Final Fantasy XV: Cup Noodle XV Special Edition

[Lonely]

Everyone mention emphasis on gameplay over realistic animations and graphics (fuck your poison heart clench stun locking and no defending on demand), playable party members and/or high party customization, remapping controls like R2/L2 attack/defend, less press X for everything (If you played Dragon Age: Inquisition you should already know the struggle), and a faster more responsive camera especially for lock on and bigger zoom out.

[Tyrath]

I wanted more than one of the wallpapers

Anyone get the Ignis set that wants to share? I got Gladiofgegerhns set.

[Elcura]

Was there an actual gameplay survey? You can talk about voice acting and localization all you want but all I really need is a fun game that doesn't frustrate me.

[Katlan]

You all can complain about the Casting all you want but there is no way that will change. Its clear they have already begun English voice overs and there is next to no way they will recast and redo everything thus far. Best you can accomplish is maybe more personality in the dialogue.

But I would be reserving your comments for stuff like lock-on, parry, camera, since that they will pay much more attention to over something there is a 1% chance they will change

[Destinye]

Plus it's still a demo and such so there's a good chance they've already been doing tweaks to the core systems so it's definitely something they'd look at. Voice acting wise..eh english is always extremely hit or miss and no middleground, so that won't change. Mass Effect series is the only one to be honest that I could actually stand and even enjoy at times. But largely..I still prefer Japanese VA, especially in RPGs with VA. Not that it's "better" but because it has a lot better direction being the native and all.

VA overall improved since the 80s/90s, but still a ways to go.

[Kalmado]

Plus it's still a demo and such so there's a good chance they've already been doing tweaks to the core systems so it's definitely something they'd look at. Voice acting wise..eh english is always extremely hit or miss and no middleground, so that won't change. Mass Effect series is the only one to be honest that I could actually stand and even enjoy at times. But largely..I still prefer Japanese VA, especially in RPGs with VA. Not that it's "better" but because it has a lot better direction being the native and all.

VA overall improved since the 80s/90s, but still a ways to go.

I watched the below video about voice acting. If anyone didn't find Joel and Ellie top notch I just don't know what to say. Same with Vaas. John Marston (Red Dead Redemption) was a favorite of mine as well, but I love westerns too.

[Charismatic]

TLoU voice acting was pretty solid. Its actually mostly the VAs they have voicing over Japanese games that seem to be kinda... eh.
At least that's how I see it.

[Vaspinne]

The KH VA was pretty top-notch too. But then again, when you're backed by Disney and have people like Leonard Nimoy, Christopher Lee and Mark Hamill doing voice-overs for your games, it's pretty hard to fuck that up lol

[Ardrial]

I watched the below video about voice acting. If anyone didn't find Joel and Ellie top notch I just don't know what to say. Same with Vaas. John Marston (Red Dead Redemption) was a favorite of mine as well, but I love westerns too.

Troy Baker is such a great Voice Actor. He's also in soooooooo many games.

[Kalmado]

TLoU voice acting was pretty solid. Its actually mostly the VAs they have voicing over Japanese games that seem to be kinda... eh.
At least that's how I see it.

That's how I feel about it too. I've mentioned this in the Last Remnant thread, but when I first fired that game up and they spoke my wife looked at me with the "the fuck is this retarded shit" look. I've given my screen that look as well with similar games where I think to myself "how did anyone think this was a good idea" when I hear the VA.

edit: Just my 2 cents, but when a games VA is great, it's a way to make an otherwise dull, boring, whatever game an incredible experience because it can really add to the story. On the flip side, even when a game is great, when the VA is terrible it can be a quick turn off to the player wanting to continue. I kind of think FFX-2 had this issue (although the narrative was pretty bad, but the gameplay and what not was awesome).

[Madeline]

>Put in Code
>Website is glitched during the second question and the full survey isn't displaying nor can I hit next. (Probably noscript.)
>Refresh to fix/try another browser
>This code has already been used to do the survey.

OKAY THEN

same shit happened to me lol, so much for telling them what i thought of it.

[Uzor]

What bothers me with the FF games is that they translate it almost TOO literal from Japanese to English. Like, if they say something in Japanese, they do these weird "pauses" even in the English version. "Let's... Just go... to... there" which makes it sound extremely awkward.

[Katlan]

What bothers me with the FF games is that they translate it almost TOO literal from Japanese to English. Like, if they say something in Japanese, they do these weird "pauses" even in the English version. "Let's... Just go... to... there" which makes it sound extremely awkward.

