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  1. #161
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    I think its obvious where SE is taking the game at this point. Although I do hope they change their minds, they are catering to people who don't give a shit about gear unless its pretty and easy to get.

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    cause BLU SAM THF MNK PUP SCH RDM WAR BST DRK ... .. Pretty much every job but DNC and WHM has pretty AF3 right? shit looks terrible for the most part.

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    BLU SAM look just fine ty.

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    I like DNC AF3, looks classy. BLU AF3 on the other hand, meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightfyre View Post
    I like DNC AF3, looks classy. BLU AF3 on the other hand, meh
    Q.F.T!

    BLM SCH THF DNC MNK COR are the only nice looking ones imo. Rest are just either meh or an outright eye sore (I'm looking at you RDM)

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    Most of the af3 was ok looking until SE revealed the body armour and essentially dropped the ball. Mnk went backwards and had legs that clashed with the set instead.

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    Well, none of it is worse than Goliard at least. Their rather liberal use of the color pallette really makes for some hideous armor.

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    So the easiest form of Synthesis is being called problematic but the old version of synthesis where the random-number generator had a firm clutch on your balls was ok. Yeah....

    Synergy is a joke to level, the synths aren't going to be near cap according to SE and this boils down to more soloable content that people can do in between whatever they have planned next. This screams Dominion Trophies.

    You cant lose anything to Synergy, I see no "versus Peistes: ATT+6, Water resist+10" and you can resynth if the item isn't up to par. So far, Im seeing nothing but appeasement from SE.

    Skill is being brought up in the same thread where people miss old kings. I don't know if I should be laughing or practicing my best facepalm. Nothing like hardmore 5hr Sandworms where it doesn't even load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    So the easiest form of Synthesis is being called problematic but the old version of synthesis where the random-number generator had a firm clutch on your balls was ok. Yeah....

    Synergy is a joke to level, the synths aren't going to be near cap according to SE and this boils down to more soloable content that people can do in between whatever they have planned next. This screams Dominion Trophies.

    You cant lose anything to Synergy, I see no "versus Peistes: ATT+6, Water resist+10" and you can resynth if the item isn't up to par. So far, Im seeing nothing but appeasement from SE.

    Skill is being brought up in the same thread where people miss old kings. I don't know if I should be laughing or practicing my best facepalm. Nothing like hardmore 5hr Sandworms where it doesn't even load.
    I'm pretty sure there's a big chunk of the population that has little too no interest in leveling a craft. On top of that you have no way of knowing whether SE might decide to make you have 2-3 people with level 100 original crafts to augment something like Byakko's Haidate.

    I'm not saying that there isn't still a bunch of people that like crafting. Those people are laughing right now because suddenly they are necessary again. SE should give us options at least more options than spending hrs in Jeuno shouting for a synergist so you can HQ your gear so it's actually useful or spending hrs leveling up a craft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orson View Post
    I'm pretty sure there's a big chunk of the population that has little too no interest in leveling a craft. On top of that you have no way of knowing whether SE might decide to make you have 2-3 people with level 100 original crafts to augment something like Byakko's Haidate.

    I'm not saying that there isn't still a bunch of people that like crafting. Those people are laughing right now because suddenly they are necessary again. SE should give us options at least more options than spending hrs in Jeuno shouting for a synergist so you can HQ your gear so it's actually useful or spending hrs leveling up a craft.
    Either you suck and level synergy to get gear under the current top tier gear, or you don't suck and you get the top tier gear. Read the tweets, this isn't for top tier players, its for more casual players, friendless multi-boxers and the rare person that needs to fill in a slot or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    Either you suck and level synergy to get gear under the current top tier gear, or you don't suck and you get the top tier gear. Read the tweets, this isn't for top tier players, its for more casual players, friendless multi-boxers and the rare person that needs to fill in a slot or two.
    Well I guess you might be right but I have a feeling in true SE fashion a lot of the stuff will be situationally the best. At that point you'll have to make a choice whether you'll want to take the time to bother with synergy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    Either you suck and level synergy to get gear under the current top tier gear, or you don't suck and you get the top tier gear. Read the tweets, this isn't for top tier players, its for more casual players, friendless multi-boxers and the rare person that needs to fill in a slot or two.
    In theory, you are correct. However, this is assuming SE knows what the players deem is the best gear. There are plenty of pieces of af3+2 that quite simply aren't the best piece of gear for the slot. Moreover, shits situational. If you don't think that one of those augmented pieces with the best possible outcomes etched on it will be the best in slot for a given situation then I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I bet you're wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    So the easiest form of Synthesis is being called problematic but the old version of synthesis where the random-number generator had a firm clutch on your balls was ok. Yeah....
    Just curious, who said this?

