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  1. #481
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvrdragon View Post
    It's generally accepted that the amount of enhanced light is based on the level of the mob (including Ephemerals).
    Yet to see a shred of evidence to try and prove this. It was a theory that someone came up with, but unless I've missed it, it hasn't been backed up at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvrdragon View Post
    It also varies by how many Abyssite you have that boost lights
    Same thing. Callling bullshit untill someone bothers to properly test it. As it is, it looks like they just randomly give higher tier chests when your lights aren't capped, rather than increasing your actual lights.

  2. #482
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    best current ninja tp set and ws set (hi obv) inside abyssea, include situational variant sets of each if need be

    i've been out of the loop on ninja since the beginning of scars, and haven't really been paying much attention to it until now for the fact that i'm fed up with samurai being a piece of trash for +90% of the things i do in-game these days, and then i account the fact that zero to hero is easier done than said as well, and, well, you get the idea

    fairly certain that kidnoftle dudeface or whatever would have the answers i would surely seek Q_Q

    also, for ninja atmas, i assume rr/gh/apoc > rr/gh/ss for nin since you can abuse kamome/qirmiz/loki's/cavaros and [nearly] cap crit dmg+, enough to the point where the 15% triple attack would crush the minuscule increase from ss and using str/dex/atk in the slots otherwise

  3. #483
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    Alright, for those of you who suggested cleaving key items in Tahrongi, I've never done a cleave before, though i have the basics of it down. Grab lots of mobs, use retaliation, use fell cleave.

    That out of the way, what are my target mobs here, and how do I go about capping out my lights first and which ones do I need? Last time I tried to do amber lights there after an exp pt on mnk, I couldn't find any eph mobs whatsoever (could find a bunch of ones at 100% w/ show all on ap radar, but couldn't find them for shit so ended up having to do amber on adamantoise mobs >.>)

  4. #484
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    Looking to farm WoE soon. Wondering what job I should use to farm. WAR THF RDM BLM. I'll sometimes have a WHM/BRD character available as well.

  5. #485
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    Alright, for those of you who suggested cleaving key items in Tahrongi, I've never done a cleave before, though i have the basics of it down. Grab lots of mobs, use retaliation, use fell cleave.

    That out of the way, what are my target mobs here, and how do I go about capping out my lights first and which ones do I need? Last time I tried to do amber lights there after an exp pt on mnk, I couldn't find any eph mobs whatsoever (could find a bunch of ones at 100% w/ show all on ap radar, but couldn't find them for shit so ended up having to do amber on adamantoise mobs >.>)
    Cap azure pearl and amber. Don't bother looking for ephmerals, only mobs that can amber are adamantoise, wyrms, and sandworms. I prefer adamantoise personally. T1 VNMs are great for capping pearl.

  6. #486
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    Am I cleaving the adamantoise? If I didn't already have a shitload of time built up from that pt, it seems like it'd rly drain the fk out of time doing amber on adamantoises. The azure kills seems like a drag as well w/o eph mobs. Would really be cutting it close :/.

    Also, if I'm pulling on rdm, do i Need to get a reduced number of mobs? Cause I'll only have cure 4 available

  7. #487
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    Am I cleaving the adamantoise? If I didn't already have a shitload of time built up from that pt, it seems like it'd rly drain the fk out of time doing amber on adamantoises. The azure kills seems like a drag as well w/o eph mobs. Would really be cutting it close :/.

    Also, if I'm pulling on rdm, do i Need to get a reduced number of mobs? Cause I'll only have cure 4 available
    Once you have lights capped I'd recommend cleaving bats, they link and dont give ruby. Also you can just amber T1 VNM aswell.

  8. #488
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    How bad is Emperador de Altepa? Been having a bitch of a time trying to get the T2 vnm in grauberg, always seems to be down or claimed. Emperador trioable with mnk whm brd?

    Edit: Eh sorry for double post

  9. #489
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fievel View Post
    How bad is Emperador de Altepa? Been having a bitch of a time trying to get the T2 vnm in grauberg, always seems to be down or claimed. Emperador trioable with mnk whm brd?

    Edit: Eh sorry for double post
    Around 40% it likes to start using 4,000 needles 1-3 times in a row. Suggest having stuns (BLU Head Butts works fine) after it uses the first 4,000 Needles so you don't get flurried by another 1-2 of them.

    Personally, we didn't try to duo/trio it. We had 6 people (MNK, WHM, RDM, BLU, BLU, BLM) all in range to absorb the needles. Shits easy with stuns.

  10. #490
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    Spams 4k needles back to back at low hp. Have your whm brd get HP atmas or get more bodies (avatars, pets etc).

