Random Question Thread XVIII: Just an Ordinary Sword of Legend

**Davricle** · 2011-01-03 20:55

Do any !! Affect magian material drop rates?

**Motenten** · 2011-01-03 21:09

Originally Posted by spider123

Searched for Victory Smite gear sets, and there have been a couple which helped as a base, but a few questions:
(Assuming VV/RR/Apoc and Red Curry Buns)

1)Is it worth using Loki's and/or Anwig (Str/Dex+4, CritDMG+2%, WsAcc+!5) when impetus is down, or stick to Aias Bonnet & Tantra body +2 the whole time?

2)Vigilance Mantle+1 (Str/Dex+5) worth using at any point? One post suggested Atheling when Atk is capped and Cerb+1 when not.

Attack not capped:
Verethragna // Thew
head/Flame/Brutal/Aesir
body/Heafoc/Rajas/Epona
back/BlackBelt/Usu/Tantra+2

Attack capped (Stalward's)
Verethragna // Tantra
head/Flame/Brutal/kemas
body/Heafoc/Rajas/Epona
back/BlackBelt/Usu/Tantra+2

I'm aware of Beir, but holding out for a +1 though. :S
Thanks for any input.

1) Tantra +2 body should always win unless you're capping attack, in which case Loki's is slightly ahead (but not enough that I'd bother considering that particular condition in gear setups; something like 0.5%).

Anwig and Aias should be near identical.

2) Atheling should win vs Cerb +1 in all conditions. You'd want 6+ str in order to replace Atheling when attack is capped.

**Motenten** · 2011-01-03 21:26

Originally Posted by Greatguardian

Slightly late, but why use WAR instead of MNK? Fell Cleave? Cataclysm does plenty of damage with the right atmas. Smiting Blow (for TP bonus), Ultimate, and Cosmos and I hit 2k+ every Cata.

As an aside, what gear setup do you use for that? With Smiting Blow, Ultimate, Cosmos, /blm, Pluto's Staff, 7 MAB in gear (forgot to take Denali Kecks for test) and misc Int gear I'm getting 1700-1800. In a previous attempt I was maxing at 1200 when using Minikin's instead of Smiting Blow, and was /nin at the time instead of /blm.

**Julian** · 2011-01-03 21:29

Likewise on the above, I also got shitty returns from using MM. Could this WS not be modded by INT? (I don't really know how Ele WS's work >_>)

Looks like I need me some smiting blow D: gonna try to get that asap

edit: Ok, according to the formula it is based on d/fINT, guess it just doesn't play as huge a role as MAB and the likes.

**Yubar** · 2011-01-03 21:32

How much Store TP do I need to keep on Ukko's Fury using Ukonvasara with a five hit outside of Abyssea?

**darkepyon** · 2011-01-03 22:19

A couple of NIN questions.

First, are Blade: Ku and Kamu at all worth getting or can I just skip them? Second, is Jin going to be my bread and butter in terms of weapon skills? Finally, what's an effective way to skill ninjutsu (or if there's any point to it)?

**Cream Soda** · 2011-01-03 22:19

Originally Posted by Greatguardian

Slightly late, but why use WAR instead of MNK? Fell Cleave? Cataclysm does plenty of damage with the right atmas. Smiting Blow (for TP bonus), Ultimate, and Cosmos and I hit 2k+ every Cata. I just switch back to RR/GH/AoA when I go to kill Chloris.

Edit: @Nynja, Yes they do.

The TP gain is much slower though, no? since no retaliates.

**Nightfyre** · 2011-01-03 22:41

Originally Posted by darkepyon

A couple of NIN questions.

First, are Blade: Ku and Kamu at all worth getting or can I just skip them? Second, is Jin going to be my bread and butter in terms of weapon skills? Finally, what's an effective way to skill ninjutsu (or if there's any point to it)?

Ku is one of the blue proc WS, so you'll probably want to get that.

**Massimo** · 2011-01-03 22:52

Originally Posted by Yubar

How much Store TP do I need to keep on Ukko's Fury using Ukonvasara with a five hit outside of Abyssea?