    This screams Dominion Trophies.
    Which are no better. I don't want to think about the number of trophies I've turned in by now, nor how much time I've put into some of those random augment quests.

    Skill is being brought up in the same thread where people miss old kings.
    By different people, yes.

    Normally I like you but this post is all sorts of dumb

    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    Either you suck and level synergy to get gear under the current top tier gear, or you don't suck and you get the top tier gear. Read the tweets, this isn't for top tier players, its for more casual players, friendless multi-boxers and the rare person that needs to fill in a slot or two.
    Some of this gear is situationally better than AF3+2 even now. If we're talking fulltime gear then I guess SE would be right about AF3+2 being better...? But from a situational standpoint, they're already wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightfyre View Post
    Just curious, who said this?
    Every single person bitching about this new form of augmenting gear.

    Instead of making the Magian Moogle more popular or worse, reusing a FoV system where you have absolutely no control in augmenting gear, you get to actually craft your gear through synergy this go around.

    You can redo it multiple times, you aren't a complete slave to the RNG and you get some minor boosts as promised.

    Like I said, Synergy is piss easy to level and judging from the approach SE is taking with it, the augments are merely just to appease people who feel "wronged" (lol) that top tier gear isn't so top tier anymore.

    Which are no better. I don't want to think about the number of trophies I've turned in by now, nor how much time I've put into some of those random augment quests.
    Again, from the impression SE is giving us, this is just the side-dish on whatever they have planned for post-Abyssea content. This is the "casual" content and more than likely whatever you need to augment the pieces will come as a byproduct of another event.

    Sure, I'll agree with you that Dominion trophy augments can be fucking stupid but who cares? It's the byproduct of doing Abyssea and comes at no real loss to you if you get a bunch of shitty augments.


    By different people, yes.

    Normally I like you but this post is all sorts of dumb
    and you are looking a gift horse in the mouth. All of the data we've gotten from SE has pointed towards this new synergy augmenting as being better than previous augmenting systems.

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    You do realize that we only saw a picture of one piece of gear, right? They specifically said that some of the new gear upgrades would be trial related while others would not. Chances are they still have more in mind for other sets of gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    Every single person bitching about this new form of augmenting gear.

    Instead of making the Magian Moogle more popular or worse, reusing a FoV system where you have absolutely no control in augmenting gear, you get to actually craft your gear through synergy this go around.

    You can redo it multiple times, you aren't a complete slave to the RNG and you get some minor boosts as promised.

    Like I said, Synergy is piss easy to level and judging from the approach SE is taking with it, the augments are merely just to appease people who feel "wronged" (lol) that top tier gear isn't so top tier anymore.
    You're inferring things that aren't there. Dissatisfaction with the current system =/= satisfaction with the old one.

    Again, from the impression SE is giving us, this is just the side-dish on whatever they have planned for post-Abyssea content. This is the "casual" content and more than likely whatever you need to augment the pieces will come as a byproduct of another event.
    Speculation. Given that we're talking about a spammable augment process with results that are random to some degree, I strongly doubt whatever other content may or may not be involved will involve a degree of skill worthy of top-tier gear. However, that is also speculation.

    Sure, I'll agree with you that Dominion trophy augments can be fucking stupid but who cares? It's the byproduct of doing Abyssea and comes at no real loss to you if you get a bunch of shitty augments.
    Opportunity cost. Takes a while to cycle through the whole process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightfyre View Post
    Opportunity cost. Takes a while to cycle through the whole process.
    Surely you can come up with a better reason than, "It takes too long to click."

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    You're all confusing SE. How can they know what the players want when the players don't know what the players want? The solution is to delegate all your question-making to Yugl and his patent-pending Yuglkrieg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyosan View Post
    Surely you can come up with a better reason than, "It takes too long to click."
    ITT: Opportunity cost = takes too long

    Spamming trophies is not enjoyable and takes away from time I could be spending doing something more enjoyable. That's what I said, not "WAAAAAAAAHHHHH THIS TAKES TOO LONG". I don't mind time investments, but I'd rather them not be mind-numbingly dull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightfyre View Post
    ITT: Opportunity cost = takes too long

    Spamming trophies is not enjoyable and takes away from time I could be spending doing something more enjoyable. That's what I said, not "WAAAAAAAAHHHHH THIS TAKES TOO LONG". I don't mind time investments, but I'd rather them not be mind-numbingly dull.
    So what you're saying is that when the 'cost' is the time spent doing something unenjoyable, then the duration of said boredom has nothing to do with the total cost? Can't say I'm following your argument there.

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