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Maybe I was just naively hoping we might have finally fucking figured out how to do this whole democracy thing.Originally Posted by ZarakiKujata
Edit: Maybe we should have pulled out to go pee decades ago. Then they wouldn't have gotten pregnant with corruption and apartheid.
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2011-02-02 13:46 #261Chram
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2011-02-02 13:48 #262Ridill Ninja Lotter
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Oh we're cool with democracy, as long as it suits our corporate geopolitical interests. Originally Posted by Edelweiss
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2011-02-02 13:52 #263E. Body
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Yea not sure where this rage about US response is coming from...Obama has been in his ear telling him to step down, its no fucking secret.
US isn't an omnipotent God, we can't just tell someone to do something and they do it.
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2011-02-02 13:53 #264Chram
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I was trying to be facecious there, I don't know if it didn't come off that way. I am kind of bad at it I guess. But anyway, pretty much. Originally Posted by ZarakiKujata
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2011-02-02 13:53 #265New Merits
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Obama's been in meetings and on calls all day with the likes of the King of Jordan about Egypt. Getting advice from the other dictators in the region on how Egypt can move towards democracy is a master stroke.
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2011-02-02 13:55 #266Chram
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It's more that they've so far refused to directly condemn him publicly, instead doing it in a roundabout way, which is wholly unsatisfying and just makes them come off as impotent (or non-committed). Originally Posted by Zoolander
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2011-02-02 14:00 #267Relic Horn
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Would you like Obama to organize a press conference and call him a poopoo head on national TV? You can't condemn a foreign leader much more harshly than telling them to step down immediately. Originally Posted by Edelweiss
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2011-02-02 14:01 #268Chram
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Are you implying doing so would somehow affect anything negatively? It sure as fuck doesn't paint us in a good light if we go about lightly or indirectly condemning someone who is almost certainly on the way out. Be that tomorrow, or in September. Especially after the abuses he's perpetrated with our backing, much less what he's done in the past two days. He's ignored condemnations of the violence his gangs have caused, and for the calls to begin immediately with a transitional government. If he's just going to brush them off, then what else is there to really lose by riding him harder? Originally Posted by Drex
Also, apparently the single death so far was a soldier.
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2011-02-02 14:02 #269New Merits
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It's like being in a elevator and someone keeps farting. Everyone knows who did it. Most ppl tell the guy he stinks, cut it out, gtfo of the elevator etc. While the US (who've been feeding the guy beans) say "Oh there seems to be a bad smell all of a sudden, I hope it doesn't last much longer..."
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2011-02-02 14:06 #270Chram
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That analogy stinks. Originally Posted by BardonGaruda
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2011-02-02 14:15 #271Relic Shield
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I forget how many commercials are on tv until I go back there after watching news online. Originally Posted by Zoolander
ALJaz person on phone said the anti-mubarak forces are blocking the road with dead cars and shining green lasers(wtf? lasers?) on the eyes to blind the pro-mubarak forces. Its like they are fighting with machetes and rocks, kitchen knives and cement but no prob we got lasers folks. They are big thick lightshow at a rave-looking lasers too not pen lights.
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2011-02-02 14:42 #272Ridill
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Originally Posted by Zealot
^ This
The US can't do good in the eyes of the Middle East no matter what the fuck we say or do.
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2011-02-02 14:53 #273Relic Shield
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It seems wrong if we do wrong if we don't on it. People complaining that we are sticking our noses in other's business but then "Why didn't the US[insert phrase]? I don't pretend to understand diplomacy though so just commenting. Originally Posted by Meresgi
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2011-02-02 15:07 #274blax n gunz
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He is talking to the only remaining ally of Israel in the ME still in power. Meeting makes sense in that context, plus it lets him hear from Israel on the matter without directly phoning them, a move that would alarm many in Egypt. Don't forget Bibi's recent demands that the new gov't in Egypt, whatever form it should take, must abide by the treaties that have allowed Israel to commit next to zero resources to defending their southern borders while maintaining a nonstop blockade on the Gaza Strip. Originally Posted by BardonGaruda
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2011-02-02 15:09 #275Nidhogg
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http://www.google.com/crisisresponse/egypt.htmlAnti-gov't protesters are blocking the North side of the square , with cars and debris, to prevent pro-gov't thugs from entering.
They are also using green laser lights to blind the pro-gov't people who are on rooftops throwing bricks, and reportedly, homemade bombs.
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2011-02-02 15:09 #276Ridill
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It's just like every aspect of life, people will bitch just to bitch, and they will even bitch about one thing and after it's changed bitch about it being changed. It's really evident especially in video game forums and politics. Originally Posted by Mistress Stowastiq
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2011-02-02 15:18 #277Relic Shield
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Richard Engel said the 10k or so pro mubarak forces arrived at the same time with similar banners.
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/a...d-7x2-Copy.jpg
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2011-02-02 15:24 #278Nidhogg
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Those pro-mubarak are not normal regular folks, but police trained in crowd control. You have to train a horse to charge a crowd.
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2011-02-02 15:29 #279alsohawks
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Green lasers will fuck shit up, lol http://www.pangolin.com/faa/laser-ai...xplanation.htm Originally Posted by Mistress Stowastiq
Thanks for the coverage, guys, haven't been able to watch anything today.
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2011-02-02 15:33 #280Relic Shield
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611 Injured and one dead. Reporters say they think more should be dead based on their eye-witnessing of people being lynched. I will check the link Caiyuo thanks
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About to check my twitters from all of the peeps reporting from Egypt.
The list is https://twitter.com/#!/list/TeaWithCarl/egypt
From Twitter: [each of the names has an @ sign before it but it is not pasting for some reason.] I spoiler tagged the list of quotes per lengthy.
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