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  1. #301
    Relic Horn
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    Well we've already seen what happens when SE tries something just for the sake of being different. Some things just aren't broken.

    Then you have to ask yourself how many different forms of combat are there? I look at it as you either have FFXI, WoW, or TERA combat without going turn based. I suppose you could throw Darkfall into there but the whole first person thing bugs me personally.

  2. #302
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    Well, I've seen features that were doomed from the beginning, and features that didn't receive proper polishing due to rushed release and as such leave much to be desired.

    The combat here can become a whole different beast if SE worked on it, from a strategic perspective (closer to turn based game, but not quite). It can also be turned into WoW combat. But because TERA is coming in the near future, and SE sure as hell won't take the game that far combat wise, I'm not sure if that's the smartest thing to do. Obviously if there's something else to make up for the differences it's alright (FF games do and have done pretty well even with subpar gameplay). Each approach has its risks.

    Even if Kingdom Hearts gameplay locks you in place for most animations (BBS did at least), it's still fun. Obviously fluid movement is better for action game, but it's not a "must" prerequisite. I'd say it can even be used to create more strategic situations (like whether you should use a certain skill knowing it takes 2 seconds to finish) if done properly.

  3. #303
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    There's a lot of bawing in this sector... -_-

  4. #304
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    Bleh. For the love of God if only I could go back in time and get my hour and half back. For anyone else foolish enough to happen upon this thread I'll save you the trouble.

    Tl;dr

    New director finally gives some insight into what he's been planning and doing with the poll info.

    People start bitching about jump.
    People then bitch about class name changes.
    Hyan trolls a few pages.
    Lucavi plays devils advocate for a few pages. (Also trolling)
    Last few pages are Hyan and Elrina e-pissing on each other (Literally 3 or 4 pages of this....)

    P.S
    This site is almost completely useless now.

  5. #305
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    Quote Originally Posted by CasualPlayer View Post
    People start bitching about jump.
    People then bitch about class name changes.
    Hyan trolls a few pages.
    Lucavi plays devils advocate for a few pages. (Also trolling)
    Last few pages are Hyan and Elrina e-pissing on each other (Literally 3 or 4 pages of this....)

    P.S
    This site is almost completely useless now.
    You just explained almost every thread on these forums.

  6. #306
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    "almost" completely useless? completely usless, period. You cannot get any info on the game in this site, that is not available earlier on others.

  7. #307
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    Eh, it'll get better if it needs to. Right now it's really meaningless since the game is living on a borrowed time as is.

  8. #308
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    3/4's of the people who mattered in the XI community either don't give a shit about this game or won't bother with it until PS3 release.

    Most of the people lumbering through BG's XIV section now are tryhards that couldn't grab their e-spotlight in XI that are busting ass to accomplish Grindan Awardz for notoriety.

    ...while somehow not noticing that no one cares but other tryhards.


  9. #309
    The Defense is ready, Your Honor
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    ^ The face of horror, truly.

  10. #310
    the whitest knight u' know
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazytowner View Post
    the people who mattered in the XI community
    lol? People that matter? What does that bullshit even mean? Math kids?

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    Back on topic guys. You have your troll and flame thread, take it there.

  13. #313
    XI was, and will always be, better.
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    lol reading all this got me excited, so i logged on to do some exp

    i fall through the ground and get killed by sand yarzons while i cant move lol

  14. #314
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    If I had a dollar for every time SE wrote "rest assured" in regards to the future of their MMOs, and a penny for everyone who was immediately instinctively less assured as a result, I would be rich enough to pay SE to stop making shitty games.

  15. #315
    The Defense is ready, Your Honor
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    They -do- use that term quite a lot. Rest assure, however, that they're fully intent on delivering this time around.

  16. #316
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    Right now it's really do or die for SE, they cant afford to half ass those next updates. Also, if Yoshi delivers that will make his career, I think he fully understands that.

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    absolutely. his head is on the chopping block right now. if he pulls this off, the man deserves a fucking reward.

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    Information on the game is sparse for mainly one of two reasons:

    1) No one plays this game or
    2) anyone with information on a fight doesn't want to share it.

    Personally I am struggling with number two. Unfortunately there isn't exactly much that is a secret in this game generally speaking. I want to contribute a lot to the community but right now anything and everything is all about filling in those "needs confirmation" bits about the faction leve armor, NM pop/depop conditions and incapacitation crap. You'd think that the mobs pop, and are inevitably killed, enough times that these things would be public by now. So I think people are just holding back so they can "monopolize" drops or some silly idea like that. I don't blame em though. SE could go a long way in this regard by being less mysterious about their shit too.

    Who will break the ice first is anyone's guess. But it needs to be done eventually for the growth of the community as a whole. Then people on these boards might care to contribute as a result.

  19. #319
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    I just wish there was a single wiki that is up to date instead of all the shitty ones that no one bothers with anymore. Sure if the game ever gets up again there will be interest in developing one again but there's still a lot to catch up on. Lots of info is out there (on this forum as well) but it's all over the place, so it's not much of a use.

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    Don't be fooled. All the information and data is out there spread across dozens of private forums (IGC boards are one of em too, I admit). People need to just put it all in one place. BG could be that place, but like I said, no one's willing to break the ice about anything out of selfishness or what-have-you. Human nature.

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