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  1. #221
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    Aias Bonnet vs. Anwig Salade (Dex/Agi +4, WSD+2%, Crit hit damage +2%) for Jin?

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    Elemental belts raise fTP, which is different from TP bonus. Warwolf or Anguinus would be the way to go, maybe Cuch belt. Byakko's, Hachiryu, or Tumbler for legs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidian View Post
    I may be stupid but I don't think Elemental belts will do anything for Jin since it's a crit skill. All I can think of is Warwolf belt.
    The elemental belt will add FTP which will raise damage, not TP bonus which would increase chance of critical.

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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    Knew I was missing something.

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    THF mule with really shitty gear.

    Angr Harpe, X's Knife, Twilight Knife, Rapidus Sax.

    Which two to use?

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    Twilight + Rapidus I would think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jornna View Post
    Think Byakkos are still best to use for Jin but not 100% sure.
    They are

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    Bersail cap vs 4agi/2% ws dmg MKD head for blade:Hi?

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    Moonshade Earring with Atk+4/TP Bonus+25 vs. Other random WS earring (Bushi, Aesir, Brutal).
    For Tachi: Fudo.

    And by how much?

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    Upon returning to the game a couple of months ago, I've made reasonable strides in upgrading my good ol' MNK while still playing at a relatively casual pace. Old but not completely outdated posts like this have helped give me a general guideline as to what I should do with myself.

    Now, here's my current melee set:

    Weapon: Furor Cesti
    Ranged: Tantra Tathlum
    Head: Tantra Crown +1
    Neck: Chivalrous Chain
    Ear1: Brutal Earring
    Ear2: Kemas Earring
    Body: Shura Togi
    Hands: Ochiudo's Kote
    Ring1: Ulthalam's Ring
    Ring2: Rajas Ring
    Back: Forager's Mantle
    Waist: Black Belt
    Legs: Tantra Hose +2
    Feet: Usukane Sune-Ate

    Prior to the break, I sold a lot of my good equipment (anticipating prices would drop), which is why I am wearing a Chivalrous Chain, for example. I definitely don't regret what I did, as I certainly did profit, and despite gil's general uselessness, it's nice to be able to buy ninjutsu tools and such without worry. Regardless, I intend to obtain a Faith Torque (since the level cap raise and atmas have invalidated Peacock Charm's lead), and will continue defeating Xolotl in the hopes of obtaining a pair of Bandomusha (though I've never even seen a pair of Ochiudo's drop, nevermind Ochimusha, so I'm reserved). I also have a pair of Mantis on the Chesma stage, which I'll finish off by duoing with one of my roommates, and then it's off to complete my coin collection for Revenant Fists +2.

    Now, tell me if these are some other wise improvements (all considering Abyssea, where I have RR, GH, etc.):

    1. Switch Kemas with Aesir for TP.
    2. Continue pursuing Faith Torque rather than Agasaya.
    3. Replace Forager's Mantle with Aesir for TP, but continue to use Forager's for WS.

    Also, if you would, answer a few questions for me:

    4. At what level of augment quality does Kokugetsu Togi become worth wearing? From my understanding, it is basically a free substitute for a Juogi.
    5. When should I replace my Usukane Sune-Ate with something else?

    Any and all forms of advice will be welcomed.

    I also thought this may have been best posted in the "Post Pictures of Your Gear" thread, but I don't have a picture, so here it will stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohan View Post
    Upon returning to the game a couple of months ago, I've made reasonable strides in upgrading my good ol' MNK while still playing at a relatively casual pace. Old but not completely outdated posts like this have helped give me a general guideline as to what I should do with myself.

    Now, here's my current melee set:

    Weapon: Furor Cesti
    Ranged: Tantra Tathlum
    Head: Tantra Crown +1
    Neck: Chivalrous Chain
    Ear1: Brutal Earring
    Ear2: Kemas Earring
    Body: Shura Togi
    Hands: Ochiudo's Kote
    Ring1: Ulthalam's Ring
    Ring2: Rajas Ring
    Back: Forager's Mantle
    Waist: Black Belt
    Legs: Tantra Hose +2
    Feet: Usukane Sune-Ate

    Prior to the break, I sold a lot of my good equipment (anticipating prices would drop), which is why I am wearing a Chivalrous Chain, for example. I definitely don't regret what I did, as I certainly did profit, and despite gil's general uselessness, it's nice to be able to buy ninjutsu tools and such without worry. Regardless, I intend to obtain a Faith Torque (since the level cap raise and atmas have invalidated Peacock Charm's lead), and will continue defeating Xolotl in the hopes of obtaining a pair of Bandomusha (though I've never even seen a pair of Ochiudo's drop, nevermind Ochimusha, so I'm reserved). I also have a pair of Mantis on the Chesma stage, which I'll finish off by duoing with one of my roommates, and then it's off to complete my coin collection for Revenant Fists +2.

