Prometheus (June 8, 2012)

[chazzyphizzle]

just a personal anecdote but i've never seen any aliens and i didn't like this just as a stand alone film. to each their own though

[Xno Kappa]

Question - I've never seen any of the Alien movies, are they required to understand a lot of Prometheus?

Should I watch them prior to Prometheus or after?

Just watch them after. Went into Prometheus barely remembering anything from the Alien movies and still found it enjoyable. Re-watched the Alien movies afterwards and besides minor tidbits here and there at the beginning of the first one, it lends absolutely nothing to the film. All the herpderp u need to a be fan to understand is just an exaggeration.

[Chun Liroy]

Just got back from watching it. Enjoyed it in a turn your brain off kind of way. Seemed like it was pretty badly written in my opinion, a lot of parts made absolutely no sense.

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1. What exactly was the "invitation?" Doubt the Engineers wanted to give humans a road map to their military installations. And do we really expect to believe this was enough evidence for a corporation to provide ridiculous funding to it?

2. A trillion dollar several year mission and the majority of scientists there hear what they're doing for the very first time after the fact when briefed at the destination?

3. Charlie getting utterly depressed and drunk about the engineers being all dead, the guy comes to this conclusion after spending twenty minutes on one site in an entire planet.

4. What exactly was David up to the whole time? Was he trying to create his own species? What exactly was his motive?

5. The holograms showing the engineers running to a room filled with the very thing supposedly killing them off. Then when the scientists get there no other bodies were found except for the one decapitated.

6. Generic tough guy geologist Fifeild and his geeky buddy being scared of absolutely everything and then seemingly wanting to play with some weird shit coming out of black ooze.

7. Why was the engineer still in cryostasis? Was he waiting for someone to wake him up so he can go destroy Earth? Kind of doesn't make any sense since he's already in the brig, even during the outbreak he was seemingly safe and could have taken off in the several thousands of years they were there.

8. Charlize Theron was completely pointless in this movie lol. You could have deleted her character and absolutely no difference would have been made to the movie.

9. The engineer chases after Shaw and gets owned by the squid monster at the end and yet, poof, he's right back in the brig on the pilots chair at the beginning of Alien.

Admittedly I don't remember much from the Alien films and I'm giving this movie the benefit of the doubt that the theatrical cut butchered the film. Just think they need to hire better writers and editors if there's ever a sequel.

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1. I doubt it, the engineers probably described where they were to primitive humans, and expecting them to never reach that level of intelligence. Furthermore, it doesn't even matter if they tell people where they were, thousands of years before language was even made (In one case). It was an experimental facility that surely would have been left (and it was left, over 2000 years prior) long before humans were capable of making contact. Additionally, they shouldn't have been able to make it there this quickly in the first place, and was only able to do so due to interaction with another alien race (Predators).

2. Meh. This has been done in movies before "I have organized you all for a specific purpose, but you must agree before you meet your coworkers, and you'll never know the full plan." They were doing a perceived non-dangerous mission for (lots and lots of) money.

3. The guy didn't seem to be very brainy at all, and fairly depressed to begin with. Also a whiny sissy little girl "wah wah we found 1 body in 20 minutes, we came here for nothing"

4. This one I think is an interesting idea, and one that was left out intentionally and make the audience pay attention to figure it out. In my opinion, he seems fueled by the commands of his creator (weyland). Weyland tells him to try harder, so he does just that, and that is his motivation for some things, but he also reveals to shaw that he wants to see his father die.

5. No idea.

6. I feel I can answer this one, but I haven't seen anyone else really explain it the way I see it. You're on an alien planet, you're expecting to find nothing, maybe some grass, but you find a decapitated alien that's oh... 9 feet tall and you don't know how recently it died. The thought of something more intelligent, stronger, bigger and foreign to you is terrifying to them. This is why the biologist is afraid. People complain about him suddenly going from "Get me the fuck out of here with this 9' alien body" to "Ohmygod, look at that threatening snake." That's how these type of people are. You see your first living thing on a foreign planet, and it's not even close to your size to be threatening. You want to observe it and interact with it. I explained that bad, but hopefully you understand what I'm getting at.

7. It wasn't explained, but I also don't think it really matters. It could be a myriad of things, he was in an experiment. He was a pilot and they go into cryogenesis while the scientists worked, and they woke them up when they are ready to leave. He was never woken up when they landed etc. It doesn't really matter in my opinion, just that he was there.

8. Yeah, she was, but I just took it for what it was, lol. It seemed like she could have had a profound impact in the movie, but they just dropped the ball on her character. Her purpose: Distract the captain so those 2 dudes could die, and to brief them on why they're here.

9. Can't answer this because I haven't seen alien since I was little, but there's multiple space ships and planets they experimented on.

Lemme know what you think.

[Chun Liroy]

Having read that review just makes the movie seem even more pretentious and full of shit then it seems. Maybe Ridley should work on a better script with competent editors before making something "2deep brah!" He makes a beautiful movie with a brain dead story I'll give him that. Hopefully the blu-ray actually has the real movie with a coherent plot.

