Random Question Thread XVIII: Just an Ordinary Sword of Legend

[Appie]

Whats the best/fastest/easiest/whatever way to farm MNK body seals? The Garuda VNM is insanely overcamped.

Afraid not, though I never tried the giant in Uleg, the comments on wiki already threw me off. Cactaur is an option if you got the people to eat 4k needles x3. I tried one of those cactaur and it used it twice (triple 4k twice that is) pretty close together, but still enough time to throw some cures in between, not that it mattered, after the 5th 4k needle 3 of the 5 people I brought were dead. Stupid thing was it used it around 50% while I thought it wouldn't get access to triple 4k until <25%. Forgot which potion helps, fool's or fanatic, could try it with that or bring more people/pets to eat damage.

T2 VNM is the easiest to duo, but if you see a group of JP's whoring it, might as well just leave, unless you bring 6+ people like them too.

[Francisco]

I love it when someone on BG hypothesizes a function of the game works differently than we assume it to work, and they immediately get shot down with enlightening remarks like "you're an idiot".

Seriously, someone could come in here with something like "Glory Crown gives 100% resistance to Break, Doom, Death, Bio and Terror" with screenshots to prove it and someone would have to say "random shit is random - you just got lucky".

[Greatguardian]

Whats the best/fastest/easiest/whatever way to farm MNK body seals? The Garuda VNM is insanely overcamped.

As mentioned above, Garuda is by far the easiest way to do this. Depending on where people are camping though, you can just beat them to the punch popping her before she reaches her idle point. Garuda spawns at #01 like all Abyssea VNMs and then runs a set course towards her idle point in the middle of Pots far to the north. To get there, she walks up the two waterfalls near Melo Melo and Amphitrite. What you can do is wait for her at the top of the southern waterfall (This is all slightly NW of 04, west of crabs, you'll see it) and snag her as soon as she walks up it. You just need to make sure you can get her before she climbs up the northern waterfall near Amphitrite's spawn point, because if she does you'll have to Flux to #07 and grab her in the middle of buggards. Pugils don't give Ruby either, so it's fairly easy to snag her at the waterfall, run east, and blow shit up for time for 10-15 minutes before repeating.

[rog]

I love it when someone on BG hypothesizes a function of the game works differently than we assume it to work, and they immediately get shot down with enlightening remarks like "you're an idiot".

Seriously, someone could come in here with something like "Glory Crown gives 100% resistance to Break, Doom, Death, Bio and Terror" with screenshots to prove it and someone would have to say "random shit is random - you just got lucky".

Except he was wrong, so it's ok.

[Massimo]

I love it when someone on BG hypothesizes a function of the game works differently than we assume it to work, and they immediately get shot down with enlightening remarks like "you're an idiot".

Seriously, someone could come in here with something like "Glory Crown gives 100% resistance to Break, Doom, Death, Bio and Terror" with screenshots to prove it and someone would have to say "random shit is random - you just got lucky".

We've known how the game works for years. You're an idiot.

[Clash Perez]

As mentioned above, Garuda is by far the easiest way to do this. Depending on where people are camping though, you can just beat them to the punch popping her before she reaches her idle point. Garuda spawns at #01 like all Abyssea VNMs and then runs a set course towards her idle point in the middle of Pots far to the north. To get there, she walks up the two waterfalls near Melo Melo and Amphitrite. What you can do is wait for her at the top of the southern waterfall (This is all slightly NW of 04, west of crabs, you'll see it) and snag her as soon as she walks up it. You just need to make sure you can get her before she climbs up the northern waterfall near Amphitrite's spawn point, because if she does you'll have to Flux to #07 and grab her in the middle of buggards. Pugils don't give Ruby either, so it's fairly easy to snag her at the waterfall, run east, and blow shit up for time for 10-15 minutes before repeating.

Or you could just snag her where she spawns.

[Koyangi]

Is she wide scanable or something? Just curious how people know this stuff when it's spawned via resting.

[Francisco]

We've known how the game works for years. You're an idiot.

Actually, you assume to know how it works. Not that I really give two shits over arguing the spawn intricacies of fucking Leaping Lizzy - I just take exception to people who immediately say "no, you're wrong" without actual proof.

My testament to this is such: I camped LL a few times back in the day for gil. I'd gather all the lizards and kill them. Respawn was usually 1-2hrs... never less than an hour.

Much later, I camped it with a friend using Wide Scan. Each repop was under 20 minutes for about 6 kills. Later, people showed up and started killing lizards. We left at the 45 minute mark, without a repop.

I'm not saying the "kill PH only" thing is true - but it has a lot more basis than "no, you're wrong".

[Francisco]

Is she wide scanable or something? Just curious how people know this stuff when it's spawned via resting.

Unlocked ApRadar.

