Final Fantasy XV: Cup Noodle XV Special Edition

[Celeras]

I'm speaking from a gameplay standpoint, yeah?
Take out the online games, FF10 was a huge step forward from the PSX generation and did exceptionally well. FF12 was good in its own right gameplay wise, I just wasn't a fan of the story. 13 might have been pretty linear and boring, and the gameplay was way too easy, but they kind of fixed the impression with 13-2 and 13-3 will probably surprise a lot of people even though Light is the only playable character.

The fact you don't like the direction of their progress towards a more action-esque style doesn't mean it's really failing.
Besides, you're really going to disregard a game and saying how much it stinks from watching a 4-minute trailer? I say give it a chance first. Nomura's team made amazing games in KH1/2, and if this gameplay is anything like them (which it seems to be, except better) then I'm all for it.

In terms of story, I hope it'll deliver, but who knows? They can't really have another shitty character lineup like Serah and Snow, can they? lol.

Never said I wouldn't give it a chance, nor am I trying to convert anybody. I just think their direction fucking sucks, and that this isn't going to help the general perception that their trying to change who they are and miserably failing (agree with it or not, I think its fair to say thats how SE is thought of in the general community that isn't an SE game forum).

Was just wondering if anyone else felt the same as I didn't see the attitude in here that I was expecting. I want JRPGs, and this isn't it.. "story" or not.

[Bregor]

I'd agree with a lot of what Celeras is saying here. Final Fantasies I through IX all had essentially the same framework -- open-world exploration, turn-based or ATB battles, and really interesting plots with strong lead and supporting characters. I don't see why those types of games couldn't succeed in today's climate.

But they have been moving steadily away from that rinse-and-repeat formula. Sort of going with what Exoduso said, X was pretty linear despite being essentially the same schtick, and people loved it. XII was REALLY open-world but Gambits turned some people off, and the main characters were sort of bland. XIII was linear as all get-out, the plot was pretty boring, and there weren't many interesting supporting characters. (I'm not touching XI and XIV because that's apples and oranges.)

After SE's change in leadership, I didn't think it was unreasonable to hope for a return to the earlier days of SquareSoft-era games. But they are plowing forward by moving the series into Assassin's Creed/Uncharted, action-style mechanics. It's encouraging that they have some experience on hand with KH's team, and the XV trailer looks and sounds beautiful. But then again, the XIII trailer was pretty fucking awesome IIRC, and most people didn't like the final product. I guess the most I can say about SE now is that it's good they're all-in on Versus by making it XV, but I wonder if what's coming down the pipeline will even remotely resemble the JRPGs we know and love.

[Exoduso]

The good thing about this is that if Versus turned into "XV", whatever the hell "XV" was, it's now XVI, and is most likely in development, or will be soon now that ARR is pretty much over with and all of their teams and resources will be freed up again.

[Vaspinne]

Wasn't the big reason why FFVXIII/FFXV was pushed back so often time and time again was because they were in fact trying to develop an open world like they had in the original 9 games? And being SE, they had to do it in good graphic fashion, which is why games 10/12/13 never had the big open world because it was too demanding graphically/technologically?

Of course I could be blowing air out of my ass, but for some reason that sounds right. And I for one am all for the new Action RPG, KH style gameplay. I love it, and Nomura does it well so I'm all for it!

[Skidz]

Anyone know if this is exclusive to PS4? I also read on joystiq that this may be coming to PS3, but thats gotta be a mistake.

[Shadowrunner]

Wasn't the big reason why FFVXIII/FFXV was pushed back so often time and time again was because they were in fact trying to develop an open world like they had in the original 9 games? And being SE, they had to do it in good graphic fashion, which is why games 10/12/13 never had the big open world because it was too demanding graphically/technologically?

I still liked how they approached 12. The combat was iffy, you either liked it or you didn't. And I really didn't like the system for unlocking things, which I understand is my own personal taste. But How the areas felt, how it all felt connected? I loved that. Could just be me though.

I'm joining the not-so-happy side. It bodes well, and I'll def. be getting it. But I honestly got tired of the XIII, -2, and soon -3 scene. Was hoping for something completely different. Maybe I missed it? I'm at work so I can't give it a good watch. If I missed it, just ignore me and color me excited. If it is anything like the original KH, I'm sure I'll drop weeks into it.

[Julian]

Well, looks like this will be the first FF I don't purchase. (Not counting 14)

I have a problem with my eyes/head/whatever, where I can't really play games like this very well without getting a headache that pretty much ruins my day within 10-15 minutes or so. It's really depressing. But hey, it didn't look that interesting from the trailer anyway so I doubt I'll be missing out on much.

