Late-December Version Update (12/20/2010)

[Biggie]

Content?

Don't get me wrong search is nice and all but fairly pointless when there's nothing to strive for to get ahead in the game.

They could have, and should have, delayed the mid-december update a week and put everything in in one go.

Are you really doing this again?? WAIT for the patch news before you start bitching please.

[Katlan]

I'm kinda miffed that mr new director has yet to post any information at this point. This is effectively the first thing that will be updated under his new direction, you think he'd want to step up and tell us what things are to come in the near future.

I doubt it, he should have just taken over and these updates are from the previous directors. He may of had some input in them, but I doubt you will see anything "new direction" like until the new year updates.

[Lucavi]

You have to understand Lucavi, with the introduction of an Auction House, Final Fantasy XIV's unique selling & trading experience would dissolve. One of the few true milestones of this game would be taken out in favor of a system that copies from World of Warcraft (because Auction House's did not exist prior to this according to Square Enix [No seriously, they deny that there was an Auction House in Final Fantasy XI.]) They can't afford it. Final Fantasy XIV must be different. Because being different is always a bona fide good thing. Always.

Oh, wait...

FFXIV is different, though. Its a brand new MMO that's floundering in the water after being released to the world market all at one and simultaneously flopping in each region.

That's got to count for something!

Seriously though, a priority loading system would be the next best thing to an actual, functioning AH. Here's hoping we actually get one.

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

What a let down. Your stupid retainer system will keep players away from this game because an AH is just easier. Scrap your retarded retainer system already and give me an AH.

Edit: honestly think about the press and reviews of this game. One huge thing they'll always bring up is this "terrible system of buying items" that requires "a lot of time" to buy anything. Go AH or go home.

[Siatdiat]

When Stan Lee stepped down as editor in chief at Marvel, he asked that they not mess with Silver Surfer, his favorite character, without consulting him. Because of that the surfer didn't have anything really going on outside of a few cameo appearances and a one shot in 1981. It wouldn't be until 1987 that he let them have complete control of the character.

Moral of this weird ass story? I hope that the retainer and ward system isn't Tanaka's Silver Surfer.

[The Q]

Are you really doing this again?? WAIT for the patch news before you start bitching please.

Thanks for the cyberstalking bro. I'm totally not the only one in this boat.

I'll say what I want. Sorry you feel like crying like a bitch about it. If you don't like it there IS an ignore function. I suggest you use it.

[kisada]

i'm not terribly concerned with actually seeing him put his stamp on the december updates (as nice as it'd be to see them start early), but i really would like to see his outline and future plans.

the game, as it is, is ridiculously testing in terms of patience. someone mentioned in another thread that they basically log on for their gl's and they can't WAIT to log off once they're done. i feel the same way and i know i'm not the only one.

personally i'll deal with the garbage game and its updates (no matter how lacking) as long as there's something worth waiting for on the horizon. but if SE leaves us in the dark with only future promises and no time tables the player base's enthusiasm will continue to erode. for me, that enthusiasm is the only thing keeping me connected to the game, and i'd venture to say it's the same for just about everyone else who's displeased with 14.

[Arximiro]

Remake the FFXI AH but allow price history to scroll up to the last 50 sales and let us put up to 20 items on the AH. Add some shine to it to make it fancy and sleek and there you fucking have it. What is so hard about this FFS!?

[Kurokikaze]

Are you really doing this again?? WAIT for the patch news before you start bitching please.

I really think that level of stupidity should be an offense already. Fuckers bitching before the sauce. Get the update THEN bitch.

[ZarakiKujata]

Sorry you feel like crying like a bitch about it.

Ironic because isn't that what you are doing?????

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

Remake the FFXI AH but allow price history to scroll up to the last 50 sales and let us put up to 20 items on the AH. Add some shine to it to make it fancy and sleek and there you fucking have it. What is so hard about this FFS!?

Hell I was thinking just copy and paste the AH, but remove price history all together and add listed 'buy it now' prices for each item. This would just make prices more spread by word than set in stone. If you sell an item that currently is not for sale; you determine the price. If you sell an item that there are few up for sale already, yea there will be undercutting, but once those lower priced items are sold the higher ones will sell because people will be none the wiser without a price history to go by, or by word of mouth of others saying they could get it cheaper.