[Burningthought]

What bothers me with the FF games is that they translate it almost TOO literal from Japanese to English. Like, if they say something in Japanese, they do these weird "pauses" even in the English version. "Let's... Just go... to... there" which makes it sound extremely awkward.

They kinda explained this with some of the FFXIV trailers but basically the cutscenes are done in Japanese and tailored to Japanese lip sync first. Then after that they have to do the English stuff and it ends up being shorter or longer and they have to compensate because the cutscene isn't going to be redone.

FFXV will have English lip syncing but you might still get some of this stuff for the pre-rendered cutscenes.

I think the only way they will get close to TLoU is if they have all the VA do motion capture performances. If they are getting fed lines in a vocal booth I doubt we'll see a comparable performance and with the demo i'm not holding my breath. They can still fix some localization choices like Ignis being super duper formal in English but more "bro" in Japanese.

Right now it kinda seems like this is Ignis's day job is to be Noctis's bitch, instead of a life long friend.

[Salodin]

Am I the only one who never had a problem with the Tidus/Yuna laughing scene? They're literally supposed to laugh out loud, and Yuna even says "You probably shouldn't laugh any more...". I thought it was a great scene, and not because of how ridiculous laughing out loud like that is.

[Uzor]

They kinda explained this with some of the FFXIV trailers but basically the cutscenes are done in Japanese and tailored to Japanese lip sync first. Then after that they have to do the English stuff and it ends up being shorter or longer and they have to compensate because the cutscene isn't going to be redone.

FFXV will have English lip syncing but you might still get some of this stuff for the pre-rendered cutscenes.

I think the only way they will get close to TLoU is if they have all the VA do motion capture performances. If they are getting fed lines in a vocal booth I doubt we'll see a comparable performance and with the demo i'm not holding my breath. They can still fix some localization choices like Ignis being super duper formal in English but more "bro" in Japanese.

Right now it kinda seems like this is Ignis's day job is to be Noctis's bitch, instead of a life long friend.

I know why it happens, I'm just saying that's why FF voice acting is so bad. It's not the VA's fault, they're just doing what they're told. TLoU, Uncharted etc. were all done in English first, so naturally it'll be good in English. The FF games all sound more natural in Japanese, which is why a lot of people want to play it with the original Japanese voices.

Speaking of, how is TLoU in Japanese?

[ArchDizzle]

Other then Cidneys accent sounding like an older southern woman and needing to sound younger I thought the VA in the demo was pretty good.. Prompto has the awkward voice to go with his character, ignis looks like he sounds (and reminds me of Balthier so fuck ya). The dialogue for the most part fit and felt more natural then previous games to me. Guess i'm in the minority.

[Uzor]

I liked the VA in the demo tbh, I had no problem with it. But it's hard to judge from a demo with barely any cutscenes at all. The problem is that SE doesn't seem to give a fuck about the quality of VA outside of the Japanese ones.

[Vincento]

Am I the only one who never had a problem with the Tidus/Yuna laughing scene? They're literally supposed to laugh out loud, and Yuna even says "You probably shouldn't laugh any more...". I thought it was a great scene, and not because of how ridiculous laughing out loud like that is.

You're not alone, people just fucking love to quote that video.

Demo has been great so far. I do wish blocking and maneuvering in the battles was a bit more fluid like KH - it's not exactly what I expected.

[Burningthought]

I know why it happens, I'm just saying that's why FF voice acting is so bad. It's not the VA's fault, they're just doing what they're told. TLoU, Uncharted etc. were all done in English first, so naturally it'll be good in English. The FF games all sound more natural in Japanese, which is why a lot of people want to play it with the original Japanese voices.

Speaking of, how is TLoU in Japanese?

I dunno. Good question though, gonna go find out.

Edit: Here's the same scene in both Japanese and English.

Japanese:

https://youtu.be/yY7NId983eU?t=3m4s

English:

https://youtu.be/nGQM0yzg2Jk?t=2h51m34s

When Ellie checks out the Giraffe before this scene begins she says in English "So fucking cool" and in Japanese she just says "konnichiwa". I'm not going to go through the entirety of TLoU and see what other changes they made, but they may have altered her personality a bit in the Japanese dub. This scene ends at the same time in both languages so I don't really know if they had to add more or less stuff to compensate in other scenes. You could ask Slycer if he's played TLoU in both languages. I'm studying Japanese but i'm no where close to fluent. I can pick up a few words or sentences every now and then though.

I believe for the English dub they did the lip syncing by hand by watching the mocap videos to match it up. The Japanese lip syncing is kinda okay in this scene, not sure if it looks worse in others.