What's Better?

[jimbobsonofgod]

For wildfire Mirke with 4 mab + QD-5 vs loki's ?

[Niiro]

Thanks for the response. I know this is kind of the auto-response for anything fast cast related, but I'm not sure if it applies to this situation. If I do as you say and use the +5 Fast cast helm, but swap it out for haste at the end of the cast, the recast time will be reduced to:
120*(1-0.085)*(1-0.25)=82.35
which is longer than two of the set ups I mentioned earlier. I assume the result would be the same for spells like Uts. Ni.
Is the two second difference in recast worth missing out on a 2% reduction in cast time? I'm beginning to think that it doesn't matter much either way. 2% of 4 seconds (the cast time for Ichi spells) is so small it might never make a difference, and 2 seconds off the recast could easily go to waste if you don't have the menu opened waiting for the spell to come up.

Look at your numbers again.

83 is usually more than 82.

Actually, I'm fairly sure it always is.

Start casting in Fast Cast hat, and switch to your haste piece before the spell finishes.

Also the necklace has no effect on recast, it reduces spellcasting time only.

[Kuishen]

Atheling Mantle vs. Cavaros Mantle for Evis? (Cavaros puts me at 49% crit damage)

Same question for SA and TA.

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EDIT: Typo, don't know where I was getting an extra 3% from but Cavaros puts me at 46%, not 49.

[zagex]

For wildfire Mirke with 4 mab + QD-5 vs loki's ?

It'll depend on your gear and SJ.
If you have the best gear, Loki's will be better during /rdm and /blm, but Mirke will be better during non-mage SJ. However, the difference should be in the single digits.

[TSFFXI]

Look at your numbers again.

83 is usually more than 82.

Actually, I'm fairly sure it always is.

Also the necklace has no effect on recast, it reduces spellcasting time only.

The suggested solution beats the 22 Fast cast and 22% haste, but falls short of the 22 fast cast and 23% haste as well as the 20 fast cast 25% haste combinations. That's what I meant when I said it lost to two of the set ups I mentioned earlier.

When I referenced a necklace, I was referring to a Tiercel Necklace, not the Magoraga bead necklace (which only affects utsesumi, not all ninjutsu--specifically migawari). Sorry, I should have been more clear.

Edit: Sorry for so many posts about this. I found a thread by Kirschy (http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/616...er-haste-stuff) which makes it clear that I calculated the values incorrectly both times. My understanding of it now is that haste is applied first and you round to the tenths place after each step in the calculation.
22 FC + 23% haste gives 82.2 -- this is with the +5 Fast Cast helm equipped throughout casting
20 FC + 25% haste gives 81 -- this is with the +3 Fastcast/Haste helm equipped throughout casting
17 FC + 25% haste gives 82.3 -- this is presumably with the +5 Fast Cast helm equipped only at the start of casting

My original question is a few posts back now, so I'll to try to clarify what I was asking. Apparently I speak a very wooden form of english while online.
Given the values above -- which are based on the recast of Migawari: Ichi (and which I now believe to be correct), is the best combination of augments for the ninja MKD helm [Haste +3, Fast Cast +3]? The obvious disadvantage is that you lose 2 Fast Cast points. Unless I'm mistaken, 2 fast cast is equivalent to a .08 second casting reduction for ichi level spells.
Although I only calculated values for migawari, I see no reason why the results (in terms of relative recast) would not be the same for other spells.

[CrosisX]

For Ranged Attacks on corsair: Navarch's Culottes +2 or Entois Trousers

[Hitoseijuro]

What's better for a 5-hit Fudo Sam:

25% Haste (Using Bustle Dirs), but having to use Carbonara to maintain the 5-hit?

Or

22% Haste (Plus Haste Bonus to Hasso from Unkai Haidate +1) and being able to use Red Curry Buns?

Provided that your magic haste is not capped, the 2nd option is better.

[TybudX]

Or you have your macro switch from a snapshot body into lokis midshot. That way you get the benefit of both snapshot and crit damage

Can anybody confirm that this actually works? With links to testing or some such? It seems to stupid to be true.

[Greatguardian]

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EDIT: Typo, don't know where I was getting an extra 3% from but Cavaros puts me at 46%, not 49.

Atheling Mantle and Qirmiz Tathlum (or Loki's, whichever you aren't using to have only 46% crit damage) should win out I think? I don't know Thf options too well so I may be missing something. RR (30) + Trait (8 ) + Loki's (5) + QT (5) = 48% and leaves your back slot open.

[Kuishen]

Atheling Mantle and Qirmiz Tathlum (or Loki's, whichever you aren't using to have only 46% crit damage) should win out I think? I don't know Thf options too well so I may be missing something. RR (30) + Trait (8 ) + Loki's (5) + QT (5) = 48% and leaves your back slot open.

