Quick PSPGo/PSP-3000 Questions

[shukudai]

I don't know pretty much anyone with a PSPGo, and not sure if you can do the same thing with a PSP-3000, so here's my questions:

When you output video from either of them, how does it look on a TV or monitor? I have an HD TV, an old SD TV, and a spare monitor or two. Does the output get cropped horribly/annoying scan lines/anything really bad? I've seen a few random youtube videos, but they're not really definitive, and mostly taken on camera so it's hard to tell, and the people taking the videos didn't seem like they knew what they were doing.

Secondly, can you use a PS3 controller in some method, official or CFW, on a PSP-3000? The single attractive thing about the Go is that you can just pair it with a PS3 controller via bluetooth.

Ideally i'm looking to play a few games on actual TV, using an actual controller, and there are some pretty decent sales on both units going on. I'd really prefer a 3000, since I like physical media, but I may be willing to get a Go if it's a way easier/simpler option to use a controller, even if it mean's having to rebuy a game or two to get it on the damn PSPGo -_-;

[Kaisha]

As far as I know, could be wrong......

-Component output is the only method for outputting gameplay with the PSP, composite only works for XMB-related stuff (apparently can use a plugin with CFW to use composite for gameplay)
-Cannot use DualShock with non-Go models. Go has built-in bluetooth, other models do not, so the only method I could see it working is via a plugin and using the USB port, if that's even possible with the games
-As far as I've seen with PSP kiosks, the video output isn't scaled to fit the screen, so you get a black box around the playing field.


Honestly curious to see how the component cables work for myself, I got a pair on order after having gotten an ISO loader working on my PSP-3000 recently. My 13" LCD TV has a zoom function so hopefully that'll remove the black area. According to my 3000's menu, I can select progressive/interlace for the output, as well as selecting the aspect ratio (4:3/16:9)

[shukudai]

I don't see gameplay in that video yet, but it seems to be able to do 16:9/4:3 video output, and... To be honest, my eyes are crap when it comes to how good somehting actualyl looks, but it looks like the quality is not that bad at all, but I am assuming the scan laines are coming from it being on camcorder.

[shukudai]

For some reason I thought there was no CFW for PSPGo, if that's not the case, that makes me feel a whole lot better. I like my physical media, if I can still buy physical, and pop it on the Go via CFW that's not bad

[Kaisha]

As far as I'm aware, there isn't a CFW for PSP Go, but there was a HEN released 5 days ago that works on it and PSP-3000 models at fw6.20 that enables kernal-access via the HBL exploit, which for the most part gives a fair amount of access to the things CFW would give.
(granted it's still a little buggy currently, and a lot of the popular plugins are not compatible for TN-HEN/6.20)

[shukudai]

http://pspslimhacks.com/prometheus-i...-hen-released/

That's actually running on a PSPGo, unless i'm somehow mistaken? I remember seeing a Kotaku post about people getting KH:BBS playing on a Go (since it wasn't released digitally).

I guess I could learn to rip my own games, if I could then put them on the Go

[Kaisha]

That's an ISO loader running via TN-HEN. It still isn't CFW, but you never needed CFW to load ISOs to begin with, just kernel access.

[shukudai]

Not that technical when it comes to this stuff, basically you mean "it doesn't have any other CFW bonuses, but it'll still load ISOs?"

[Hiryo]

We have a 3000 and component cables here. The XMB was full screen, but we tried Valkyria Chronicles 2 and it had borders. Not sure if its able to be changed, but it still didnt look too bad on the screen.

[shukudai]

Yeah, I read something about how the 3000's videoout wasn't compatible with some sources or whatever, borders, the Go fixes that, I think it may just be up to the TV to be able to zoom or something to get rid of it.

[Kaisha]

Not that technical when it comes to this stuff, basically you mean "it doesn't have any other CFW bonuses, but it'll still load ISOs?"

