Random Question Thread XVIII: Just an Ordinary Sword of Legend

[Zadimortis]

Figured that was the case. Erased the post because I checked the Calculating Magic Damage page on the Wiki, and saw that MAB was, in fact, a multiplier for elemental WS damage, which has ridiculous effects if you have 999 of a stat instead of 150-200 (hence Atma of the Ultimate increasing your damage by that much on a staff WS). Thanks very much for the responses :3

[cdgreg]

Figured that was the case. Erased the post because I checked the Calculating Magic Damage page on the Wiki, and saw that MAB was, in fact, a multiplier for elemental WS damage, which has ridiculous effects if you have 999 of a stat instead of 150-200 (hence Atma of the Ultimate increasing your damage by that much on a staff WS). Thanks very much for the responses :3

Yup, at this point most players should have access to ultimate, beyond, and then possibly something more rare that's specific to your elemental WS. As the previous poster mentioned, don't forget ascetics drink, that's a nice chunk of "free" MAB. I was utterly shocked how easily my THF mule brewed down Shinryu with ultimate, beyond, and mounted champion (for survivability while building TH) using aeolin edge.

[zagex]

I believe Brew gives you MAB or some elemental damage multiplier, because quickdraw damage is increased, and wildfire's damage calculation doesn't go nearly as high as tested values without a multiplier

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I believe Brew gives you MAB or some elemental damage multiplier, because quickdraw damage is increased, and wildfire's damage calculation doesn't go nearly as high as tested values without a multiplier

It wouldn't surprise me if it gave 999 MAB and 999 MACC since it gives 999 attack and defense.

[Byrthnoth]

The JA delay needs to stay to keep dnc balanced. It is already a strong DD job, or a strong support job. Removing JA delay would let it be both at the same time. Steps were worth using even though it lowered *your* damage back when you were doing something like dynamis or einherjar, because it increased the damage everyone else did. The problem is just that there is nothing tough enough to make a support dnc optimal any more, so the only way to play it is as a DD.

Well, yeah. And unfortunately playing it as a DD entails using only two of its job-specific JAs. Saber Dance and Haste Samba. They need to make flourishes more useful or Steps/flourishes take less time.

[DNAval]

just spent 3 hours trying to get cata for my mnk to cleave, i know my staff isn't capped but with smitting blow and ultimate atmas + Sea daughter (because i don't have irath atma)

I'm barely breaking 1K cata, people have posted 2-2.5k while i don't expect to hit those number i did expect something a little higher.
any ideas?

[Kamil]

Would NIN AF3+2 body be better to TP in than AF+1 body?

[Byrthnoth]

just spent 3 hours trying to get cata for my mnk to cleave, i know my staff isn't capped but with smitting blow and ultimate atmas + Sea daughter (because i don't have irath atma)

I'm barely breaking 1K cata, people have posted 2-2.5k while i don't expect to hit those number i did expect something a little higher.
any ideas?

Martial Staff or Pluto staff. Cosmos is going to matter quite a bit, but 2-2.5k is probably with Ascetic's. I get 2k pretty regularly with high-TP Aeolian Edges.

[Nightfyre]

Would NIN AF3+2 body be better to TP in than AF+1 body?

If delay reduction capped (or possibly outside Abyssea), yes.

[Kamil]

If delay reduction capped (or possibly outside Abyssea), yes.

Thanks.

Just realized that I posted in wrong thread

[Rocl]

If delay reduction capped (or possibly outside Abyssea), yes.

I always fuck up calculating the delay reduction cap; what's the standard set used to hit that and wear AF3+2 body?

[DNAval]

Yeah I'm using plutos for cata and like I said barely breaking 1k, I just don't see cosmos making a 1k diff.

On a side note I'm having same issues with aolian edge barely doing 1.3k-ish and I use gales ultimate and rr any ideas for AE? Martial knife X , but would that add 500+ damage?

[rog]

It wouldn't surprise me if it gave 999 MAB and 999 MACC since it gives 999 attack and defense.

Definitely not 999 mab, it's much less than that.

When the first brew was used, i mathed it out to be a minimum of 100 mab, but obviously that was a nuke, so there was no way to know if it was more (because we don't know if/where int caps, etc). If someone hasn't already found how much mab it gives, qd would make it trivial to figure out, since it is not affected by other stats.

[Milkster]

So I've been thinking about coming back but I wouldn't be a hardcore player, more of a casual. Is it worth it if I don't want to devote more than 2-4 hours a day max playing and probably do it solo (not able to dualbox)? I've been gone for about 1.5 years now. Also if I come back I'd like to do some emps. Just wondering if it's worth it and if I could catch up with everyone else.

[Moridam]

is there any point to getting SAM caught up to the new level cap? already have mnk, and if i do an empyreal weapon it's not gonna be masa.

[Yugl]

So I've been thinking about coming back but I wouldn't be a hardcore player, more of a casual. Is it worth it if I don't want to devote more than 2-4 hours a day max playing and probably do it solo (not able to dualbox)? I've been gone for about 1.5 years now. Also if I come back I'd like to do some emps. Just wondering if it's worth it and if I could catch up with everyone else.

It's not worth it solo. Coming back as you are, you're missing Furtherance, Merit, Sojourn, and Lunar Abyssites. In addition, you're lacking some crucial atmas. I would recommend finding 3-4 other players. Preferably ones that let you get the following PT combinations : NIN WAR MNK WHM and BLU/NIN BLM/BRD WHM/RDM.

[Gun-it]

What atma's should i use when brewing with jinpu?

[ccf]

What atma's should i use when brewing with jinpu?

Gales/Ultimate/Beyond/Baying Moon

[Amok]

@DNAval
There's a lot to be gotten from MAB gear, elemental gorgets/belts and mods too. According to fTP values on wiki, AE gets about a 27% boost going from 100 to 200 tp.

[Gun-it]

Gales/Ultimate/Beyond/Baying Moon

thanks