Weapon Repairs

[jPuff]

For r30+ gear, anything less than 3k~5k is insultingly low to me (rare/annoying repair materials like whetstone, void glue, etc are another matter). You have to remember that you are paying a crafter for the time it took them to level a craft, not for the 2 seconds it takes to repair + material cost. I think this what a lot of people aren't understanding. Crafters aren't personal repair bitches. You are asking a favor of them when you seek a repair, and the reward you offer represents your gratitude and how much you actually care if your shit gets repaired. If someone is offering 1k to repair a lantern shield they must not want it repaired very badly.

And for the record, I can't repair all my own gear. I have to seek repairs just like everyone else, even as a crafter.

Very generally for r30+ stuff:

1k: never
2k: unlikely, unless I'm feeling nice and the material is 1.5k max
3k: if I'm positive I won't fail and the mat is cheap
5k: 90% of the time I will unless the mat is expensive, rare, or I don't have it
10k and up: I will drop whatever I'm doing

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

Repair npcs will charge 15-30k to repair gear to 75%(20ish gear). Why not throw 5k at crafters for repairing it to 100%? You're saving money and getting a better repair.

[Sign]

For repairs I usually offer the average cost of the repair material that will be used to make the repair. If have the mats on me, I will repair just about anything for any price. I don't need the money, and it isn't like there is a done to do in this game that the 1 minute it takes to make a repair will cost me. I also don't expect people to pay more than cost of mats because shit breaks entirely too fast in this game.

[Gulkeeva]

Here's an example bazaar of someones ring I wouldn't be repairing (notice the price they sell silver nugget for, and the repair mats for the ring)

http://www.neko-sentai.com/images8tu/goldsmithing.jpg

[Sign]

Here's an example bazaar of someones ring I wouldn't be repairing (notice the price they sell silver nugget for, and the repair mats for the ring)

I agree with you there. Unfortunately you can't fix stupid.

[miokomioko]

I know the skill gains are pretty minimal, but offering the gil that the repair material is generally worth is a realistic price. Unless the item is something ultra-high rank, there's no purpose for offering more than that considering there is no lack of players capable of repairing something low to medium rank. The reward for the repairer would be a free drip of skill and possibly gil if they manage to salvage their material. Offering 10k and up is only realistic for shit that requires a rank-40+ skill.

[Vimes]

Depending on the item, I usually put 10K for armorer repairs. 5-6K for weaver.
4-6K for rings/neck accessories & most weapons.

The reward is there for the effort, not just as a compensation for the mats.

Even for LS members I leave the gil reward on, can only help towards getting their crafts higher.

Gil is stupidly easy to get, putting 1K for repair is just retarded.

[arlee]

Here's an example bazaar of someones ring I wouldn't be repairing (notice the price they sell silver nugget for, and the repair mats for the ring)

LOL i saw this same exact person and was like , your selling nuggets for 2500 a pop and you are offering 1000 for the repair, I would of done it if the offer was the mat itself (the silver nugget)

just went on about my business didn;t bother to repair it

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

Repaired my weapon to 100% when I dinged 13 thaum. Got halfway through 14 and my weapon was at 49%. Can't expect parties to work very well with that kinda degrade rate.

[pingpong]

Honestly I didn't know where I should be pricing my repairs so I just put everything at 1k gil and it always gets repaired by somebody wanting to rank up (lvl 20-35 gear).

I don't have the time to look up how much an item costs and put it in my bazaar for every item, so I just put gil and hope the crafter has the mats.

Looks like in this thread people are saying if you don't have any mats and you want a repair for rk30+ wep you need 5k, yet I haven't really run into the problem since the december update that gives me the repair icon. People just repair for skillups and I always make sure to /bow and thank them. That's their reward lol >_>

My only problem, as with everyone else, is that repairs are needed too frequently. Needs to be doubled and then re-evaluated, perhaps even tripled but if you die take a 20% cut in durability automatically.

[Sephiroth]

I don't expect to be paid for the time it took me to rank up my craft, I expect to be paid for the time it takes me to repair plus the mat.

I'll happily repair any low item (silver/brass/iron/bronze) if I have the nugget for 2k, sometimes less if the player looks new. I understand new players don't have a tonne of gil.

Electrum is where it gets pricey. I can skill up for 300 SP on two of those nuggets so you're paying for that too. The mat itself is worth about 4k. So I won't touch the repair for under 7k. Since the skill can be nice I'll do it free if the mat is provided via trade.

[Vimes]

Honestly I didn't know where I should be pricing my repairs so I just put everything at 1k gil and it always gets repaired by somebody wanting to rank up (lvl 20-35 gear).

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Looks like in this thread people are saying if you don't have any mats and you want a repair for rk30+ wep you need 5k, yet I haven't really run into the problem since the december update that gives me the repair icon.