  11. #491
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    Assuming not using Blade: Hi, Jin is still best nin spammable WS? Also, is nin JSE backpiece(1 with 5 dex on it) the optimal TP piece or WS piece? If it is or isnt, what's a good list to show order of best to worst TP and WS backs for nin, assuming no Blade: Hi.

  12. #492
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    I've always auto-sorted spells, but have finally decided to manual sort. Came out amazing, but I have the bad habit of auto-sorting without thinking about it. Is anyone aware of a hack or app that lets you customize the order of magic when you do an auto-sort of spells? Would be great to populate the order across all of my characters and prevent me from f'ing it up.

  13. #493

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    @cream soda: T1 VNM and low tier popped NM's to cap lights. cleave mandy or bats for fun and profit. it's pretty quick.

  14. #494
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronPandemonium View Post
    best current ninja tp set and ws set (hi obv) inside abyssea, include situational variant sets of each if need be

    i've been out of the loop on ninja since the beginning of scars, and haven't really been paying much attention to it until now for the fact that i'm fed up with samurai being a piece of trash for +90% of the things i do in-game these days, and then i account the fact that zero to hero is easier done than said as well, and, well, you get the idea

    fairly certain that kidnoftle dudeface or whatever would have the answers i would surely seek Q_Q

    also, for ninja atmas, i assume rr/gh/apoc > rr/gh/ss for nin since you can abuse kamome/qirmiz/loki's/cavaros and [nearly] cap crit dmg+, enough to the point where the 15% triple attack would crush the minuscule increase from ss and using str/dex/atk in the slots otherwise
    RR/GH/DarkDepths for hi, I think thorny has a better idea on ws sets for it than I do but its pretty straight forward; as much agi as possible. Best tp set ups vary dependent on acc(obv) but a pretty standard cookie cutter tp set would be

    Kannagi/Kamome/x/Qiriz tath
    Iga+2/Iga/Iga/Suppa
    af1(iga+2)/dusk+1/Rajas/Epona's
    Iga/Goading/Iga+2/Iga+2

    The () is normally the only piece I swap out for acc or when att speed is capped. If you have full haste buffs go w/ igabody+2 and brutal over iga earring. Starting from scratch and assuming you have a dbox that has either rdm or whm you could complete all the +2s in about 10hrs. If you have access to brews it will make the body obtainable in as fast as you can kill the repops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Koyangi View Post
    Assuming not using Blade: Hi, Jin is still best nin spammable WS? Also, is nin JSE backpiece(1 with 5 dex on it) the optimal TP piece or WS piece? If it is or isnt, what's a good list to show order of best to worst TP and WS backs for nin, assuming no Blade: Hi.
    Yes on mobs that don't have piercing bonus'. Backpieces for tp go Iga > Cavaros > if you can't get cavaros, quit ffxi. Same for ws afaik (the new +5dex/str piece would be probably be better)

  15. #495
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    Has anyone attempted doing Contaminated collesium or The hills are alive at higher levels? It's been years since I even tried those BCs. Really feeling too lazy to camp aspi and morbolger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidnoftle View Post
    RR/GH/DarkDepths for hi,
    Apocalypse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredjanx View Post
    Apocalypse?
    yes

  18. #498
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    Can I toss Othinus' Bow and not have any regrets now that I have Virtus Crossbow?

  19. #499
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    Alright, so I need some numbers from people as I have absolutely no idea how much STP is needed on SAM for the non-450 GKs these days. Obviously full merits.

    How much STP in gear is needed to 4-hit a 464 delay GK with and without a STP: Major Atma? And 5-hit?

    Same questions for a 437 or w/e Masamune/WoEMasa is.

    And a 480 Delay Polearm? (Is Polearm even worth it nowadays?)

    Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    Am I cleaving the adamantoise? If I didn't already have a shitload of time built up from that pt, it seems like it'd rly drain the fk out of time doing amber on adamantoises. The azure kills seems like a drag as well w/o eph mobs. Would really be cutting it close :/.

    Also, if I'm pulling on rdm, do i Need to get a reduced number of mobs? Cause I'll only have cure 4 available
    If you have rdm with a decent -PDT and phalanx 2, i suggest mandies. They don't link so you'll have to pull with dia/diaga or something of the like. Use tacos and VIT/regen atmas if you have them on rdm and they'll rarely break SS/phalanx. Assuming azure is capped and you can pull a decent amount, you're almost guaranteed to get restore chests every pull, so MS/sekk/300tp should wipe out a majority of the pull, which eliminates the need for many cures(on top of phalanx2 on the war already).

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