FFXIII-2

[Nevex]

FFVI would have been almost perfect if they got rid of useless characters that have nothing to do with the plot (at the very least: Gau, Umaro, Relm and Gogo) and the plot itself didn't reach a full halt at the beginning of WoR.
In fact, I stopped caring about the plot the instant Kefka stopped showing up.
FFVII made the exact same mistake with Sephiroth (I can't be the only one who hated disc 2's plot disaster).

[The Stig]

FFVII made the exact same mistake with Sephiroth (I can't be the only one who hated disc 2's plot disaster).

The game was actually rather good up until after the Shinra HQ (the serious tone, and the urban if limited environment). Even the playable flashback with a uncontrollable Sephiroth in your party was interesting (I like, as a noob at the game back then, being shown what end-game type powers are like), but then the pace slowed down and things became more open.

I do indeed dislike Disc 2. The glacier was a shitty area and felt more like a dungeon crawl than anything. Everything was just so slow and restricted it really felt stuck (ohnoes linear!!!) until you got to the point where you got Cloud back where it felt less constrained.

[Kaslo]

FFVI would have been almost perfect if they got rid of useless characters that have nothing to do with the plot (at the very least: Gau, Umaro, Relm and Gogo) and the plot itself didn't reach a full halt at the beginning of WoR.
In fact, I stopped caring about the plot the instant Kefka stopped showing up.
FFVII made the exact same mistake with Sephiroth (I can't be the only one who hated disc 2's plot disaster).

Gau had a nice storyline with finding his father.

Relm was interesting for her relationship with Shadow (and a weird glitch if you leave Shadow behind on the floating continent)

[Bregor]

useless characters (Gau, Relm)

wat

For Gau I'm assuming you mean plot-wise, since his story isn't really linked to anyone, and you can't mean using him since he's fucking OP especially early in the game. For Relm... yeah I'm lost, since she's both crucial to the plot lines of Shadow and Strago, and also Control is a nice little ability for learning Lores and other random shit.

[darkepyon]

Everyone knows FF5's where it's at!

*slinks away

[Tyrath]

Wow, look. Everyone has different FF favorites and dislikes. Who would've thought? Why does every FF thread devolve into this argument?

[Elcura]

Wow, look. Everyone has different FF favorites and dislikes. Who would've thought? Why does every FF thread devolve into this argument?

Because Final Fantasy # is the best Final Fantasy ever and if you disagree you're a stupid asshole.

[Odin'sLaw]

yeah 7 or gtfo! what no? >.>;

[Raen Ryong]

The game was actually rather good up until after the Shinra HQ (the serious tone, and the urban if limited environment). Even the playable flashback with a uncontrollable Sephiroth in your party was interesting (I like, as a noob at the game back then, being shown what end-game type powers are like), but then the pace slowed down and things became more open.

I do indeed dislike Disc 2. The glacier was a shitty area and felt more like a dungeon crawl than anything. Everything was just so slow and restricted it really felt stuck (ohnoes linear!!!) until you got to the point where you got Cloud back where it felt less constrained.

I may be biased since it was my first FF (and game of that kind of depth) but I thought that the "openness" and comparative lack of direction was well executed after leaving Midgar for the first time. The (artificial) freedom you now had was a great contrast to the more obviously linear Midgar section, emphasising just how stifling and oppressive Midgar is/was. The rebirth in scope from a very focused and linear progression to a more open ended and ambiguous one reflected the beginning of a new journey and made it feel like a real adventure.

I liked the beginning of Disc 2 because I got very involved with the characters so (MAJOR SPOILERS) when Aerith dies, I too burned with the desire for vengeance. The scale and comparative difficulty of the dungeons basically told me "this isn't Disc 1 anymore, shit is getting real". However, I will agree that the interim where you don't have Cloud feels disjointed.

[Bregor]

(MAJOR SPOILERS) when Aerith dies

bwahahahahahahahaha

[miokomioko]

the interim where you don't have Cloud feels disjointed.

Replaying it recently, I wish I could have more parties without him. I'm just so tired of 1/3 of my party always being him when there's like 8 people to pick from. Story-wise, yeah, it's a little awkward when he's out of comission... but to me it's a breath of fresh air as well as proof that life goes on without him and that the characters have minds of their own.

[Sagacious Sundi]

Everyone knows FF5's where it's at!

This and 9.

[Xno Kappa]

I may be biased since it was my first FF (and game of that kind of depth) but I thought that the "openness" and comparative lack of direction was well executed after leaving Midgar for the first time. The (artificial) freedom you now had was a great contrast to the more obviously linear Midgar section, emphasising just how stifling and oppressive Midgar is/was. The rebirth in scope from a very focused and linear progression to a more open ended and ambiguous one reflected the beginning of a new journey and made it feel like a real adventure.

I liked the beginning of Disc 2 because I got very involved with the characters so (MAJOR SPOILERS) when Aerith dies, I too burned with the desire for vengeance. The scale and comparative difficulty of the dungeons basically told me "this isn't Disc 1 anymore, shit is getting real". However, I will agree that the interim where you don't have Cloud feels disjointed.

Not my favorite FF but I have to agree with this. Once you left the linear Midgar and finally got on the world map, there was a huge sense of "Shit just got real!" open world that FFXIII probably tried to replicate but tacked an extra forty hours of tunnels before it.

[Katlan]

as fun as it was to play XIII-2 at comic con, battle system made me feel like I was playing XIII over again w/ a new story. it felt that identical. The monster doesn't add anything new since they control the same as if it was a person in that PT member slot. It looks shinier though

[Hyan]

as fun as it was to play XIII-2 at comic con, battle system made me feel like I was playing XIII over again w/ a new story. it felt that identical. The monster doesn't add anything new since they control the same as if it was a person in that PT member slot. It looks shinier though

Sounds like they took some inspiration from Sakaguchi then.

[Lordender]

Ya 13-2 sounds meh, more and more I read about it the less excited I get for it. I am way more interested in Versus 13, I mean way more and who knows if that is ever going to come out.

[TummieGaruda]

I passed by the booth at Comic-Con; didn't get a chance to play cause some CosPlay lightning was hogging one of the machines lol. At any rate, it looked like the previous game with some slight tweaks which I am sure has been discussed already. From what I saw, enemy encounters are back to random battles but when the mobs materialize there is a red ring around you and a color bar down at the bottom and you have a specific amount of time to "react" to the situation. I remember Green gave the party bonuses but I didn't really pay attention to the other stuff. The battles themselves looked the same, but there were some active cutscenes in the battle where you have to participate (Press X at a certain time).

Also there appears to be some kind of Anomaly puzzle that you have to solve every now and again. It looked like a grid with platforms that looked like tetris pieces and you had to walk across them. After leaving a square, it would disappear and you had to go from one side of the room to another.

[Apelila]

Random battles? Fuck it, will watch someone else play it.

[miokomioko]

It's randomly materializing mobs (instead of the previously roaming). If you attack them and initiate combat while the timer is green, you get random buffs (haste/protect/shell/bravery/faith/etc.). If you wait until it's yellow, nothing special happens, combat goes on as usual. If you wait until it's red and get attacked by the mob or don't manage to get away fast enough to escape the enemy confrontation by the timer hits zero, you start the battle with random enfeebles (slow/deprotect/deshell/etc.).

I like the system.

[vadre]

I wonder why they changed it from the previous system? I can't see the benefit it adds personally, and it seems kinda weird to go from one to the other between two games.

Are we going to have that cheesy lightning effect spawn adamantoises on us down the line? That would be scary. It may of course not apply to some of the more open areas, but who knows.