I'm not saying it's a problem or that people won't repair your shit if you put 1K. Maybe they will.

But look at the amount of Gil you get from Leves (+ treasure). Every reset. You easily get 5K from Behest. If you've been playing for a bit, you've got a few mil sitting in your pocket.

Does putting 1K for repairs still seem a fair reward? When you easily have (just a guesstimate) 4000x that amount in your pocket and continue to easily amass more of it without real effort. If people repair your stuff and you're fine with it, that's ok. Personally, I don't mind giving a little more as appreciation.

Repaired my weapon to 100% when I dinged 13 thaum. Got halfway through 14 and my weapon was at 49%. Can't expect parties to work very well with that kinda degrade rate.

My only problem, as with everyone else, is that repairs are needed too frequently.

Exactly, I can live with the frequency of armor/accessory repairs, but keeping up with weapon repairs is a bit of a pain right now.

[miokomioko]

Until you're asking for repairs for high rank crap that few people can even attempt, there's just too many low~mid-rank crafters capable of repairing an item to need to offer a competitive reward. I've never had a problem overnighting repairs for my rank-15~30 items by offering 1~3k tops. Especially when the repair item is something easily made and in dozens.

[Elona]

Few days back someone was shouting to get his Oak Composite Bow repaired, I went to check and reward was oak branch, so no thanks. When I need repairs outside ls, i usually put 5-10k for 30+, 15k for 40+ items when nightbazaaring. One jp in my server offers 200 wind shards for r42 fishing rod repairs + sells the repair material for it for 1k, that was good score.

[arlee]

cheapskates galore on my server offering 1k or tops 3k for R30+ items. I mean really you can't put down 5k for a item yet you running around in gear that +10 ranks till its optimal for you.

[Gleason]

I try to keep my own gear repaired, and as far as GLA weapons, at least, I've been keeping my smithing paced--barely. While I agree that offering 1k for repairs on higher rank items is a joke, I also think that the 200 wind shards reward mentioned by Elona is excessive.

Generally, I try to offer shards rewards, or perhaps a crystal or two. Since my Pine Crook needed beastkin blood and that's a pain, for example, I did offer 7k for that rank 18 weapon, but generally I'll toss something up with 30 earth shards for compensation (or whatever shard equivalent the required repair skill uses a lot of) and it gets fixed almost immediately.

[Dense]

I don't repair either for the skill-ups or the gil reward, I do it because I too need repairs for my weapons, and I know what it feels like to get a quick repair when you need it. It's a give/take thing, and it feels good to give.

I was offering r25 GLAD weapons as items in-lieu of gil compensation (currently going for 10-20k on my server - but I had surplus of them after ranking up on them for an hour or so) , and 4 times they were received with /tells afterwards thanking me for the weapons, and once with a /tell saying they wanted a gil reward instead, which I changed, and everyone was happy. I don't even look at the gil reward when doing repairs usually (although, truth be told, I am not using costly repair mats, as I'm a Carpenter, and usually branches [and now loads of Horn glue] are the repair mats)...

[arlee]

I try to keep my own gear repaired, and as far as GLA weapons, at least, I've been keeping my smithing paced--barely. While I agree that offering 1k for repairs on higher rank items is a joke, I also think that the 200 wind shards reward mentioned by Elona is excessive.

Generally, I try to offer shards rewards, or perhaps a crystal or two. Since my Pine Crook needed beastkin blood and that's a pain, for example, I did offer 7k for that rank 18 weapon, but generally I'll toss something up with 30 earth shards for compensation (or whatever shard equivalent the required repair skill uses a lot of) and it gets fixed almost immediately.

same i alternate between $$$ and shards/crystals, I'll throw up whatever shards/crystals I know that benefits the repairer (ie: if i need a armorer I'll throw up fire shards or earth crystals)

Usually its between 30-50 shards and 5-10 crystals

[arlee]

I don't repair either for the skill-ups or the gil reward, I do it because I too need repairs for my weapons, and I know what it feels like to get a quick repair when you need it. It's a give/take thing, and it feels good to give.

Hey same here I don;t mind helping out if I see your just starting out and you don't have alot of money or whatever but when I see dude running around in R45 gear meanwhile they are mid 20s low30s and they have items up in their bazaar up for repairs offering 1k or 2k. Well FU you got money to buy R40+ items your dumb ass shouldn't even be using yet and/or you like to play dress up and you can;t offer decent compensation to get your stuff repaired well then no thanks I'm not repairing his/her stuff.

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

Did a small test(more like I complained and someone in my ls did the test), and doing 2 aoe spells on thm @r25~ with the silver scepter results in 1% dura lost. Since I spam aoe like no tomorrow(who doesn't with leve/behest mobs always in a group? and spam aoe sac2?), my weapon degrades SUPER fast. Single target degrades much slower but still. Anyway, common knowledge for some people, but maybe not for others.