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    The guy asked for a 'simple' answer without a wall of math. I assumed by simple he meant, figure you're capped attack, fstr, and accuracy.

    If you're not fstr capped, crudelis usually pulls ahead.
    If you are, ele belt usually pulls ahead.
    The difference is SO small, I honestly don't think it's worth making two different macros for the situation at this point.

    Although I did forget one thing. Due to rounding, depending on the rest of your AGI value, Crudelis may give you 2 or 3 wsc. If you're at the point where it's the latter, Crudelis is the safer bet unless you want the acc/ctp. So I stand corrected -- kinda.

    Again the difference is small. We're talking single to low double digits in a 'normal' Abyssea setting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    For spikes with 2x TA or TA+DA or 2x DA Crudelis win with just agi too.
    Incidentally, with the numbers you gave (243agi @5.1 vs 238agi @5.2 with GH/RR/Apoc) assuming att/fstr/acc cap, you've literally got -- down to the nearest integar -- the exact same expected damage from both setups once you weight the odds of TA/DA'ing.

    By the way, minor thing, 21%DA for WS, not 20%. Unless you're ws'ing in something funky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrooge View Post
    By the way, minor thing, 21%DA for WS, not 20%. Unless you're ws'ing in something funky.
    Yeah sorry, somehow always 3+3 from mantle+ring is 5 for me.

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    Not sure if this is the right place in posting it, but sort of trying to work out the math, for Tachi :Fudo if using SB which gives tp bonus.

    Wiki (Yes i know, likely unreliable) has ftp for masamune at 3.65 for 100%, 5.75 for 300%, and but missing 200% which is obviously in between the two.

    With VV atma and WS set, I am most likely capped on fstr, the snow gorget/snow belt would give 0.2, but reading the posts before it seems that if this tp bonus makes Fudo for 100 tp to be like 200 tp, that diminishes the increase in damage given by gorget+belt as this makes the ftp increase from the two smaller in comparision to a lower ftp.

    Most people posting their WS sets for Fudo seem to use those 2, but also advocate using lots of attack+ to raise Fudo's damage, so I am sort of confused as to if justice torque/attack belts would be better? (I guess there is acc component that I assume to be capped, which might or might not be, any idea on the acc boost from these equipment?)

    (Likely my ignorance, but why is it that attack mean more to Kaiten/Fudo as compared to say something like gekko?)

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    Gekko has a hidden innate attack bonus, similar to Viper Bite.

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