What's Better?

[Deader2818]

I think once you have af3+2 legs it breaks full usu.

[Kamil]

For nin: RR/GH/Apoc or RR/Apoc/VV?

[TransparentMind]

Spare some pity for an old fool?

I just came back to FFXI after 10 months off so I'm completely lost with all the new stuff that's come out with abyssea.

For the most part I've come to realize almost all of my gear as been replaced (mostly by AF3 so that's easy) and what I'm having trouble with is just the vast amount of weapons that seem to have been added with the magian trials and new NMs.

I'm just looking for someone that can tell me off the top of their head what the general best/most suitable weapon(s) I should shoot for are (non-relic, empyrean, or mythic of course) for the following jobs:

BLU, RNG, NIN, DRK, SAM, MNK, THF

Most interested in THF and RNG.

Any help is much appreciated. I feel so lost.

[Nightfyre]

For nin: RR/GH/Apoc or RR/Apoc/VV?

RR/GH/Apoc

[Raen Ryong]

http://www.guildwork.com/ffxi/odin/k...ets/thfnin-tp/

I'd have to say neither.

Atheling > Belenos' unless struggling for acc. It's too late for me to want to math out the set bonus vs other stuff but I don't know...

[Fluid]

WS Damage Sumeru +2 or Warlord's Axe?

111DMG WSdmg+10% vs. 118DMG

[Wolfshadow]

Iga Dochugappa or Atheling Mantle for TP and WS

[Foldypaws]

WS Damage Sumeru +2 or Warlord's Axe?

111DMG WSdmg+10% vs. 118DMG

Widowmaker >_>. That said, WS Damage.

[Argdar]

For a Blu with Almace, what's the best offhand? OA2-4 Khanda or DA+10 Khanda? Or something else?

[Nightfyre]

Iga Dochugappa or Atheling Mantle for TP and WS

Atheling for both unless pDIF capped.

For a Blu with Almace, what's the best offhand? OA2-4 Khanda or DA+10 Khanda? Or something else?

STR and DA swords perform almost identically for melee damage. Given that there's an additional spell component involved, STR is probably your best bet. DEX if you need accuracy obviously.

[Hitoseijuro]

For BP rages on summoner, landing the pacts, is it better to wear...

physical:
Caller's +2 horn/karura, Summoner's bracers+1, redingote with atk/acc, tatsumaki with +7 atk, summoner's pigaches +1


versus

the entire caller's +2 set for it's supposed damage modifier on blood boon?


edit: magical pacts would be best in callers+2 set

The body+2 adds 10% damage to your BPs so you are going to want to wear that over the redingote. Attack does very little for smn BPs outside of probably Sac Torque and relic feet. Unless your acc is horrible on smn and you need to use smn bracers+1/evokers spats, Id probably use the full set for the 10% chance of getting the boost. Either way you dont really have too many options on smn sadly. I wish they added more to the caller set.

Hands/feet/legs only help our magical BPs, some crit rate + , DA + other stats would of been nice to have added in. Then again I feel the -10bp delay on staves should of pushed passed the cap just to spice things up a bit.

[Villian]

About to hit 50 gems soon, Caladbolg vs Masamune?

[Alkimi]

Tricky one, I've heard that Torcleaver will perform better than Fudo but not sure how easy Caldbolg will be to 5-hit, if at all.

[Byrthnoth]

Masamune is a better weapon (STR mod, lower fTP, but 5-hit), but Torcleaver is the only thing that will make DRK competitive against non-Empyreal DDs.

[Nameless]

Masamune isn't the better weapon, SAM is just the better job for now. It is close to impossible for Caladbolg to 5 hit, you will even have a hard time 6 hitting it outside abyssea. However, that's the short coming of the DRK job, not the weapon (if you want to say 528 delay scythe can 5 hit easily, I can tell you 5 hit 528 delay is pretty much the same WS frequency as 6 hit 430 delay). SAMs can 5 hit almost everything with similar delay, so its really nothing special of the weapon in that aspect. If SAM can pick caladbolg or masamune, I am pretty sure they will go with caladbolg with its superior WS and base damage. Caladbolg also improves DRK much more than Masamune improves SAM. Amano lvl 90 can put up similar WS damage, it just can't keep up with the ODD. Nothing that DRK can use aside from Caladbolg will have similar WS output. In the end it all depends on which job you like the most.

