Random Question Thread XVIII: Just an Ordinary Sword of Legend

[Moridam]

Any reason to hang onto Cuchulain's Mantle at this point? Seems pretty much useless inside Abyssea and I can't think of anything outside where I wouldn't be easily acc capped already. Price completely tanked while I was away from the game for a few months, I could still make a mil back on it and I'm having difficulty thinking of any reason to keep holding on to it. Other than the icon looks neat, I guess.

[Yugl]

Sell it.

[Massimo]

Yes actually, Ravager's Gorger seems to do better with Zerk up

Why would Ravager's Gorget do better than a sea gorget with berserk up? Accuracy and fTP should be irrelevant to your pDIF.

You're also probably using the wrong mods for Ukko's in all these threads. It's 2.0 and 60%.

[Galattea]

I'm going to assume yes, but for the "Enhances Restraint" effect on Ravager's Mufflers +1/2 to take effect do they need to be on when used and kept on to keep it?

Need to be kept on to keep the effect, as far as I know doesnt matter if you wear them or not when the JA is activated. On a related note, does anyone know what the effect is on +1/+2?

[Massimo]

Need to be kept on to keep the effect, as far as I know doesnt matter if you wear them or not when the JA is activated. On a related note, does anyone know what the effect is on +1/+2?

They need to be on for your melee hits, not weaponskills. Regular restraint is +.~5% WSDMG per hit, +2 is +~1%, so seeing as how other +1/+2 gear works, I'm going to assume that the +1 is +.~75%.

[Galattea]

They need to be on for your melee hits, not weaponskills. Regular restraint is +.~5% WSDMG per hit, +2 is +~1%, so seeing as how other +1/+2 gear works, I'm going to assume that the +1 is +.~75%.

Thanks a lot ! Silly WS questions: Str +2/3 or Ravager's Earring ? Does Cavaros Mantle really beat Atheling on WS with Berserk up ? Alternative for WS legs with WCharge up, assuming no Hachiryu available ? All this for Ukko's.

Thanks in advance.

[hezzel]

After grinding the fuck out of this game hard for the past 2 and a half weeks on vereth 85, need to take a break and do something a bit more relaxing. Is Wings of the Goddess storyline any good? I may start doing those missions for the story.

Storyline its good and well worth spending time on actually reading the dialogue.

[ryskar]

Storyline its good and well worth spending time on actually reading the dialogue.

Agreed. I did up to Crossroads of Time on my old character for all 3 nation paths, shit's awesome. Windy path is my favorite. Sandy is okay and Bastok has Zazarg!

[Scrooge]

Maybe this is old news, but was passingly curious.

Can't seem to find the mob that drops Shadow Sachet.

Shadow Belt is the only belt (or Sachet) that I can find to have a double dropper (Maere and Azdaja). Is this a mistake by SE and one of these two is supposed to drop the Sachet? Or did I just miss the mob that drops it?

[xIndustrialxAngelx]

Any reason to keep a wyvern earring around?

[Andradi]

I can't think of one.


Is Martial Knife the best Aeolian Edge weapon?

[Neisan]

Why would Ravager's Gorget do better than a sea gorget with berserk up? Accuracy and fTP should be irrelevant to your pDIF.

You're also probably using the wrong mods for Ukko's in all these threads. It's 2.0 and 60%.

EDIT: Changed the mod, seems to be another error in addition to that, so disregard my last post.

For above, If the mods on it are correct either Martial or TP bonus dagger should work.

[Massimo]

I'm not interested in your numbers from Motenten's spreadsheet. If I was, I'd just plug them in myself.

No offense to Motenten, seeing as the thing works fairly well (and he bothered creating it for a job he doesn't even use). There is however some flaws in it, that people don't seem to realize or understand how to take account for, seeing as they didn't write it themselves, which gives some faulty results at times.

[Neisan]

I need to stop posting at late night or I'd have realized there was a mistake instead of double checking to make sure it was right.

[EjinCaitsith]

They need to be on for your melee hits, not weaponskills. Regular restraint is +.~5% WSDMG per hit, +2 is +~1%, so seeing as how other +1/+2 gear works, I'm going to assume that the +1 is +.~75%.

I did some extra testing recently and it seems delay has a direct impact on restraint bonus received. For a 482/504 weapon i would assume the bonus is more around 1.8/1.9% bonus per a hit and double that with +2 active. The downside is you can only charge restraint on the 1st attack of the round and DA/TA/OAX hits after the 1st hit will not charge restraint(if you miss your 1st hit in a round but more land due to DA/OAX there is no charge).

[Massimo]

I did some extra testing recently and it seems delay has a direct impact on restraint bonus received. For a 482/504 weapon i would assume the bonus is more around 1.8/1.9% bonus per a hit and double that with +2 active. The downside is you can only charge restraint on the 1st attack of the round(if it misses there's no bonus at all) and DA/TA/OAX hits after the 1st hit will not charge restraint.

While the delay thing very well may be true, and kind of exciting even, I'm very sure that extra attacks do count. I used a Joyeuse to test it all with, and no matter if I had all single or DA hits (be it Joyeue's OA2 or regular DA), I got the same result.

Edit: Looking at your tests, it does indeed look like delay affects it, which makes it kind of hilarious that I randomly hit a delay where it was basically .5~1 per hit, which made everything fit in my head.

Edit2: Hrm, again looking at your post, you have some screenshots about the whole DA thing, which is very interesting to me, seeing as that doesn't match what I found at all. Which weapon did you use to test it with?

Very excited about the delay news though, seeing as it actually makes AF3+2 hands a lot more useful during Restraint than previously expected.

[EjinCaitsith]

Same here when i first tested a few weeks ago, maybe i should retest OAT and if they charge, i admit i just assumed if DA's after the first hit didn't charge then OAT shouldn't either. It's still irrelevant for a GA war, because i'm 99% sure DAs after the 1st hit don't charge restraint and attacks after a missed attack don't charge.

[Foldypaws]

Any reason to keep a wyvern earring around?

Restoring breath.

Edit: Hurf durf, wrong DRG earring >_<.

[EjinCaitsith]

Edit2: Hrm, again looking at your post, you have some screenshots about the whole DA thing, which is very interesting to me, seeing as that doesn't match what I found at all. Which weapon did you use to test it with?

I used Snr.Msk Scimitar/Company sword so the DAs in the pictures are all from JT.

[Eldelphia]

Spawn conditions/location for Indrik?

Indrik was up last night in the tigers near conflux 4 on Alexander. It was just wondering about.