X-Men: First Class (June 3, 2011) (MC: 65, RT: 86%)

[Dimmauk]

Where are they selling monocles in bulk for all you fucks

J-BRUCE

LOL.

[Vagrant]

this bothered me a lot actually. I said it to my friend sitting next to me as it happened. I guess it was to build up Shaw as a dangerous person, but then why even have Darwin as a character when you can have so many other mutants?

Also, the funniest thing I ever heard someone say about the Darwin in the comics was something like "Why is he black if he can adapt? There has to be an easier way to live."

See while they say he's dead in the movie he was also believed dead in the comics for years also but eventually managed to put himself back together. I can see this being the same thing in the movies if they decide to bring the character back.

or I guess Havok is Cyclops' father in this iteration)?

Don't think so. Cyclops is seen while Xavier is using the cerebro and looks to be close to Havok's age so if anything I would say they just swapped the older/younger brother roles for the two of them.

[FNH]

Don't think so. Cyclops is seen while Xavier is using the cerebro and looks to be close to Havok's age so if anything I would say they just swapped the older/younger brother roles for the two of them.

Ya Cyclops is the canonical older brother to havok and vulcan.

[SamanosukeShiva]

Spoiler: show

I love how in the scene where the CIA place got broken into by the mutants, kevin bacon did a speech with a sentence that ended with "slavery", and suddenly the camera turned into the black guy.

The whole theatre was laughing

[The_OG_Nelta]

I realize after being temp-banned for my previous rant that I should have been more specific with my disdain (though, I am sure no one cares haha), but here is something I wrote after I had more time to think about what really bothered me about the movie:

Spoiler: show

What I can say about the movie is that there are hardly any scenes in this movie that are not boring because they are complete and utter rehashes of scenes that have appeared (sometimes in their entirety) in the previous films. There are several plot lines that are heavily featured in this movie that were tied up nicely in the first 3 movies that it is a wonder they needed to make this movie at all.

Here are just some similarities between First Class and the rest of the franchise:

- A plotline involving an outcast mutant trying to decide if she should love or hate herself for being different (Rogue in original/Mystique in FC).

- Several scenes involving dialogue between Professor X and Magneto that solely focuses on whether or not humans are "equal" to mutants.

- An action scene wherein the X-Jet and all those aboard are put in danger by tornados.

- An action scene wherein a teleporting mutant dispatches armed CIA agents.

- A scene wherein the moral/ethical aspects of using cerebro are discussed.

- A scene wherein two mutants discuss whether or not they should use a "cure" to solve their mutant problem.

- A long scene wherein mutants are immediately recruited immediately after cerebro is used.

- A scene wherein during an action sequence a mutant is falling to their death only to be saved by a teleporting mutant porting them away at the last second.

- Several scenes wherein Mystique discusses at large whether or not she is "beautiful" in her true form or if she should be in her Rebecca Romijn form.

-A scene wherein a person is falling to their death, only to be saved at the last second by a mutant who had only just learned to fly about 2 scenes ago.

... just to name a few.

The characters are equally as uninspired. I didn't care whether the fairy died, I didn't care when Darwin died, I didn't care whether the CIA agent died, I didn't care if the teleporter died, I didn't care if diamond girl died because the movie didn't make me care about them as characters.

As far as abilities go, I don't know if they were trying to use familiar powers so that we would feel a sense of familiarity and thus not need appropriate backstory/development for characters we never see again, but it got very annoying seeing all the mutants with exactly the same powers as the original trilogy's mutants.

There was:

- A mutant who shot energy blasts from his body (ala Cyclops)

- A mutant shown turning his body into metal (ala Collosus)

- A mutant who uses super sonics (ala A mutant shown in the climactic battle in The Last Stand)

- A mutant with colored skin, tattoos, and a tail who can teleport (ala Nightcrawler)

- A mutant who can produce wind storms (ala Storm)

- A mutant who can block Professor X's telepathic powers (ala Colonel Stryker's son in X2)

- A mutant who felt sub-human for her ability (ala Rogue)

- A mutant who could shoot fire balls (ala The fireball shooting dick from X2)

Another thing I hated was that as a movie depicted as a character study of Magento and Prof. X as developing friends, their polarized points of view were established from the very beginning and never changed or grew throughout the movie. Magento is shown to have always hated humans and wanted to subjugate them, and Professor X has always liked humans and wanted to protect them. They meet up with these views from the beginning, there isn't a point in the film where they start to deviate, setting up their future friends as friends who disagree about what to do about the "human problem".