I personally hate that review or "explanation." It shows two cool things about the Titan Prometheus and the other Prometheus reference, and has a couple good points but the guy just gets all ridiculously religious nuts and makes absolutely retarded points.

[Callisto]

I personally hate that review or "explanation." It shows two cool things about the Titan Prometheus and the other Prometheus reference, and has a couple good points but the guy just gets all ridiculously religious nuts and makes absolutely retarded points.

I think the guy's point was that Scott himself did that with the film.

[Vincento]

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My g/f and I were talking about that after we saw it tonight. Our guess was that was them "Seeding" the planet Earth billions of years before. The ship just dropped off an Engineer, they drank the liquid which broke down it's DNA which fell into the water and helped to seed life on Earth.

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I'd go with your explanation, but his DNA looked like it was being destroyed, rather than spread out. If what the captain said had any truth to it, the location they landed on being a failed military testing facility, I took it the ship floating above him was the rest of the people fleeing the island, since he was left behind he was destroying his DNA to keep the shit they made from fusing with it.

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7. It wasn't explained, but I also don't think it really matters. It could be a myriad of things, he was in an experiment. He was a pilot and they go into cryogenesis while the scientists worked, and they woke them up when they are ready to leave. He was never woken up when they landed etc. It doesn't really matter in my opinion, just that he was there.

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The situation seems just like the scientists flight, everyone but David was in cryostasis on the way there. Seems to me the people who were supposed to lead the ship were killed by their own experiments, and the guy who was put in cryo for departure was never woken up because of it.

[Odin'sLaw]

Just got back from watching it. Enjoyed it in a turn your brain off kind of way. Seemed like it was pretty badly written in my opinion, a lot of parts made absolutely no sense.

Spoiler: show

1. What exactly was the "invitation?" Doubt the Engineers wanted to give humans a road map to their military installations. And do we really expect to believe this was enough evidence for a corporation to provide ridiculous funding to it?

2. A trillion dollar several year mission and the majority of scientists there hear what they're doing for the very first time after the fact when briefed at the destination?

3. Charlie getting utterly depressed and drunk about the engineers being all dead, the guy comes to this conclusion after spending twenty minutes on one site in an entire planet.

4. What exactly was David up to the whole time? Was he trying to create his own species? What exactly was his motive?

5. The holograms showing the engineers running to a room filled with the very thing supposedly killing them off. Then when the scientists get there no other bodies were found except for the one decapitated.

6. Generic tough guy geologist Fifeild and his geeky buddy being scared of absolutely everything and then seemingly wanting to play with some weird shit coming out of black ooze.

7. Why was the engineer still in cryostasis? Was he waiting for someone to wake him up so he can go destroy Earth? Kind of doesn't make any sense since he's already in the brig, even during the outbreak he was seemingly safe and could have taken off in the several thousands of years they were there.

8. Charlize Theron was completely pointless in this movie lol. You could have deleted her character and absolutely no difference would have been made to the movie.

9. The engineer chases after Shaw and gets owned by the squid monster at the end and yet, poof, he's right back in the brig on the pilots chair at the beginning of Alien.

Admittedly I don't remember much from the Alien films and I'm giving this movie the benefit of the doubt that the theatrical cut butchered the film. Just think they need to hire better writers and editors if there's ever a sequel.

#1 a lot of people are looking at this like Mass Effect (until told otherwise) if you can find us your a threat to us

#2 easy, when you get interviewed you'd only get the skimmed version of whats going on to interest you (and from what we saw most didn't care what it was just the price tag was worth going)

#3 last forms of life was 2000 years ago no offense but i think anyone would be like "so we traveled this far for THIS DEAD BODY? FFS!" even if you knew you could travel the rest of the planet to take a look around your first response would be a form of sadness (or if your a drunk, to be depressed and drink!)

#4 Wayland seemed to have some ulterior motive to find a "cure for death" and i'm sure david was playing "god" of his own (not sure why he was a weird religious kind of robot)

#5 so the 3rd time I'm putting this, there was another door in the back of the room that no one but charlie knew about because when he was going to say something the pots started leaking

#6 nope weird and he was a disgrace to Scottish people! although your not such a hard guy when your big ass gun is sitting in a big ass ship over a mile away

#7 i'm betting it malfunctioned they could guess how long the aliens would take to die off then they would wake up, presuming the others didn't make it to the pods got eaten inside the pods or died inside the pods, of course the other reason is the ship malfunctioned and didn't launch off to earth/there home planet and the 3rd reason is the same as #1

#8 i agree but her role was just to oversee everything which....she really sucked at :/

#9 as stated above different planet different ship

[Weltall]

Seen it twice, and I am going to see it a third time this week! Can only hope for another :D

Also, Scott already said in an interview the scene at the beginning was to spread life, but he didn't mention which planet it was.

[FNH]

5. The holograms showing the engineers running to a room filled with the very thing supposedly killing them off. Then when the scientists get there no other bodies were found except for the one decapitated.

The geologist and botanist found the other bodies when they were talking to the captain.

9. The engineer chases after Shaw and gets owned by the squid monster at the end and yet, poof, he's right back in the brig on the pilots chair at the beginning of Alien.