[Tajin]

If you dont think the trailer was interesting (gameplay aside) then you got issues son.

[Charismatic]

Its Julian, he's known for having issues. Nothing new.
That said, XV is the first offline FF game that I'll be EXCITED to be able to play. Woulda been Type-0 but it never got a localization announcement.

[Eagleheart]

Type 0 doesn't exist. It is naught but a myth, perpetuated by the Japanese to have a good, harmless little joke on the Americans.

They would not really withhold such a gem. They would not do that to us.

>_>

Or so I tell myself. ; ;

[Skai]

Remember when Square said they were trying to move Final Fantasy combat closer to Advent Children's style of action? Awww yeaaah!!

[Burningthought]

Never said I wouldn't give it a chance, nor am I trying to convert anybody. I just think their direction fucking sucks, and that this isn't going to help the general perception that their trying to change who they are and miserably failing (agree with it or not, I think its fair to say thats how SE is thought of in the general community that isn't an SE game forum).

Was just wondering if anyone else felt the same as I didn't see the attitude in here that I was expecting. I want JRPGs, and this isn't it.. "story" or not.

I'm sure later on down the road SE will bounce back to their roots just like they did with FFIX when FF was getting too scifi/modern, it's just a matter of when.

[Odin'sLaw]

i enjoy how pretty much everyone said 13 versus has become 15 and look it did! but that aside, Gimme gimme gimme baby

[Tyrath]

It's as if the entire FF brand was all about trying new things and redefining the series with each installment. There is no such thing as a "traditional" FF because FF is all about dropping all previous methods and trying out new things. If it wasn't, every FF after 7 would've been the exact same.

[Weltall]

If you dont think the trailer was interesting (gameplay aside) then you got issues son.

He for sure has issues because that was the best FF trailer I've ever seen. I haven't been this excited for a FF since 7.

[Lucavi]

I said all this about XIII, Day 1ed it, played hardcore until Gran Pulse, haven't touched it since. I'm going to hang back and watch from the shadows for a few days after launch. Since its single player, I'm missing absolutely nothing by waiting, but I'm sick of getting burned on main-line FF titles.

This doesn't mean I agree with Celeras, because I don't. At all. I don't want JRPGs; at least, I don't want the modern wide-eyed Anime-slathered 12-year-old boy saves the world with a cast of girls wearing frilly outfits JRPGs that seem to get churned out regularly. It doesn't mean I want "western" RPGs either, with their obsessions with guns, filthy people and the color brown. What I want will never come back, and I understand that. Its why I play the originals and don't spend money buying too many modern RPGs. XIII was the last one I've bought, and will be for quite some time, at this rate, especially considering SE can't seem to do a proper FFT.

[Tyrath]

Wait you left XIII at the only part where it got good? Wat.

[Lucavi]

Oh I grinded for awhile; got some nice levels and such, but I lost complete interest in the plot at that point and remembered that I had other games to play, so I played those and never looked back, and never had a pang of desire to go back. I treated XII the same; loved the early game, loved the mid game, got bored silly of the plot close to the end, grinded, became strong, then lost interest because I didn't care about the resolution.

Coincidentally, neither of the endings nor boss fights for either game were really anything spectacular, looking back, so I absolutely don't feel as if I missed out on anything.

[Niiro]

I saw a trailer that was half CGI and half of what looked like scripted gameplay sequences.

I see nothing worth getting excited about, based on that video I don't even know what kind of game this is supposed to be.

13 looked awesome, sucked ass. 14 looked awesome, sucked ass. The amount of excitement over a flashy trailer like this just makes me wonder how so many goldfish are able to operate keyboards.

Making a game look good has never been an issue with SE.

[Eagleheart]

I might actually try out XII-III. Wow, that sounds like an Antican NM.

o.O Whomever was not impressed with the XV trailer must live on a very nice planet where all the doctors are ninjas, trees are helicopters, everyone has their own jet-turbine motorcycle for going to and coming from work, which consists of slicing apart minions of the abyss to get at the delectable candy inside, with their very own private cheer squad consisting of a baker's dozen clones of Denise Milani, because that was just the best bloody trailer for any game in many long years.

( O.o) No idea why anyone would have found it stale.

EDIT: Niiro is apparently a resident of that very awesome world that I wish I lived in. Alas, I am stuck on Earth. I shall content myself with XV trailers and the like, I suppose.