Auto Translate Terms: What Could Be Useful/What Should Go?

[Celebrindor]

We all know its not gonna be mothballed (PS2). However, is there any reason to simply stop updates for it?

"Hey sorry, you're playing on an outdated system for this type of gaming experience. Your shit is full."

"But I love my PS2's slow download times and living on the edge of a HD failure with no Sony support for a new one!"

"Too bad. Enjoy what you have now, we're releasing a new expansion for PC/360 that will actually fit on those systems."

Sorry, but its high time to do that. Then all these discussions of what to cut/add will be kaput.

[Yugl]

They would probably say "Outdated system for an outdated game" and be correct.

[Celebrindor]

doh. point taken. point. taken.

[rog]

3. "It's not wrong, it just doesn't mean what it says in a majority of interpretations". Great. What's the point of autotranslate again? To convey a meaning in a language we know nothing about?

It's not the best wording, and should be changed, however it is not wrong. But yeah. Should be changed. Not removed.

[Byrthnoth]

I want the ability to unambiguously ask JPs if they'll let me proc Red !! Weakness for them. That won't happen, but I could autotranslate a color, maybe I could get my message across better.

{Discernment} {Tuesday}{Color}!! {Weapon Skill} isn't cutting it.

[rog]

Why use tuesday and not just fire?

And i'd be kind of surprised if that didn't get your point across, even with using fire to mean red.

[millionsknives]

Take out:
Please forgive me
You're welcome
What's the battle plan
I see
I'm playing Solo right now
I'm sorry; I'm busy now
Full Attack
Heal (Or Healing!)
Jumping to new area
Standing by
Campaign Battle

These are all pretty useful. And even removing stuff like [In what order shall we do we do our WS] is a bad idea.

I would concur we've needed [why?] for years though

[Yugl]

Of those, the most striking one you want to keep is "Full Attack". Why? We have "everyone" and "attack" already.

[grevenilvec75]

{let's take turns} if it hasnt been mentioned already

[ryskar]

{let's take turns} if it hasnt been mentioned already

It sounds good on paper, but I haven't yet seen a use for it really. Generally a group of JP will show up at an NM we're popping and ask to rotate saying something like, "us next ok?", or they'll just pop it without asking, in which case I send a tell asking for us to be next and they usually respond. Maybe my experiences are just lucky, but it seems like JP love finding NMs that are already being fought and love asking to rotate even more. It's better than competing in any case.

Anyway, I'm fairly certain they all understand simple sentences like "us next?" even if they act like they don't.

More than anything I want all monster family names in there. Also I never knew about the "Take care" thing until reading this thread. Oops.

[Odin'sLaw]

Of those, the most striking one you want to keep is "Full Attack". Why? We have "everyone" and "attack" already.

everyone attack and full attack are different one is amount of people the other is amount of "force" used in killing the monster, i do agree to a point

[Colenzo]

I've got a sweet idea, lets have NA and JP only servers and just get rid of this auto translate bullshit.

[Cymmina]

It sounds good on paper, but I haven't yet seen a use for it really. Generally a group of JP will show up at an NM we're popping and ask to rotate saying something like, "us next ok?", or they'll just pop it without asking, in which case I send a tell asking for us to be next and they usually respond. Maybe my experiences are just lucky, but it seems like JP love finding NMs that are already being fought and love asking to rotate even more. It's better than competing in any case.

Anyway, I'm fairly certain they all understand simple sentences like "us next?" even if they act like they don't.

"Let's take turns" is code for "if you don't take turns with us, we'll make you," at least in my experience with JP groups. I can't fathom why people think taking turns and taking twice as much time to finish what you came to do is something positive. It's fine if both parties agree to share, but people get offended when you don't want to go along with their stupid suggestion.

Had a JP group come up to us last night on our 2nd to last Glavoid ask in english if it was ok if they popped the next one, we responded with "the next is our {last boss}". They camped the ??? anyway, and when our guy popped the next one, they sent us /disgusted emotes.

[Dazusu]

The majority of Japanese players will only talk to you when they want something. I thought this was common knowledge. With that in mind, I never "alternate" pops when they ask. Apparently they don't like it when you use auto translate either. The only purpose I can see for it is lazy people who can't type complete words without tabbing?

[Xerlic]

Get rid of May and Bee so people who cannot grasp that those two words mean the 5th month and the insect stop using it as "Maybe".

[Byrthnoth]

I had a JP tell me {May}{Bee} the other day.

[rog]

Yeah that one gets used so much, they all know what it means, and i've also seen jps use it a few times.

[Odin'sLaw]

I had a JP tell me {May}{Bee} the other day.

he wanted to run you over in may with his Vespa? tough break :/

[ryskar]

"Let's take turns" is code for "if you don't take turns with us, we'll make you," at least in my experience with JP groups. I can't fathom why people think taking turns and taking twice as much time to finish what you came to do is something positive. It's fine if both parties agree to share, but people get offended when you don't want to go along with their stupid suggestion.

Had a JP group come up to us last night on our 2nd to last Glavoid ask in english if it was ok if they popped the next one, we responded with "the next is our {last boss}". They camped the ??? anyway, and when our guy popped the next one, they sent us /disgusted emotes.

That sucks, seems I've been lucky so far. The thing about taking turns is, in my mind, at least I don't have to compete. I fully agree that it sucks ass though, it really, really does suck. I hate that shit. It's happened with nearly every force pop NM I've tried lately, and even happened with the timed spawn bat in Coast... Yeah, getting the bat once every half hour because you're alternating claims is a great fucking idea. :\

Was going after Pascerpot the other day and a JP group came on top of us and popped. I asked if they wanted turns in /say, and was ignored. Had to start sending tells to the leader to get a response. It sucked, but we were proccing grellow and TH6+ for every pop so whatever.

I just really, really hate competing for force spawns like they're HNMs, so I'd personally rather take turns than tab around looking for a ???.

[Yugl]

It's not the best wording, and should be changed, however it is not wrong. But yeah. Should be changed. Not removed.

If it's not translated properly, it's wrong. I can only think of a handful of people who would think "Take care" means "be careful" in the warning sense.

everyone attack and full attack are different one is amount of people the other is amount of "force" used in killing the monster, i do agree to a point

That is the one exception I thought of. The question then remains how useful it is compared to other terms such as "Only" (ESPECIALLY THIS) so that we can create more phrases. You can get away with "Attack" "Power" +++ "Please" for the other statement.