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    Pole grip or brave grip if ws set alrdy @35+ dbl atk. . . moar dbl? war job
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Has anyone tested if /SAM gets Hassanshins?
    I'd assume no since update notes specifically said main job Samurai iirc.

    Anyone checked out seigan/counter? My really quick test before I went to work the other day didn't look promising.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Well, all it really means is that Hassanshins with 4/5 Ikishoten shaves two attacks. There's still one merit level left for Blade Bash.
    It really depends.

    You can:

    1. Use

    Masa/sword/x/White
    Zelus/af3/af3/brutal
    af3/dusk/rajas/hoard
    tactical/bullwhip/af3/ace

    and 10sTP merits for 6hit build that become 3hit if zanshin proc.

    or use

    Masa/sword/x/Thew
    Zelus/af3/af3/brutal
    af3/dusk/rajas/Pyrosoul
    Atheling/bullwhip/af3/ace

    with 5/5 zanshin merits for 6hit build which becomes 4hit with zanshin proc and requires only 4/5 Ikishoten

    or

    Use
    Masa/rose/x/White
    Zelus/af3/af3/brutal
    af3/dusk/rajas/hoard
    Tactical/bullwhip/af3/ace

    and WS in
    Masa/rose/x/Thew
    Twilight/gorget/str/brutal
    af3/heafoc/rajas/pyro
    atheling/ele/af3/af3

    and 10sTP merits
    for 5hit build that becomes 3hit build with zanshin proc and 4/5 Ikishoten.
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    I know its not always going to be true, but since were assuming one would go for the Hassanshin procs cant it be safe to assume we'd be talking about situations where one would be riding hasso fulltime? If thats the case why use Zelus since you could cap haste from the enhances hasso on the af3 legs.
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    For whatever reason, Unkai Haidate +2's enhancement is magic haste.
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    Haste bonus on pants doesn't count as gear haste. I don't recall if it was determined to be JA haste or magic haste. Testing was shortly after they were released.

    edit: Beaten!
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    They have been adjusted to not affect recast since then and could have been changed to gear haste, but it'd be hard to test now.
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    Testing needs to be done on Unkai back and Ace's hands to really determine what's best. SAM is hard to do exact TP builds. Meditate, conserve TP, zanshin, sekki etc. White damage with Masa isn't that bad either which is why a 6hit can make a lot of sense.

    6hit with Hasso up
    5hit with Hasso down
    ??? With seigan up.

    Counter rate during seigan seems very low and it still isn't determined what af3 head does for seigan.

    Konzen is a pretty sweet JA as well.
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    If they don't affect recast, then they aren't likely gear Haste. Maybe it's JA Haste now?

    If you have them, do you mind testing Hasso'd Reraise with and without the pants?

    I know I've linked this like a billion times, but here are the mechanics behind Konzen I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    If you have them, do you mind testing Hasso'd Reraise with and without the pants?
    I think.
    1:26 Recast with pants
    1:30 without pants
    1:24 with 6% haste head (and no pants)
    1:23 with 7% haste waist (and no pants)
    1:26 with 4% haste hands(and no pants)

    Gotta be JA haste.
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    Thanks!
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    For Dnc Evis.
    Agasaya's Collar or Shifting Necklace?
    Thanks
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    Would Moonshade Earring with TP Bonus +25 and ATK+4 be better than Centaurus Earring or Auster's Pearl for HI?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    Testing needs to be done on Unkai back and Ace's hands to really determine what's best. SAM is hard to do exact TP builds. Meditate, conserve TP, zanshin, sekki etc. White damage with Masa isn't that bad either which is why a 6hit can make a lot of sense.

    6hit with Hasso up
    5hit with Hasso down
    ??? With seigan up.

    Counter rate during seigan seems very low and it still isn't determined what af3 head does for seigan.

    Konzen is a pretty sweet JA as well.
    Pretty sure af3 head allows seigan to counter without thirdeye being up and yah I totally spaced on ja haste and not gear haste I still despise using zelus on samurai
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    Almace or Masamune? Well, I guess that's not a fair way to phrase this. Which weapon improves or strengthens their respective job more? I'm assuming Almace does more for Blue Mage than Masamune would do for Samurai, but I don't know anyone with a Masamune to pester details out of.
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    Almace does more for BLU inside.
    Masamune will do more for SAM outside.
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    Now, this is going to be a weird one, but I'd reckon a Ryunohige drg is the best DD in the game, given that level 90 ryu gives +25% drakes damage, which already competes with a lot of empyrean WSs.
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