[GoggleHead]

Nuke set at 65: http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/189566

Would I be better of with an Elemental Torque instead?

[Byrthnoth]

Masamune isn't the better weapon, SAM is just the better job for now. It is close to impossible for Caladbolg to 5 hit, you will even have a hard time 6 hitting it outside abyssea. However, that's the short coming of the DRK job, not the weapon (if you want to say 528 delay scythe can 5 hit easily, I can tell you 5 hit 528 delay is pretty much the same WS frequency as 6 hit 430 delay). SAMs can 5 hit almost everything with similar delay, so its really nothing special of the weapon in that aspect. If SAM can pick caladbolg or masamune, I am pretty sure they will go with caladbolg with its superior WS and base damage. Caladbolg also improves DRK much more than Masamune improves SAM. Amano lvl 90 can put up similar WS damage, it just can't keep up with the ODD. Nothing that DRK can use aside from Caladbolg will have similar WS output. In the end it all depends on which job you like the most.

Well, that's pretty much exactly what I said. These weapons are pretty job specific. Masamune SAM vs. Torcleaver DRK isn't a competition, because SAM 5-hits and DRK gets a bunch of joke JAs and spells.

Torcleaver's fTP is impressive, but the VIT mod sucks. There isn't a competitive amount of high-VIT gear compared to STR. It isn't like DRK can be a Genbot! Hell, there isn't even any VIT on your AF3+2. Also, outside Abyssea (where fSTR matters again), you'll have to value two things instead of just whoring one stat, which is less efficient. 60% VIT/25% STR is less attractive than 85% STR.

[Shalafi]

Unless your acc is horrible on smn and you need to use smn bracers+1/evokers spats.

Caller's Bracers have avatar acc on them as well.

[Nameless]

Well, that's pretty much exactly what I said. These weapons are pretty job specific. Masamune SAM vs. Torcleaver DRK isn't a competition, because SAM 5-hits and DRK gets a bunch of joke JAs and spells.

Torcleaver's fTP is impressive, but the VIT mod sucks. There isn't a competitive amount of high-VIT gear compared to STR. It isn't like DRK can be a Genbot! Hell, there isn't even any VIT on your AF3+2. Also, outside Abyssea (where fSTR matters again), you'll have to value two things instead of just whoring one stat, which is less efficient. 60% VIT/25% STR is less attractive than 85% STR.

The STR and VIT mod of your statement is overstating. You are not going to whore one stat as a Fudo sam in STR. Yes, STR gives you attack, but you are not going to gear fully towards STR, just as we are not going to gear fully towards VIT. Attack is still the most important part for those two WSs. In abyssea, the difference will be greater because you are gaining alot of STR from atma and cruor buff. But outside abyssea the difference is really minor in term of modifier.

As for DRK vs SAM, I don't think we need to talk about it to know SAM > DRK, I think I pretty much said the same thing. Caladbolg does improve DRK way more than Masamune improves SAM, and that's solely from weapon upgrade. So unless you just want to play the best job, which in this case, you should probably go with either WAR or MNK in abyssea, you should go with what job you like and what adds more to your job. 5 hitting is not a Masamune specific thing, Fudo quality WS is not a Masamune specific thing (as previously stated, Kaiten is pretty much the same damage at 100%), Torcleaver quality WS however, is a Caladbolg specific thing for DRK.

[Cream Soda]

Lol, should I do 6hit massamune (no rose strap, never touching campaign, 11 ranks behind, etc), or Armageddon(on the flipside, I don't think I've fired a single bullet on cor, lol)?

I don't rly use either job, but I'm bored and this is about the only thing to do until next update. I'd do Ukon but I'm done w/ Tahrongi, fuck that noise.