Lights and menus and such.

[NynJa]

I've never seen an increase rate in a particular chest due to abyssite, just overall chest rate with fortune. I'm 100% sure the abyssites add a chance to receive a higher tier chest of that particular kind, and it's plainly obvious to see when tri-boxing mules who are missing the abyssite. But I've seen no evidence linking the abyssite to spawn rate. From my experience it doesn't affect their rate at all.

This, sorry, your Fortune abyssites arent causing you to get flooded with "FUCKING RED CHESTS". And seriously, if the red chests are such a problem, suck less and kill faster. Personally with brews being dropped to 200k, I like my red chests, they give us a chance to load up on silver lights so we can buy more brews.

Needs a "Favourite" Atma List

I think what would be better, since I'm sure SE's PS2 limitations wouldnt allow them to search for atma or to have a Favorite Atma list, would be to re-arrange the Atma Infusionist's dialog. Instead of how it's done now (Infuse Atma -> Page 1 -> Page 2 -> page 3 -> page 4 etc), they should change the dialog hierarchy to this:

                               Infuse Atma
-----------------------------------+----------------------------------------------------
LTP    Kon    Tah    Misar    Vunk     Atto    Altep    Grau    Uleg  Syn(V) Syn(S) Syn(H)
 |      |      |       |        |        |       |        |       |     |      |      |
atmas atmas  atmas   atmas    atmas    atmas    atmas   atmas   atmas  atmas  atmas  atmas
atmas atmas  atmas   atmas    atmas    atmas    atmas   atmas   atmas  atmas  atmas  atmas

While you'll still wind up with 10 pages, you wont have to hit "Next Page" 9 times to jump to Heroes Synthetics for example.

[Purrloin]

Not going to petition SE to fix something that doesn't exist, but wth, I'll support unbanning this Tsuko character.

[Massimo]

In my experience the red chest abyssite actually do increase % of drop rate of red chests. They obviously add something to your red count since if you have none of the red abyssites you can't proc red chests w/o red lights, unless my alt mule last night managed to spawn only blues/golds for 60minutes purely on luck.

u r rong

[Jeryhn]

I've never seen an increase rate in a particular chest due to abyssite, just overall chest rate with fortune. I'm 100% sure the abyssites add a chance to receive a higher tier chest of that particular kind, and it's plainly obvious to see when tri-boxing mules who are missing the abyssite. But I've seen no evidence linking the abyssite to spawn rate. From my experience it doesn't affect their rate at all.

This.

Fell Cleave isn't the only way to mass-farm gold chests.

[Hayguyz]

Atma Disposal/Rearrangement/Sets do fucking want; abyssites I can live with.

[Yugl]

I've never seen an increase rate in a particular chest due to abyssite, just overall chest rate with fortune. I'm 100% sure the abyssites add a chance to receive a higher tier chest of that particular kind, and it's plainly obvious to see when tri-boxing mules who are missing the abyssite. But I've seen no evidence linking the abyssite to spawn rate. From my experience it doesn't affect their rate at all.

My experience suggests otherwise, but I'm still going to agree with this. It simply wouldn't make sense because (And I am checking this now; my new internet is slow as hell) unless they plan to distribute one abyssite more than another, it would essentially mean they have an even chance of appear. In other words, the only benefit gained in the end would be the potency.

Edit: I've managed red boxes before I received my red abyssites.

[Shenrien]

god please D: it fucking sucks ruby killing something on accident and gaining additional reds off 1 when your low man for TE and all your getting is faint ebon lights...

[Zadimortis]

god please D: it fucking sucks ruby killing something on accident and gaining additional reds off 1 when your low man for TE and all your getting is faint ebon lights...

At that, has anyone found a use for Ebon lights? They seem absolutely useless; unless you're getting them first, you're capping on all the lights that matter very early on with Ephemerals (and in exp parties, they barely make any difference with exp/cruor).

[Kirschy]

At that, has anyone found a use for Ebon lights? They seem absolutely useless; unless you're getting them first, you're capping on all the lights that matter very early on with Ephemerals (and in exp parties, they barely make any difference with exp/cruor).

I've mentioned this before, but Ebon Lights do NOT add all lights.

[drwaffles]

I like how a thinly-disguised petition turned into super srs lights discussion.

[Kidnoftle]

u r rong

Musta been insanely lucky then .-.

[Malacite]

How about they just add more abyssite, preferably one for skill ups and one that prioritizes TE over other BLU chests? Or they could make it an Atma, since Atma are optional.

I agree that too much Red/Amber too early can totally fuck up a run, but even with capped Azure TE are still completely random. It'd be nice if we could influence this.

Gonna say it again too - keeping skills capped with the obscene rates we're EXPing at now is proving to be a serious pain in the ass. Please do something about this SE (NO NERFS!!! >_>)

[Yugl]

I like how a thinly-disguised petition turned into super srs lights discussion.

Nonsense, now lets get back to the REAL topic: Lights.

[NynJa]

Musta been insanely lucky then .-.

ding ding ding, we have a winner, LUCK!
Like when you cleave down 15 mobs with maxed lights, and load up 12 blue chests 2 gold and 1 red, but none pop as TE, and then the next pull you wind up with 2 blue chests, 7 gold, and 6 red...shits random, not much you can do.

[Jeryhn]

I've mentioned this before, but Ebon Lights do NOT add all lights.

I must've missed this, what is it you think they do?

[Kidnoftle]

Claiming that red chests aren't detrimental when they clearly are is kinda dumb :/ Theyre really only worth it for gold lights, your cruor point is invalid since you would max out cruor faster on 1k chests then upping cruor amounts to 100 a mob as opposed to 50 a mob and a 50/50 spread of blue/gold in which 1/5 are 1ks

[Kidnoftle]

I must've missed this, what is it you think they do?

just gold/silver

[Thorny]

I have all red chest abyssites, friend has none. In a 10-cleave sample(280 mobs each using something that doesn't produce ruby naturally), I got over twice the red boxes he did. While this isn't a huge sample, pretty sure it confirms my hypothesis.

FYI: I have 0 issues entering with 20 minutes and leaving 30 minutes later with 120, cleave or not. It just sucks going from 45:45:10 to 40:40:20 ... that's a loss of quite a bit regarding amber chests over the course of an empyrean(1/9). Being able to deactivate amber/ruby abyssites would save a fair bit of time with farming TEs as well, even if it's quick to begin with.

[Shenrien]

I've mentioned this before, but Ebon Lights do NOT add all lights.

I was in an EXP PT, and my lights were fresh and they kept opening ebon light, had no mages there to cap out my azure, eventually, Pearl(happens regardless) and Azure on my lights eventually hit cap, I think Ebon is there to Raise Pearl, Azure and Ruby, I can't really say much for Amber because the rate I always see giant gold boxes happens to be very minimal until reaching the 25-30 mark, but with the amount of Ebon probably required for that to happen, it should have happened regardless to see at least 1 Giant Gold box, so pretty sure can rule that out.

I honestly believe tho that Ebon in tiers (Faint, Strong, Intense) adds different lights with each tier, probably ruby, then pearl,ruby then finally pearl,ruby,azure.

[Foldypaws]

Re: Ebon lights not adding to all lights, they certainly add to amber as well. We can have 30+ amber lights (so definitely at cap) and only be getting mostly small gold boxes, with occaional big. As we get more and more ebon light, the ratio of big/small gold boxes goes way up.