Professor X never has a scene where he doubts a human initially and then witnesses their penchant for good and is inspired to protect and co-exist with them (or some other such scene that would help establish his point of view). He just always wants to live peacefully with humans. Again, where's the growth?

The storyline involving the Cuban Missle Crisis was very poorly done, I felt, and really detracted from the menace of Sebastion Shaw. The movie never shows him do anything truly ruthless aside from killing Magneto's mother and Darwin. When he meets with the two arms specialists about missile placement in order to instigate the war, all he does is say "Hey, yeah, so put your missiles here, or I might get mad, ok?" and they say "Oh, ok, no worries". It all seemed too easy to accomplish, and thus didn't seem so significant.

How did Banshee fly while carrying Havok? Why did they decide there should be no pay off with regards to Sebastion Shaw holding onto a nuclear reactor core and storing up its power for a considerable time?

Also, Beast looks like a freaking Carebare Cousin, and has all of the menace of a stuffed animal.

Shut the fuck up

[Delirium]

so I was bored as fuck during my class tonight and I was thinking about this movie. More specifically how, if this is a trilogy, Magneto will probably be the villain in the third. Having him as the major villain in 4 of the 6 movies would be overkill(Stryker and Shaw being the other 2). The obvious choice for a villain would be Sentinels with Trask and/or Lang working on them. The X-Men and the Brotherhood would have to band together to fight them off. The other interesting possibility would be Selene. They could have Selene attack and kill humans, draining their life. Prof X realizes it is a mutant and asks Magneto for help; Magneto brushes him off believing dead humans dont matter. However, Selene begins attacking mutants and so they team up to stop her.

A lot of the other villains don't really make sense for various reasons(Shadow King, Mojo, Apocalypse, etc).

The other possibility is they fight in the second and then have to team up for someone like Apocalypse in the third, since there have been rumors of a Cable movie for a long time and that would be a good way to have a spinoff.

[Kaslo]

Sentinels for the second one, and about Magneto building his brotherhood, possibly Xavier and Magneto both courting mutants (explaining them both visiting young jean)

[Dimmauk]

Spoiler: show

I love how in the scene where the CIA place got broken into by the mutants, kevin bacon did a speech with a sentence that ended with "slavery", and suddenly the camera turned into the black guy.

The whole theatre was laughing

LOL

[Hirronimus]

I lost it to nostalgia. Pulled out my entire X collection out of the closet and was browsing through entire series. Any idea where I can read post-Operation Zero Tolerance? I stopped at that point cause spin-offs were just getting stupid.

[Sunrider]

Operation Zero Tolerance had such potential, but such an anti-climax (if noble) ending.

[Ohemgee]

I realize after being temp-banned for my previous rant that I should have been more specific with my disdain (though, I am sure no one cares haha), but here is something I wrote after I had more time to think about what really bothered me about the movie:

Spoiler: show

What I can say about the movie is that there are hardly any scenes in this movie that are not boring because they are complete and utter rehashes of scenes that have appeared (sometimes in their entirety) in the previous films. There are several plot lines that are heavily featured in this movie that were tied up nicely in the first 3 movies that it is a wonder they needed to make this movie at all.

Here are just some similarities between First Class and the rest of the franchise:

- A plotline involving an outcast mutant trying to decide if she should love or hate herself for being different (Rogue in original/Mystique in FC).

- Several scenes involving dialogue between Professor X and Magneto that solely focuses on whether or not humans are "equal" to mutants.

- An action scene wherein the X-Jet and all those aboard are put in danger by tornados.

- An action scene wherein a teleporting mutant dispatches armed CIA agents.

- A scene wherein the moral/ethical aspects of using cerebro are discussed.

- A scene wherein two mutants discuss whether or not they should use a "cure" to solve their mutant problem.

- A long scene wherein mutants are immediately recruited immediately after cerebro is used.

- A scene wherein during an action sequence a mutant is falling to their death only to be saved by a teleporting mutant porting them away at the last second.

- Several scenes wherein Mystique discusses at large whether or not she is "beautiful" in her true form or if she should be in her Rebecca Romijn form.

