Late-December Version Update (12/20/2010)

[Drako]

If we need the item to search the system would be a huge fail ass piece of shit and would cause a mass outflow of anger from the community.

we have been angry before, i doubt this will change anything, they will just argue that the keyword search thing will come soon or something.

[Arximiro]

They can't afford to piss us off anymore, Tony Hawk Underground probably has more online players than the game at this point. -.-

[TacoTaru]

So am I reading this right and it only tell you the items in ward associated to that item you want and not across all wards? It's a start, and certainly a great one, but I tended to find a majority of what I wanted outside of its appropriate ward. :/

[Antithesis]

Just give me an AH and stop fucking around with me Q_Q.

 

[Arximiro]

I tend to find the majority of what I want using YG, which is a much better system then this shit. If you can only search the appropriate ward for things though hopefully that will be more of an incentive for people to sell only the correct things.

[Lucavi]

Are they going to prioritize the loading (spawn) time for vendors that come up in your search? Even if they have marks over their head, if they're spawning at the same time or late in a sea of others, its still going to be hard to find what you want.

Here's hoping they prioritize not only the loading time, but the targeting of these vendors.

[Balb]

Yea so I'm going to reserve my initial feelings about this being good, because it has huge potential for fail and rage lol...

Requiring possession of the item to search sounds most likely, unless the search provides predetermined menu lists (a la AH) that will only populate items that are currently up for sale across retainers. I can't think of any other way this could be done to avoid needing the item to search. oh boy...

[Manako]

I'm kinda miffed that mr new director has yet to post any information at this point. This is effectively the first thing that will be updated under his new direction, you think he'd want to step up and tell us what things are to come in the near future.

[Egon]

I think it's time someone started an FFXIV AH Petition. Add an AH or we are quitting!

[Corrderio]

I tend to find the majority of what I want using YG, which is a much better system then this shit. If you can only search the appropriate ward for things though hopefully that will be more of an incentive for people to sell only the correct things.

I've only been lucky so far on one instance with that sadly.

I think it's time someone started an FFXIV AH Petition. Add an AH or we are quitting!

If petitions only worked...

[Cichy]

Here I was hoping for content but I guess I must be amused by playing with a search function for next month or three...

[Spider-Dan]

I am utterly stunned that half the bitching in this thread is by players who are dismayed at the prospect of buyers being able to tell who is selling for the lowest price. WTF did you expect, listings with no prices? Were you hoping that maybe it was an unsortable price list that displayed sellers in random order? Because if the list is sortable, the first thing that any buyer is going to do is sort by price.

As for the actual update itself, a hearty meh is warranted. As I read it, the system has at least two major problems:

1) You can only search for items in the ward that they are supposed to be in
Unless SE wants to give every player a retainer for each ward, this will never work. I'm selling a bunch of different items of different types and my retainer can only be in one ward at a time.

2) Retainers carrying the specified item will be highlighted
Unless they are also prioritized to load first, this does virtually nothing. Anything in the Battlecraft Ward will still require the same tedious inching forward to load 10 retainers at a time.

[Lucavi]

2) Retainers carrying the specified item will be highlighted
Unless they are also prioritized to load first, this does virtually nothing. Anything in the Battlecraft Ward will still require the same tedious inching forward to load 10 retainers at a time.

Biggest thing I'm worried about. Why can't they design a system where you don't have to actually visit the vendor? Oh yeah, because that would be an auction house. Silly me.

[Antithesis]

Biggest thing I'm worried about. Why can't they design a system where you don't have to actually visit the vendor? Oh yeah, because that would be an auction house. Silly me.

You have to understand Lucavi, with the introduction of an Auction House, Final Fantasy XIV's unique selling & trading experience would dissolve. One of the few true milestones of this game would be taken out in favor of a system that copies from World of Warcraft (because Auction House's did not exist prior to this according to Square Enix [No seriously, they deny that there was an Auction House in Final Fantasy XI.]) They can't afford it. Final Fantasy XIV must be different. Because being different is always a bona fide good thing. Always.

Oh, wait...

[ZarakiKujata]

Square-Enix

Think different?

[Olo401]

I think it's time someone started an FFXIV AH Petition. Add an AH or we are quitting!

If only there were people left playing to care about signing a petition...

ftfy.. amidoinitrite?

[bruiser]

lol. maximum fail on this update. Item Search should have been the very first line item from the Novemeber update, and even after this update, it's still not solved. All you can do is see how many items of a certain type are in a ward. Still no actual searching. But hey, it'll happen at a later time right?

[Corrderio]

lol. maximum fail on this update. Item Search should have been the very first line item from the Novemeber update, and even after this update, it's still not solved. All you can do is see how many items of a certain type are in a ward. Still no actual searching. But hey, it'll happen at a later time right?

NPCs that have the item will be highlighted, but it still doesn't change the fact that wards are a horrible clusterfuck, so have fun trying to find the NPC with your item.

[kisada]

I am utterly stunned that half the bitching in this thread is by players who are dismayed at the prospect of buyers being able to tell who is selling for the lowest price. WTF did you expect, listings with no prices? Were you hoping that maybe it was an unsortable price list that displayed sellers in random order? Because if the list is sortable, the first thing that any buyer is going to do is sort by price.

As for the actual update itself, a hearty meh is warranted. As I read it, the system has at least two major problems:

1) You can only search for items in the ward that they are supposed to be in
Unless SE wants to give every player a retainer for each ward, this will never work. I'm selling a bunch of different items of different types and my retainer can only be in one ward at a time.

2) Retainers carrying the specified item will be highlighted
Unless they are also prioritized to load first, this does virtually nothing. Anything in the Battlecraft Ward will still require the same tedious inching forward to load 10 retainers at a time.

pretty much agree with everything here. also very baffled by the number of people who don't understand rudimentary economics

[Meko]

Where is the UI change? I'm not even worried with the retainer system because I'm holding out hope they do away with it...