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    Quote Originally Posted by miokomioko View Post
    I already enjoyed XIII in all its three-quarters-of-the-game-is-a-straight-line-tutorial glory.
    I wouldn't say I enjoyed it, but I didn't hate it either, so in some ways, I'm with you.

    A lot of people hate the linearity, but many of them also happen to be the 'omg i must get everything' crowd, and the moment a fork in the road appears they're like, "oshit which path should I take? I don't wanna miss anything!" then they flip open their strategy guide anyway... thats how RPGs have become these days, because everyone wants to do the "perfect game".. and no one wants to waste the time to do the exploring...

    In that sense I kinda liked XIII cos it took that option away from you most of the game and you could pretty much just sit back and enjoy. On Pulse, the moment non-linearity opens up, you realize you don't really know where to go.. and I think it's only possible there because of the way they slot all those character building cutscenes everywhere else in the game - virtually no character development takes place in Chapter 11, except maybe the very beginning, and in the more linear parts of it (like Mah'habara)... so it wasn't entirely linear without a purpose...

    That said, XIII was story driven.. events happen, people react and game plays out.. whereas XIII-2 seems like it will go the player driven way - player decides where to go / what to do, things happen... so you don't need the linearity...

    but you will still need the strategy guide.

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    The player choices and multiple endings might make the game worth playing more than once, which is worlds above what the original could offer.

    Now if only they could have made the battle system a little bit better, because aside from that, no one should expect a great plot or good character development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spira View Post
    virtually no character development takes place in Chapter 11, except maybe the very beginning, and in the more linear parts of it (like Mah'habara)... so it wasn't entirely linear without a purpose...
    To be fair there is plenty of character development even after that point.
    Fang and Vanille get much more focus from chapter 11 onwards, Hope and Sazh stop getting attention because their side-plots were pretty much over, while Lightning and Snow still have their moments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevex View Post
    To be fair there is plenty of character development even after that point.
    Fang and Vanille get much more focus from chapter 11 onwards, Hope and Sazh stop getting attention because their side-plots were pretty much over, while Lightning and Snow still have their moments.
    Moments of making me snore, maybe. Character development.. actual true development.. was few and far between. Snow and Hope were probably two of my least favorite characters in Final Fantasy.. ever and that's counting Cait Sith and Seifer.

    Anyway, this is obviously about FFXIII-2. Sort of wish they'd change the battle style as well, but meh. I beat FFXIII and did like 95% of the sidequest shit, so I'm sure I'll play FFXIII-2 at some point. Won't be a day one buy for me, though. Fuck pre-ordering anything Squeenix ever again.

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    Fuck pre-ordering anything Squeenix ever again.
    Wisest thing said so far.

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    Idk, I'd pre-order Versus right now if it ever got a fucking date.

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    Don't do it. Just try to remember the poor idiots who pre-ordered ffxiv. Imagine how dumb they felt. That's how dumb you'll feel if you pre-order their shit at this point.

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    I dunno why you keep assuming that everyone must feel as disappointed as you are whenever a new SE title is released.
    It almost seems like people who dislike the new games want to dislike them.
    This shit got old after FFX-2.

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    It almost seems like people who dislike the new games want to dislike them.
    No shit, stupid.

    That's the point. Being negative about it, so when the game turns out to be good, you'll be pleasently surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya View Post
    No shit, stupid.

    That's the point. Being negative about it, so when the game turns out to be good, you'll be pleasently surprised.
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    FF13 was awesome (Best battle-system and good Story), FF13-2 will be even better. Allready pre-ordered it and cant wait till 2012 realese!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroikage View Post
    This is why FF fanboys are the cancer.
    That's not really him being a fanboy. A real FF fanboy loves everything Squaresoft and hates everything Square-enix, for good or retarded reasons.

    Or maybe not. The line has definitely blurred in the last decade.

    I won't stop pre-ordering their products, though; one miss-step every decade or so is a risk I'm willing to take.

    But I guess I am the heir to Mioko's throne, amirite?

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    If S-E wanted to completely blow my mind they would announce Super Mario RPG 2 (Not fucking Paper Mario Nintendo), that would actually make me want to buy a WiiU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura View Post
    I really liked Sazh and Vanille together, especially during the Eidolon festival. Nice to see people interact without being overwhelmed by hormones.
    Don't you even! Think you die and that's that? You think die and everything will be sugar and rainbows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyan View Post
    That's not really him being a fanboy. A real FF fanboy loves everything Squaresoft and hates everything Square-enix, for good or retarded reasons.

    Or maybe not. The line has definitely blurred in the last decade.
    I can't say I agree with that, that's my idea of a nostalgiafag... ff soldier is a slightly different thing; I'm pretty sure this guy would gladly die in the name of Final Fantasy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyan View Post
    I won't stop pre-ordering their products, though; one miss-step every decade or so is a risk I'm willing to take.

    But I guess I am the prince to Mioko's throne, amirite?
    Nah, you're cool on that I'd preorder too if I enjoyed their games (note: games, not tutorial tunnels)
    Anyway, once I realized that you're not always serious with the asinine comments you often make, I realized you're a lot more reasonable than you let on. If not for the fact that you troll so much I'd wonder why you wouldn't disassociate yourself with mioko, but you'd be doing yourself a disservice when it comes to fooling unsuspecting posters.

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    Was this interview posted yet?

    http://ps3.rpgsite.net/articles/282-...oper-interview

    Pretty good one imo.

    I can't say I agree with that, that's my idea of a nostalgiafag... ff soldier is a slightly different thing.
    Yeah that sounds more like it I guess, lol.

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    Pretty pumped for this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyan View Post
    Was this interview posted yet?

    http://ps3.rpgsite.net/articles/282-...oper-interview

    Pretty good one imo.



    Yeah that sounds more like it I guess, lol.
    Based on that interview, if what they say is true... I have a feeling this game will indeed be far superior to FFXIII, perhaps an enjoyable game this time around. Fingers are crossed.

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    Definitely seems like a step up from the things they are saying just in terms of how we will be exploring the world this time around. Hopefully some more tweaks are planned for the battle system that they haven't let on yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevex View Post
    Lightning vs Chaos Bahamut video:

    Am I going crazy, or does he say around the 0:28 mark that it takes place after lightning has already killed herself or something? It's really unclear.

    It would make sense, given that the invisible world is where souls supposedly go after you die. Maybe this is common knowledge already?

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