HEN is shorthand for Homebrew Enabler. It's basically a temporary 'cfw' as the exploit only resides in memory, so if you shut off the PSP (sleep mode is fine), you'll have to redo the means of loading the HEN.
(which in the fw6.20 is through the Patapon 2 demo)

Granted, it's a little buggy as it stands, and it's not fully compatible with most plugins/homebrew/ISOs-via-plugin, but it's a start. It has some of the common features a CFW does though such as region/mac spoofing, and playing with the CPU/GPU clock speeds incase you want a game to run a little smoother like GTA.


I'm honestly not that big on downloading ISOs, but what I'm mainly waiting on for the HEN is a working UMD-dumper function so I can put my own games on the stick so I don't have to deal with the damn load times. Also waiting on a PSX plugin as playing some of my fav RPGs on the go, got a game of Star Ocean 2 that I've still yet to beat back when I had a PSP-1000. ;/

[shukudai]

That is a bit of a pain, if you have to load it up each time, but i'm also pretty confident someone will make a simple way to load ISOs or hack the Go better, or eventually maybe see something that just lets you rip your own UMDs to play on the Go. As is, I just want to play a couple games, using a screen and a controller, and seeing as PSP2 is 15.99 instead of 40$ on PSN right now, and the go is 150$, i'm gonna go for it

[Kaisha]

The guy who wrote the HEN has a VSH exploit under works (an exploit for the XMB itself iirc rather than through a game), but he's saving it as a trump card for when Sony blocks off the existing method on later firmwares.

[shukudai]

Well, I have a Go cheap. But I think the most annoying part, as far as I can tell, is you *NEED* the freaking craddle if you want to have your PSPGo charging *and* outputting. There's only two ports on the Go: Headset, and the propriatary Sony/USB connection. This connection is used to charge the device, but when you want to output video, you have to plug the component or RCA cables into that slot instead -.- So, I guess maybe it's possible that it can draw power from the TV while plugged in (that's what i'm looking at now, I can test it once it's charged though), otherwise I need the damn craddle -.-

[shukudai]

Well, it outputs well, controls well I'm tempted to grab the RGA cables as well, to output to my older TV that's in my bedroom if I want to lie down and play. I basically do need the cradle though, to charge it AND play with video-out at the same time, although i'm fairly certain battery life should shoot up a decent amount when outputting to a TV no? As it's not using the actual PSPGo screen.

Next up: Trying it through video capture on PC, see if I can get it to show up in a window on my monitor

[Darus Grey]

For the record, the 3000 and go can output gameplay via composite as well as component, the 2000 is only component, that said, it looks like ass, component or go home.


Best bet imho is CFW 2000 and then pay someone to do a controller mod for you. If you buy the 2000 used it'll probably end up same price as a go anyways after you pay the moder $50-$100.

Or can do it yourself for (near) free, though it's definitely not a beginner thing.


The other option is using remote joy, it outputs control commands/video to PC, so you can play with a controller and fullscreen video, output the video to a TV, still need controller hooked to your PC though.

It's clunky but it works, I modded mine for controller though, joy setup is just too elaborate for "plug and play"

[shukudai]

I'm fine with the Go for that stuff, to be honest I already have too many wires all over the place.

But, I think I may have to get a composite wire, and use it on an older TV that's composite only, because while I don't actually mind the black borders, my main TV is plasma (it was cheap >_>), and that's gonna get mad burn in if you play for 3-4 hours at a time, from the black borders (since it actual outputs a static black color as I understand, and if the same pixels stay on screen the whole time, that causes the burn in)

[Darus Grey]

ZOOM1/ZOOM2 solves your issue.

[shukudai]

On my tv, not so much, unless it's doing something I don't know?

It definetly zooms it in, but there's still a ton of black space

[Darus Grey]

On my tv, not so much, unless it's doing something I don't know?

It definetly zooms it in, but there's still a ton of black space

Dunno then =/ On mine ZOOM2 fills the screen and cuts off only like 2-3%

Though honestly, having black borders 3-4 hours at a time isn't going to hurt your set at all, I've watched thousands of movies on my plasmas(cinematic widescreen) and it's never been an issue.

If it really bothers you though, you can buy a upscaler for like $50~ that will upconvert PSP signal to 720p(so it fills the whole screen).