Keep the damn 7 item at a time only, or raise it to 10. This keeps people with a retainer selling crap in the wards if they have an over abundance of items while stuff on the AH sells for them. Or at least they could sell their items that differ by 'type' on the AH so that they could place their retainer in the right ward to sell stuff.

[Arximiro]

Buy it now would be acceptable, but the 7 limit bs has to go. It's especially retarded when you are selling materials that don't stack or really cheap items that you crafted and have a ton of. There is no point in having a sell limit, if people have shit to sell let them sell it. Since you have to have some limit probably to prevent the game from exploding just set it really high.

[The Q]

What's worse? People complaining or people who complain that people complain? lol

[ZarakiKujata]

I don't understand why some shit is still stacking to x12, some is x99 and some is x999. Why the fuck do I need to have 5 stacks of raptor sinew cords, 12 stacks of cotton bolls, flax, or fleece instead of just 1 stack that goes to x999 in my/my retainer's inventories.

[Arximiro]

It's like they want some semi-reality on inventory space, even though you can hold 100 suits of heavy armor on one character. They should really be innovative and make the inventory go up to 10,000 or some number you should never hit.

[Corrderio]

Hell I was thinking just copy and paste the AH, but remove price history all together and add listed 'buy it now' prices for each item. This would just make prices more spread by word than set in stone. If you sell an item that currently is not for sale; you determine the price. If you sell an item that there are few up for sale already, yea there will be undercutting, but once those lower priced items are sold the higher ones will sell because people will be none the wiser without a price history to go by, or by word of mouth of others saying they could get it cheaper.

Keep the damn 7 item at a time only, or raise it to 10. This keeps people with a retainer selling crap in the wards if they have an over abundance of items while stuff on the AH sells for them. Or at least they could sell their items that differ by 'type' on the AH so that they could place their retainer in the right ward to sell stuff.

I really don't think removing price history would do anything myself. Since if people wanted to try a fixed price they could look on YG/XIV Pro.

One of the main reasons undercutting happened was how the game decided the priority of who's item will get sold, which was by who had the lowest price set. Instead the priority should be which item was up first.

For example, lets say we both get an item that's priced around 100K, you sell your item at 100K and then later I try to undercut you by putting it at 99K. Someone buys the item we put up for 100K, however since you put yours up first yours would sell before mine. The only way my item could take priority over yours in this situation was if someone put a bid at under 100K.

Not a whole lot, but a step in the right direction IMO.

[ZarakiKujata]

It's like they want some semi-reality on inventory space, even though you can hold 100 suits of heavy armor on one character. They should really be innovative and make the inventory go up to 10,000 or some number you should never hit.

Seriously, carrying 100 thousand needles is as intensive on inventory as carrying 100 haubergeons. GG for realism SE.

[Izzy]

Hell I was thinking just copy and paste the AH, but remove price history all together and add listed 'buy it now' prices for each item. This would just make prices more spread by word than set in stone. If you sell an item that currently is not for sale; you determine the price. If you sell an item that there are few up for sale already, yea there will be undercutting, but once those lower priced items are sold the higher ones will sell because people will be none the wiser without a price history to go by, or by word of mouth of others saying they could get it cheaper.

Keep the damn 7 item at a time only, or raise it to 10. This keeps people with a retainer selling crap in the wards if they have an over abundance of items while stuff on the AH sells for them. Or at least they could sell their items that differ by 'type' on the AH so that they could place their retainer in the right ward to sell stuff.

You literally just explained WoW's AH, word for word lol.

No price history, buy it now pricing, shittons of AH space for stuff that doesn't stack.

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

lol funny thing is I've never played WoW.

[Riposte]

I tend to find the majority of what I want using YG, which is a much better system then this shit.

You do realize the addition of this will probably enhance YG tenfold right? As long as more people use the yg updater any time they search for an item, it will probably show up on the site. Also it is almost impossible for SE to make a system better than YG, because YG just incorporates anything they use.