[Nightfyre]

nvm

[Massimo]

Actually, you assume to know how it works. Not that I really give two shits over arguing the spawn intricacies of fucking Leaping Lizzy - I just take exception to people who immediately say "no, you're wrong" without actual proof.

My testament to this is such: I camped LL a few times back in the day for gil. I'd gather all the lizards and kill them. Respawn was usually 1-2hrs... never less than an hour.

Much later, I camped it with a friend using Wide Scan. Each repop was under 20 minutes for about 6 kills. Later, people showed up and started killing lizards. We left at the 45 minute mark, without a repop.

I'm not saying the "kill PH only" thing is true - but it has a lot more basis than "no, you're wrong".

I and many others have done enough NM camping to know how it works by now. There is 2 Leaping Lizzies, and they have their own repop timer, which is why they're able to pop back-to-back. They share slot with the same lizard, which pops up at the top iirc, and neither of the three can be up at the same time. Killing other mobs does not make any of this go faster, just like with any other mob in the game. Did you kill darters to make nid pop more often? No.

<20 min pops 6 times in a row is also either a lie, you remembering it wrong or just that no one ever taught you how to properly use a clock.

[Clash Perez]

Is she wide scanable or something? Just curious how people know this stuff when it's spawned via resting.

It's information that can be gathered with in-game mechanics as well. Chain-resting and noting where it directs you each time you get a hit rather than "There seem to be no monsters in the area" is enough to figure it out.

[ronin sparthos]

Is she wide scanable or something? Just curious how people know this stuff when it's spawned via resting.

If you kill it enough times you'll notice it spawns in the same area every time and starts a monorail tour to the same endpoint every time.

[Koyangi]

I and many others have done enough NM camping to know how it works by now. There is 2 Leaping Lizzies, and they have their own repop timer, which is why they're able to pop back-to-back. They share slot with the same lizard, which pops up at the top iirc, and neither of the three can be up at the same time. Killing other mobs does not make any of this go faster, just like with any other mob in the game. Did you kill darters to make nid pop more often? No.

<20 min pops 6 times in a row is also either a lie, you remembering it wrong or just that no one ever taught you how to properly use a clock.

There's 2 lizards that are a PH, 1 that's on top and 1 on bottom that sometimes can pop near the top. Kill just those 2 lizards and you can see LL repop from both, LL can't actually be up more than once, but it is possible for example, kill 1st PH, kill 2nd PH 3 minutes later, LL pops from 1st, kill it, LL can pop from 2nd PH 3 minutes later, no SS to prove it but I've done it.

[Gunitsoldier]

Reposting it since it was last post on previous thread:

Any good lowman setups for The Hills are Alive (KS99 Adamantoise) ?

[Massimo]

There's 2 lizards that are a PH, 1 that's on top and 1 on bottom that sometimes can pop near the top. Kill just those 2 lizards and you can see LL repop from both, LL can't actually be up more than once, but it is possible for example, kill 1st PH, kill 2nd PH 3 minutes later, LL pops from 1st, kill it, LL can pop from 2nd PH 3 minutes later, no SS to prove it but I've done it.

Honestly, it's been years since I camped it, but I'm fairly sure only the top one is a PH.

You may be right, and I seem to remember I used to kill the bottom one as well, but then later realizing it wasn't needed or something. Either way, not really relevant, as that would be a PH as well.

[Kidnoftle]

Actually, you assume to know how it works. Not that I really give two shits over arguing the spawn intricacies of fucking Leaping Lizzy - I just take exception to people who immediately say "no, you're wrong" without actual proof.

And we shouldn't give a shit about the intricacies of testing most melee functions on lvl capped mobs like rabbits in wron. The point is that understanding game concepts doesn't change every time a new mob/nm is introduced (not saying that all mobs are equal, more that they are grouped in certain patterns), so in a way understanding how things like LL works is important to understanding how the game works; oh and yes, by now we understand how the game works.

[Greatguardian]

Or you could just snag her where she spawns.

Also works. It only takes her 2 minutes tops to get to the waterfall area, for me it was just the easiest aggro/link free, Ruby-light-free area for me to camp her when I did Mnk body. Constant 5k VSmites are going to 1-shot, or nearly 1-shot, pretty much every normal mob around so when we're going to be in a zone for a while my buddies prefer to have me someplace I won't cap them on Ruby lights in 5 minutes.

[Darkmagi]

Good lowman setup for KS99 Adamantoise The Hills are Alive ?

Did it fairly easily with RDM RDM BLM BLM. Just full rest and stop nuking right after it goes into shell mode. He won't go into his shell without taking damage (I never seemed to trigger it with DOTs either), so just bind/gravity while you rest. Isn't the fastest fight but it's easy and safe this way.

[Zubuis]

If you have 3 FF11 accounts for instance. Can you unlink 1 of the 3 from the security token? Or does it unlink them all?