-A scene wherein a person is falling to their death, only to be saved at the last second by a mutant who had only just learned to fly about 2 scenes ago.

... just to name a few.

The characters are equally as uninspired. I didn't care whether the fairy died, I didn't care when Darwin died, I didn't care whether the CIA agent died, I didn't care if the teleporter died, I didn't care if diamond girl died because the movie didn't make me care about them as characters.

As far as abilities go, I don't know if they were trying to use familiar powers so that we would feel a sense of familiarity and thus not need appropriate backstory/development for characters we never see again, but it got very annoying seeing all the mutants with exactly the same powers as the original trilogy's mutants.

There was:

- A mutant who shot energy blasts from his body (ala Cyclops)

- A mutant shown turning his body into metal (ala Collosus)

- A mutant who uses super sonics (ala A mutant shown in the climactic battle in The Last Stand)

- A mutant with colored skin, tattoos, and a tail who can teleport (ala Nightcrawler)

- A mutant who can produce wind storms (ala Storm)

- A mutant who can block Professor X's telepathic powers (ala Colonel Stryker's son in X2)

- A mutant who felt sub-human for her ability (ala Rogue)

- A mutant who could shoot fire balls (ala The fireball shooting dick from X2)

Another thing I hated was that as a movie depicted as a character study of Magento and Prof. X as developing friends, their polarized points of view were established from the very beginning and never changed or grew throughout the movie. Magento is shown to have always hated humans and wanted to subjugate them, and Professor X has always liked humans and wanted to protect them. They meet up with these views from the beginning, there isn't a point in the film where they start to deviate, setting up their future friends as friends who disagree about what to do about the "human problem".

Professor X never has a scene where he doubts a human initially and then witnesses their penchant for good and is inspired to protect and co-exist with them (or some other such scene that would help establish his point of view). He just always wants to live peacefully with humans. Again, where's the growth?

The storyline involving the Cuban Missle Crisis was very poorly done, I felt, and really detracted from the menace of Sebastion Shaw. The movie never shows him do anything truly ruthless aside from killing Magneto's mother and Darwin. When he meets with the two arms specialists about missile placement in order to instigate the war, all he does is say "Hey, yeah, so put your missiles here, or I might get mad, ok?" and they say "Oh, ok, no worries". It all seemed too easy to accomplish, and thus didn't seem so significant.

How did Banshee fly while carrying Havok? Why did they decide there should be no pay off with regards to Sebastion Shaw holding onto a nuclear reactor core and storing up its power for a considerable time?

Also, Beast looks like a freaking Carebare Cousin, and has all of the menace of a stuffed animal.

This guy gets an A+ Woosh

[aduidarnenye]

I really liked this movie. I was pleasantly surprised because I wanted to see the new Pirates movie, not this (next week will see Pirates). Very good story. Simple but solid, which is my favourite kind of story line for actiony movies. Excellent acting. The relationship between Professor X and Magneto was spot on. The woman playing Moira was excellent. The special effects were awesome (I only thought that the Beast's make up was cheesy looking). And the cameos were absolutely perfect. I wish the team who put this movie together had had their hands on the original X-Men movie series so it didn't get turned into the travesty it got turned into.

Plus, Kevin Bacon was really really good. I was really surprised at how good he was in that role.

[isladar]

Plus, Kevin Bacon was really really good. I was really surprised at how good he was in that role.

I remember from the stills that were first posted having an immediate "Uh, NO" reaction to Kevin Bacon. He was phenomenal in this film.

[The_OG_Nelta]

I liked him in hollow man.

[Headspace]

I used to watch hollow man as a wee lad for the tits

J-BRUCE

[WahiGuard]

Plus, Kevin Bacon was really really good. I was really surprised at how good he was in that role.

Seriously when has Kevin Bacon never delivered? >.>

[Souj]

Seriously when has Kevin Bacon never delivered? >.>

Hollow Man was pretty terrible. But that goes for the movie and I don't really remember his acting.
Coincidentally, in that movie his name was Sebastian as well!

[Odesseiron]

It's all about Tremors. Love that shit.

[Omniyoji]

I think he was superb in JFK and also yes this movie is awesome.

[KaiyenKaiser]

This movie was surprisingly good. I personally think it was the best one so far. I hope they can keep this going.