    Now, tell me if these are some other wise improvements (all considering Abyssea, where I have RR, GH, etc.):

    1. Switch Kemas with Aesir for TP.
    2. Continue pursuing Faith Torque rather than Agasaya.
    3. Replace Forager's Mantle with Aesir for TP, but continue to use Forager's for WS.

    Also, if you would, answer a few questions for me:

    4. At what level of augment quality does Kokugetsu Togi become worth wearing? From my understanding, it is basically a free substitute for a Juogi.
    5. When should I replace my Usukane Sune-Ate with something else?

    Any and all forms of advice will be welcomed.

    I also thought this may have been best posted in the "Post Pictures of Your Gear" thread, but I don't have a picture, so here it will stay.
    As far as Aesir and Faith Torque goes you're heading in the right direction. Asagaya's is certainly a great substitute for the time being, shouldn't be too hard being a MNK and all proc'ing blue and all that jazz. I'm sure you know how good victory smite is. Um, this http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Atheling_Mantle would do you good. Guaranteed drop and if you find some people that kill Orthrus on a regular basis for AF3 +2 I'm sure they would let you leech one, thats how I got mine anyways. I am kind of on the fence about whats better as far as body pieces go. I would think that the Loki's Kaftan is better just because with usu feet + rajas + loki's allows you to TP faster. Then there is the Tantra body +2 and its beefy stats but it lacks store TP. I would say the Loki's would definitely win though.

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    I'm working on Maschu +2 (WoE is the stingiest crap ever.) In the mean time I've been looking at other GAXs to do. Sumera +2 has 111 damage 488 delay +13 STP. So that got me thinking math wise you can hit 20 TP per hit on /Nin. Would I be better off using Sumera +2 with raging rush or is Ukko's + the extra base damage just that damn good?

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    Ukko's is just that damn good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colenzo View Post
    Um, this http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Atheling_Mantle would do you good. Guaranteed drop and if you find some people that kill Orthrus on a regular basis for AF3 +2 I'm sure they would let you leech one, thats how I got mine anyways.
    My friends and I plan on killing Orthrus repeatedly ourselves (since it can be easily low-manned, and that's what we do), and I will confess, I never even thought of looking at the back piece it drops. However, I have seen it mentioned here on BG, and now I realize I should've looked into it sooner. I'll definitely go for one of those.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colenzo
    I am kind of on the fence about whats better as far as body pieces go. I would think that the Loki's Kaftan is better just because with usu feet + rajas + loki's allows you to TP faster. Then there is the Tantra body +2 and its beefy stats but it lacks store TP. I would say the Loki's would definitely win though.
    Looks like I just may start hunting Turul, too.

    I would still like to know, though, at what level of augments a Kokugetsu becomes worth wearing. I'm skeptical of it since there are so many other body pieces with crit+ (like Loki's), so I'm wondering if there is a specific desirable combination. FFXIclopedia is naturally scant on details, and surfing through the media threads has taught me more about mage bodies than far east jobs' armor.

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    For Dancer, would would be better tp gain/dps? AF3 body (10%DW) or Lokis Kaftan. Assuming with capped haste already, AoA, GH, RR and af3 neck(5% dw) and suppa. I do .not. get marches, our group doesn't have a bard, just haste.

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    the AF3 body

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    What recommend BST atma for Yuly tank?

    and

    What Atma for WAR with Widowmaker DA build? RR+VV+ and?

    Thanks,

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    Apoc or alpha and the omega I would say for WAR

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    DRG: Lancer's Mantle v Atheling Mantle.

    Relevant information:
    - OAT Lance
    - 5% DA in gear
    - I use VV atma for X-hit, so I gain 5% DA from that
    - 25% Haste prior to the extra percentage of haste
    - 461 Base ATT + 31 ATT in gear + 14 STR in gear and merits (10.5 ATT) = Roughly 502 ATT total

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    Meh, just stick with the DRG back piece so you can stay at true haste cap.

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