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    Recently started nin back up after several years of doing rdm and blm so want to do it right.
    Question one, what is currently the overall best ring combo for TPing in? Rajas/Epona? Heed/Epona? Or something else? Dropped tamas for rajas(second time dropping so 27 day wait to get rajas back again).
    I guess question two would be overall what a good WS set? Working on empy and hope to finish at end of the month.
    Thank you in advance for the help.

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    Rajas/epona's for tp. As far as ws sets go inside of abyssea just cap att and stack wsc mods as high as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abazaba View Post
    Just curious what would be better for a fudo build. Twilight Mail or byrnie +1. Tyty
    Mail with berk up byrnie+1 when its down.

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    Drone Earring or Centaurus Earring for Blade: Hi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamil View Post
    Drone Earring or Centaurus Earring for Blade: Hi?
    Unless you were trying to keep Hp low for migawari I'd use Pennon+1 over drone for any situation needing the former*. Better wind resist pieces exist if that's ever an actual goal in any situation

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    Drone costs a fraction of Pennon +1 (not to mention it actually exists) and the HP+ is kind of irrelevant given that you're wearing it for ~2 seconds. Either way, answer is Centaurus unless pDIF capped.

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    eep, last seen on night's server over a year ago and over a week ago on mine. fair enough > <

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    You can get a new +4 agi earring from synergy. I forget the name, but it's probably auster +1. Find a good synergist.

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    Sylvan Caban +1 or Osode for Sidewinder? Also, I just obtained a Clearview Earring....currently using Wilhelm/Altdorf for shooting and two Triumph earrings for Sidewinder....I know these are less than stellar items, but what's a good combo for shooting and WS now? Aside from the obvious +2 upgrade or the +3/4 STR earring, I'd like to revamp my shit a bit.

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    Caban+1 should win with V shot up.

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    Caban+1 should win all the time, as far as your average damage goes. +14 r.acc on a WS that takes a pretty big r.acc penalty vs +0.5 and +0.32 WSC, +.5 fstr if you aren't capped, and 1 r.att.

    Also, wouldn't Wildorf earrings be better than double Triumph for sidewinder anyways? Always +2 WSC and 4 r.acc vs +0.64 WSC, +1 fstr if you aren't capped, and 2 r.att. Two +4 STR earrings would be much more competitive, though.

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    Not sure about the earrings to be honest. I think once upon a time someone told me the AGI earrings for Slug Shot and STR earrings for Sidewinder....like I said, I really have no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firedemon View Post
    Not sure about the earrings to be honest. I think once upon a time someone told me the AGI earrings for Slug Shot and STR earrings for Sidewinder....like I said, I really have no idea.
    That was probably pre-Wildorf earrings, let alone pre-abyseea, vulcan's earring and pearl. If you're just comparing 2xDrone vs 2xTriumph and you're somewhat guaranteed to not hit fSTR cap (Which was basically the standard conditions before level cap raise), then Triumph wins on Sidewinder (+1.64 total base D vs +1.5) and Drone wins on Slugshot (+1 fstr vs +1.8 WSC). But in abyssea you have to consider that you may be fSTR capped, so what was once effectively a 41% mod is now a 16% mod after a certain point, whereas AGI stays a 25% mod no matter what.

    For Sidewinder, if you aren't fSTR capped: 3STR ~ 5AGI; if you are fSTR capped: 5STR ~ 3AGI.
    For Slug Shot, if you aren't fSTR capped: 6 STR = 5 AGI; if you are fSTR capped: STR is only good for r.att

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    honestly ranged ws tp mods are pretty shit. marksmanship mods are agi only, while archery is a mix of str and agi. for example, slug shot is a 30% AGI mod, whereas sidewinder is 12% str, 25% agi. compare that with ukko's fury, which has a 60% str mod, or the y/g/k gkt ws, which are 75% mod.

    like hobo said, the set earrings are gonna be better than triumphs, while the vulcan's pearls x2 would be more competitive. of course, a lot of it is gonna be dependent on atmas as well.

    edit: beaten, and pwned by math.

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    Ok, thanks for all that, I appreciate it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDirtyHobo View Post
    Caban+1 should win all the time, as far as your average damage goes. +14 r.acc on a WS that takes a pretty big r.acc penalty vs +0.5 and +0.32 WSC, +.5 fstr if you aren't capped, and 1 r.att.

    Also, wouldn't Wildorf earrings be better than double Triumph for sidewinder anyways? Always +2 WSC and 4 r.acc vs +0.64 WSC, +1 fstr if you aren't capped, and 2 r.att. Two +4 STR earrings would be much more competitive, though.
    +2 fSTR2*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightfyre View Post
    +2 fSTR2*
    Bah, that's right, RA uses a different fSTR formula. IIRC, fSTR2 will cap at 16 more dSTR that fSTR of a same-rank melee weapon will, but it caps ~2x as high since its divided by 2 instead of 4?

    Doesn't this make STR a better mod if you aren't capped even for WSes like Slug Shot that don't have a real STR mod? I mean, it's essentially 50% mod.

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    for CDC RDM whats better:
    Symbios Gloves -4 str +4dex -4 agil +5 blu skill vs Tarasque Mitts +1 6 chr +12 att Assuming att and acc and just about everything else isnt capped outside abyssea?
    (inb4 those saying use AF/AF+1 gloves NO!)
    And for bodies Looking like Antares Harness is the clear winner but what's next.
    (Once again assuming that acc and att isn't capped outside abyssea)
    Assault Jerkin 3 acc +18 att vs Pahluwan Khazagand 10 acc Increase chance of crits

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tortalius View Post
    You can get a new +4 agi earring from synergy. I forget the name, but it's probably auster +1. Find a good synergist.
    Or you can camp Wilhelm/Altdorf to get 8 AGI in your ears for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbobsonofgod View Post
    Assault Jerkin 3 acc +18 att vs Pahluwan Khazagand 10 acc Increase chance of crits
    i've gotten better, and more consistent, results using assault jerkin.

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