, the random think tank part was the odd part to me.

I mean, AIM didn't seem like they were a think tank with military projects, so why did they receive the Iron Patriot contract?

[kuronosan]

Because they specialized in more than just biological agents.