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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirian View Post
    Granted, it helps, but there are very famous studies that show just the opposite of what you claim.
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    Think: administering electric shock to helpless victims while under direction of an authority figure.
    well, to their defense, the authority figure did have on a sciency coat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blarg View Post
    well, to their defense, the authority figure did have on a sciency coat
    I know you're only being half-serious, hell, so am I, lol. Just adding that it's been replicated many times, more notably as a game show, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meteora View Post
    Indeed. Also, that proverb you quoted in Portuguese (some other thread I can't remember) didn't make sense because you fucked up the translation ;x

    But I digress, IS THE LADY BETTER?

    Edit: If it wasn't you, please accept my apologies. I don't see something about OMG TEH BRAZILIANS/PORTUGUESE that often.
    That was me, and the translation was correct. Recall that mares and marés are two different words, that is, if you even speak Portuguese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aduidarnenye View Post
    Who hasn't seen the vitriolic hate speech that goes on in politics today? Every election floods TVs with attack ads. We see them here in Canada as well, both the American version on American channels and the copycat Canadian politicians doing the same now.

    Honestly, I don't know why people are so worked up to pass blame onto someone else. Everyone has been involved in the current climate of hate in politics. These people should just own up, take responsibility, and change themselves for the future.
    Because its essentially political suicide at this point. Everyone has to deny if it they want to have any sort of relevant political existence in the near future. Nobody wants to be part of the group that almost killed that politician through what essentially constitutes literal hate speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olo401 View Post


    No one's pushing. He is what he is.

    Edit: Blacked out the guy's address.
    Where is the original with the misspelled city?

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the...l?wprss=thefix

    Washington Post seems to disagree....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucavi View Post
    Because its essentially political suicide at this point. Everyone has to deny if it they want to have any sort of relevant political existence in the near future. Nobody wants to be part of the group that almost killed that politician through what essentially constitutes literal hate speech.
    That's depressing. It would be a nice change for a politician to man up and take responsibility for something. If one of them said "I'm part of the problem but I'm going to fix myself" I wouldn't blame them for this shooting.

    I see a lot of stories on the news and on the Internet about how the shooting will change the face of politics and people will be more respectful to each other but I have the feeling that it's just a blip, a fad, and the politicians will be back where they were in a few weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aduidarnenye View Post
    That's depressing. It would be a nice change for a politician to man up and take responsibility for something. If one of them said "I'm part of the problem but I'm going to fix myself" I wouldn't blame them for this shooting.

    I see a lot of stories on the news and on the Internet about how the shooting will change the face of politics and people will be more respectful to each other but I have the feeling that it's just a blip, a fad, and the politicians will be back where they were in a few weeks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleveland_7795 View Post
    Where is the original with the misspelled city?

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the...l?wprss=thefix

    Washington Post seems to disagree....
    Yeah I just found out there's versions of this same screenshot running around showing him registered as a Democrat and a Libertarian.

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    http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/...ric#more-18397

    Fantastic article.. I admit I'm feeling quite humbled after reading it. Also, Jon Stewart's intro from last night was really good.

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mo...tings-reaction

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    Rush'll make a ton of money off of that. These shooters are seriously aiming at the wrong targets.

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    I like that while liberals are fighting amongst eachother, some claiming that this attack was assisted by violent political rhetoric while other liberals criticize the previous ones for jumping into conclusions, conservatives in relative unison are claiming the left is out to frame the right for this attack.

    It always seems like the american right and left are playing different games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya View Post
    I like that while liberals are fighting amongst eachother, some claiming that this attack was assisted by violent political rhetoric while other liberals criticize the previous ones for jumping into conclusions, conservatives in relative unison are claiming the left is out to frame the right for this attack.

    It always seems like the american right and left are playing different games.
    The left in-fights because the people who are "at all costs" leftists get assailed by the "the truth matters" leftists. The right only has one of the aforementioned groups.

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    And thus, the right wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya View Post
    And thus, the right wins.
    Yep. Except for when the left does.

    Wrestle with a pig, etc.

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    Your implication however seems to be "fuck the truth" as opposed to "stop lying" though.

    I'm in the other camp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya View Post
    And thus, the right wins.
    I'd say it's time to take your own advice and start proselytizing and towing the ideology line yourself, but it's sort of like asking someone to not think about elephants isn't it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    Your implication however seems to be "fuck the truth" as opposed to "stop lying" though.

    I'm in the other camp.
    I'm of the camp that thinks that the truth often matters, but not always. Truth is especially important depending on context, say an academic discussion. But i draw a distinction between academics and politics.

    In this specific instance, i don't think there are enough links between the killer and the american right-wing to effectively pin the blame on the right, so it doesn't matter.

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