Using Raider's Boomerang, have no idea if that'd be better than using tathlum. Was never told anything on the subject or read anything.

[Konda]

It'll depend on your gear and SJ.
If you have the best gear, Loki's will be better during /rdm and /blm, but Mirke will be better during non-mage SJ. However, the difference should be in the single digits.

Is there a sort of rule of thumb such as +X MAB > +Y AGI? I'd kinda assume MAB is better in abyssea, depending on atmas...
do the same numbers apply for Leaden Salute?


Edit: also, what's better for quickdraw? Mix/match set with mirke, AF hat, Schutzen or full Af3+2?

[zagex]

Question
How does the cruor mp buff affect Ugly pendant? Is it just <51% of my displayed max mp? Or are there shenanigans similar to Sorcerer's Ring?

Is there a sort of rule of thumb such as +X MAB > +Y AGI? I'd kinda assume MAB is better in abyssea, depending on atmas...
do the same numbers apply for Leaden Salute?

Short answer: Assuming no Hell's Guardian atma
7 AGI will always be better than 3 MAB
6 AGI is close to 4 MAB, if you have good gear

Slightly longer answer
The 7 agi vs 3 mab comparison is relevant because of the following gear:
Ambusher's hose vs denali kecks
Sveltesse gouriz vs aquiline belt
7 agi rings vs 3 MAB demon rings

I made an excel sheet to calculate damage based on the given formula buried somewhere in a thread a while back. In general, the ideal set I found is: http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/183265

However, Mirke should do better than Loki's by <5 dmg (~0.1%), assuming you don't have MAB trait from SJ. Loki's wins if you do. Unfortunately, I haven't gotten around to actually verifying this. I'm lazy and also it didn't occur to me that Loki's could beat Mirke until I punched the numbers into the excel sheet after someone brought it up in this thread.

Even longer answer
The problem with trying to figure out a "rule of thumb" for comparing MAB and AGI is MAB becomes worse and worse the more you have. Also, there isn't all that much MAB gear that you need to make these comparisons. The only slots that you might question are the 4 slots I mentioned with 7 AGI vs 3 MAB comparisons and your body piece.

So if you have PW's atma, then Hell's guardian, ultimate, and (Smoldering sky or lone wolf) is going to be the best atma set. However, the MAB - AGI comparison is going to be different than someone without hell's guardian. If you do have hell's guardian, the previous 6 AGI vs 4 MAB is definitely wrong, and is your problem unless somehow I get that title/atma.

More realistically, most people don't have hell's guardian, but someone could be favoring MAB over agi because they don't have the agi pieces. Putting agi in those slots is better for wildfire, but takes up more inv space since MAB works for quick draw and is "ok" for wildfire in those slots.

Edit: also, what's better for quickdraw? Mix/match set with mirke, AF hat, Schutzen or full Af3+2?

I haven't seen any testing for the procrate of the AF3+2 set bonus. Personally I use Mirke + AF3+2 everywhere else. The -5s recast is too good to pass up imo.

[Konda]

Hell's guardian isnt too realisitc for most people. I don't have it and I doubt I ever will.
Having Kannagi, I have most/all of the best AGI equips available for a slot since the crossover uses mean I don't mind splashing out so much on things like Stormsoul ring.
I'll have to a bit testing when I get Wildfire, and make more than 1 gear set depending on buffs etc.

btw, your link doesnt work as it's not the "public" address for the gearset

[Guitarman]

Using Raider's Boomerang, have no idea if that'd be better than using tathlum. Was never told anything on the subject or read anything.

raiders.

varangian helm or aias bonnet for :hi ? Or is there an even better option i'm not thinking of?

[Clash Perez]

raiders.

varangian helm or aias bonnet for :hi ? Or is there an even better option i'm not thinking of?

Bersail gets thrown around, assuming you've got capped fSTR and sufficient ATT.

[Konda]

Mkd head, af+1 head if enough attack etc

[mcb]

Alcide's harness +1 vs loki tp/ws

[diasetsu]

btw, your link doesnt work as it's not the "public" address for the gearset

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/183265

[Foldypaws]

For what job?

in general, loki's as from what I hear, even the +1 is only 3% crit damage, and if the sTP shaves off an attack round, it's going to win even more.

For WS, depends on the WS, probably still loki's

[mcb]

For what job?

in general, loki's as from what I hear, even the +1 is only 3% crit damage, and if the sTP shaves off an attack round, it's going to win even more.

For WS, depends on the WS, probably still loki's

was thinking thf mnk nin (no emp yet but nin is close and mnk is coming).