The Space Jockey in Alien was already fossilized prior to them reaching that planet and Alien was only a few years after the events of Prometheus, so that jockey was dead before the events of Prometheus.

[Weltall]

Lol..the engineer in Alien isn't even on the same PLANET as the one in Prometheus...people have no idea what they are complaining about and it is hilarious.

[Odin'sLaw]

Lol..the engineer in Alien isn't even on the same PLANET as the one in Prometheus...people have no idea what they are complaining about and it is hilarious.

yup, from what alien tells us the Xeno's we know of had been around for 100+ years (fossilization can happen in a short space of time given the right conditions) the events of Prometheus happened 35 years prior to these films, also the Wiki is stating AVP 1 and 2 are actually Prequels so Xeno's have been around since the late 80's (comic was 1989 screenplay 1990-91 film making was 2002 released in 2004) so idk this is getting messy >.>

[6souls]

http://www.whatis101112.com/

Thus Spoke Zarathustra: A Book for All and None is a philosophical novel by German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche, composed in four parts between 1883 and 1885. Much of the work deals with ideas such as the "eternal recurrence of the same", the parable on the "death of God", and the "prophecy" of the Übermensch, which were first introduced in The Gay Science.

Prometheus viral campaign will run until October 11th when the blu-ray gets released.

[6souls]

Saw Prometheus over the weekend, loved it, and while the only problem I had with the script was that a space captain was such a fan of a hundred-year-old song, there were many other things I was curious about. One of these, the reason "The Engineers'" wish to destroy humanity, has already been answered by director Ridley Scott. His statement comes courtesy of WorstPreviews.

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The film clearly shows that Engineers created life on Earth and then guided humans throughout our development, one day hoping that we would come visit them. But we did something very bad. So bad, that it upset the Engineers. And according to the movie, whatever we did, happened two thousand years ago. The only thing that could be is that we killed Jesus, who apparently was an Engineer as well. Here is a quote from Scott: "If you look at it as an 'our children are misbehaving down there' scenario, there are moments where it looks like we've gone out of control, running around with armor and skirts, which of course would be the Roman Empire. And they were given a long run. A thousand years before their disintegration actually started to happen. And you can say, 'Let's send down one more of our emissaries to see if he can stop it.' Guess what? They crucified him."

To pull another nod to Greek mythology here, this could be a Pandora's box sized problem for many fans of the series for more reasons than one. Let's start with in all the reviews, one of the biggest praises received for the film was its alternate explanation of the creation of our world. The internet came alive with the chimes of the non-religious for the implication of alien Gods. Now to turn around and tell them, "Oh yeah, that's Christianity," would be a shot in the gut I'm sure.

How about the religious perspective? Alien Jesus will undoubtedly get the thumbs down from The Vatican, as well as many other religious organizations. Let's go even further out of our Euro-centrism and think of the slap in the face of excluding other religions. Aliens are invading because the Christian Lord and Savior was put to death?

As I think more though, there is the potential for this to be completely awesome as well. In a pop culture community where we now sit down as a family and watch episodes of Ancient Aliens, this could be the tie-in to really pull people to the theaters.

Will Scott really do it? I think so. In fact the scene with the cross necklace makes even more sense now... Although that might piss off more than a few engineers out of context if she wears that to their home planet.

http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/6/11...is-it-con.html
http://www.worstpreviews.com/headlin...=25119&count=0

[Greedouw]

people not understanding that there are more than one Derelict and more than one space jockey? jesus...

[Judai]

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I'd go with your explanation, but his DNA looked like it was being destroyed, rather than spread out. If what the captain said had any truth to it, the location they landed on being a failed military testing facility, I took it the ship floating above him was the rest of the people fleeing the island, since he was left behind he was destroying his DNA to keep the shit they made from fusing with it.

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The Engineers DNA was first breaking down but as the scene was ending they showed the DNA re-bonding into a new sequence as it floated through the water and then the transition to cells dividing. The general idea is that the Engineer was sacrificing himself to begin new life on another planet. Some people think it was Earth, some think they did this on many planets.

There are a ton of articles/blogs/etc that over analyze this movie and get so much completely fucking wrong and people just lap it up and go omg it makes sense. Like the "Jesus" Alien birth being on Christmas, when it was clearly the day after. People not understanding it was a completely different planet and ship then in Alien, if it had been the same they would have found a bunch of dead humans in the room as well.

[Callisto]

You guys are terribad at using spoiler tags lol

[Moss]

I agree with most of the criticisms but the visuals, especially in imax 3d, were amazing. The movie had a really interesting and creepy atmosphere which was enough to make it entertaining for me.

[Xno Kappa]

First movie I've ever seen in 3D and I thought it was pretty bad ass. Might have to watch more 3D now.

[Kalmado]

I've seen one movie in 3d and it gave me a severe headache so I'll have to skip it. Hopefully will see this on Friday or Saturday.

[Weltall]

Most movies suck in 3D. IMO, the only ones that have got it right were Avatar > Prometheus > Tron. Avatar was far and away the best as far as 3D goes, but Prometheus is is the most all-around gorgeous movie to date.