Depends on your TP build obviously. With my setup, I have to use Rose Strap, Rajas Ring and Attila's Earring on Ukko's, without STP or regain atmas.

That's with

Ukon/Rose/x/White
Zelus/Almah/Attila/Brutal
AF3+2/AF3+2orPerle/Hoard/Rajas
Tact/Goading/AF3+2/AF3+2

and Carbonara for TPing.

**Julian** · 2011-01-03 23:10

Are T3 VNMs in Heroes zones doable with mnk whm rdmorbrd? They sound kinda nasty D: but otherwiki makes everything sound nasty (thinking of doing ochain <.<)

**Yubar** · 2011-01-03 23:20

Originally Posted by Massimo

Depends on your TP build obviously. With my setup, I have to use Rose Strap, Rajas Ring and Attila's Earring on Ukko's, without STP or regain atmas.

That's with

Ukon/Rose/x/White
Zelus/Almah/Attila/Brutal
AF3+2/AF3+2orPerle/Hoard/Rajas
Tact/Goading/AF3+2/AF3+2

and Carbonara for TPing.

Yours looks exactly like mine except I don't have an Almah Torque or Af3 +2 body or Zelus head yet. Would I be able to get away with using Askar body, Turban, and Chiv neck?

**Greatguardian** · 2011-01-03 23:49

@ All Above,

I just go MNK/SAM, Smiting Blow/Ultimate/Cosmos (Beyond only beats SB when @200+TP for obvious reasons), Artemis Medal, Moldy/Hecate's Earring, Pluto's Staff, Kirin's Osode, Denali Kecks and INT+6 rings for misc INT/MAB gear that I have room for. Fulltime hasso, Sekkanoki anything over 200TP like restore chests, and let the mobs beat on me for free TP while my Whm curebombs me. With big enough pulls and capped azure I have an Ascetic's on pretty much fulltime, so at 100TP I'll do about 2070 damage, going up to 2600 at 200TP.

**rog** · 2011-01-03 23:53

Originally Posted by Cream Soda

The TP gain is much slower though, no? since no retaliates.

Counter?

**Byrthnoth** · 2011-01-03 23:54

Originally Posted by rog

Counter?

Has never given TP?

**Greatguardian** · 2011-01-03 23:58

Counterstance is also very likely to get your ass killed when you're Cata-Cleaving, lol. I found that out the hard way. Protect 5 and Tacos help a ton in that regard. I rarely have Phalanx available but when it is, that's pretty awesome too. You just want mobs to hit for slightly more than 0 so you get TP.

**Massimo** · 2011-01-04 00:01

Originally Posted by Yubar

Yours looks exactly like mine except I don't have an Almah Torque or Af3 +2 body or Zelus head yet. Would I be able to get away with using Askar body, Turban, and Chiv neck?

You would have to weaponskill in some stupid shit, without AF3+2 and Almah Torque. +29 STP to be exact, before /SAM. You'll probably be better off going with a 6-hit at that point.

**rog** · 2011-01-04 00:01

Originally Posted by Byrthnoth

Has never given TP?

Well don't i look foolish.

**shepardG** · 2011-01-04 00:46

How would a RDM go about soloing Adze? Would it be easier/more worth my time to attempt a solo on either dnc or thf with a shit ton of evasion?

**Koyangi** · 2011-01-04 01:01

I have completed the quest 'Hope Blooms on the Battlefield' in Abyssea - Konschtat and Raibaht will not flag the Martello quest which should logically follow. I even zoned in and out. I even waited a game day. Neither wiki states any other form of prerequisite. If it matters, I even did the quest delivering linkpearls to the 3 camps, subsequently zoned and still nothing. Any help would be appreciated. I have also done 16 Camera turn ins and still nothing from Raibaht. Wiki says I'll cap fame at 24 turn ins and that the Martello quest he gives is fame level 3, which means I'm theoretically at level 3 since my 12th camera turn in.

Bolded new info, original never got an answer.

**Soho** · 2011-01-04 01:25

If I got a Yataghan Augmented with Crit Hit Damage+, would that Crit Bonus apply to Ranged Attacks as well?

I don't want to waste time/notes on it if it is only applied to the Dagger itself.

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