Meanwhile, elsewhere in the world; black market sales skyrocket.
Meanwhile, elsewhere in the world; black market sales skyrocket.
In a detached, abstract sort of way I'm very glad that its becoming obvious these guys were nothing more than paid thugs/mercenaries looking to stir violence. How stupid are these people, did they really think people wouldn't figure it out?
The firebomb wars are insane right now on the live feeds. As for 200 pounds, if they are part of the thousands of people just released from prison, that might explain why they are willing to chance it.
@Zoolander not too bright apparently if they are carrying around their police id cards.
Those were some nice saddles and gear on those horses. Unless they stole them, I can't see how regular anti-mubarak demonstrators, the people around complaining of being broke just happen to have a set of horses to use for occasions just like these. What some one said earlier about horses being trained to charge is also important to note.
Just heard on Sky it is salaries paid and extra bonus money for being a pro Mubarak thug.
Ah I see they are putting the firebombs on strings and swinging them around to launch them.
Lol'd at CNN crew getting beat up while covering this.
The pro-government protesters tried to jump Anderson Cooper -_-
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_817612.html
Anderson Cooper Attacked In Egypt: Talks To HuffPost About What Happened
Anderson Cooper talked to The Huffington Post from Cairo on Wednesday night, and described what happened to him this morning, when he and his crew were attacked by a group of supporters of President Hosni Mubarak.
"A man jumped out of the crowd and tried to push us around," he said. "It sort of allowed other people in the crowd to focus on us. Other people came out of the crowd. Somebody punched me in the head, and from there things escalated quickly."
The crew decided they had to turn around, he said. They tried to walk away "as calmly as possible," but this did not calm the crowd around them.
"They were following us, screaming at us, ripping at our clothes," he said. This lasted for five minutes. The mob threw bottles and water at the crew, and kept kicking and punching people. A few people tried to assist them, but they were overwhelmed by the pro-Mubarak group. Meanwhile, Egyptian soldiers watched the whole thing.
Cooper said he received four distinct blows to the head. "I've never been punched in the head before," he said. "So they left an impression."
He said it was the first time that he'd been directly attacked in a crowd while reporting a story. For now, he is staying away from Tahrir Square. It is not safe, he said, for any journalist to report from there.
Didn't the Egyptians see this:
In any despotic nation state, there will be those who support the government of the day. Either it's because the dictator gives them security, food, pensions, employment in state organizations (inc. police and military), or they just like the guy, but there will be those who support any regime. I'm not saying that the pro-Mubarak thugs at the square weren't there to start fights and weren't sent by Mubarak's agents, but there must be some people in Egypt who support Mubarak.
Seeing the violence is sad, but I'm glad that the anti-gov't protesters seem to have taken the stance that the military isn't their enemy and that they want the military to represent a democratically elected Egyptian state. I'm just holding out hope that at the tipping point, some regiment loyal to a pro-Mubarak general or Colonel doesn't go all rogue and roll out to kill anti-gov't demonstrators. A military civil war would be absolutely devastating for Egypt (though I'm sure Israel would get a kick out of it)
PS: I have to say that in my 5+ years of being on BG, this is probably one of the best thread's General has ever had. Big gold star to all the news linkers.
I am sure there are Pro Mubarak too but the thing is, AJazeera asked each person who came on and also their reporters at the scene, all this week, whether they saw any pro Mubarak demonstrators. They literally would start the conversation of the interview asking that question and the answers were always none to a handful and certainly nothing organized, not even during the first riot battles earlier when the riot cops were first fighting the demonstrators.
It is odd also that they took all this time to show up and express their apparently passionate and heart-felt rage at the thought of losing Mubarak. So while I believe there are legitimately pro Mubarak people there, they have not demonstrated any size of organization prior to suddenly arriving in massive throngs at the same time on the same day. Logic defies that but Idk.
Also the check points at the arteries of the area were manned by army and everyone stripped of weapons so how a mass of people with weapons all got in is suspicious.
MSNBC's live feed of the fireball wars was put up again and showing some tanks actual tanks not trucks moving around.
El Fekki from the NDP "The NDP businessmen benefit from Mubarak's presidency so they naturally want him to stay longer in power"
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Dr. Mostafa El Fekki from the NDP "I am an NDP member but I disagree with some policies. What happened today is simply too much"
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Al Jazeera Arabic interviews Dr. Mostafa El Fekki from the NDP "The NDP businessmen sent the mercenaries to Tahrir as a favour for Mubarak"
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Al Jazeera Arabic interviews Dr. Mostafa El Feki from the NDP "I can confirm that NDP businessmen were behind the Meydan Tahrir mercenaries"
NDP = mubarak's political party
^ Holy shit if that's true.
@Quannum what are those quotes from?
Nevermind I see now its AJA
Richard Engel's recent tweets and others from my twitter list:
Spoiler: show
@evanchill Protesters in Tahrir have rushed a new barricade up to the Egyptian museum, pro-Mubarak crowd rushes down a side street. APC maneuvering.
@AJELive Anti-government supporters moving makeshift metal barricades slowly forward, one by one - scene described as medieval. http://aje.me/dKyIQt
RT @NickKristof: The pro-Mubarak thugs seem to be going home from #Tahrir. Mubarak should have realized that's a problem with mercenaries.
... meanwhile on CNN they put up headlines such as The Sweep: The risk of democracy in the Middle East
latest numbers put wounded at 1,500, I'm sure deaths will be in double figures given the beatings some ppl received today
I cannot even read that CNN article without throwing up in my mouth from all the elementary talking points and typical middle-east terror fear-mongering threats that FOX is renowned for.
The echo-chamber is in full force, I see.
]Those same news agencies that used to talk shit about AJaz but found it perfectly fine to use their vid feed earlier this week before the major US press arrived in Egypt.
Shit there is major gunfire on the feeds now.
Be warned if you are at work because Democracy Now shows carnage.
ALJaz just showed a picture of an Egyptian soldier weeping while a civilian was holding his face.Democracy now tweet:
"It's A Massacre": horrifying report from inside Tahrir Square (Video) http://bit.ly/eJsrnu #Egypt #Jan27
"It’s a Massacre": Eyewitness Account of Attack on Peaceful Egyptian Protesters by Pro-Mubarak Forces
Cairo resident Selma al-Tarzi calls in a report from the streets of Tahrir Square, where violent clashes have erupted.
SELMA AL-TARZI: My name is Selma al-Tarzi. And right now I’m at the entrance of the square from the Egyptian Museum side. It’s a massacre. They’re coming in in government cars, buses, and in thousands. They have knives. They are throwing Molotov bombs. They are burning the trees. They are throwing stones at us. We managed to catch many of them. All of them are undercover police.
We don’t have a single ambulance. I’m walking down with a couple bottles of Dettol, to try and do whatever. There are people unconscious. There are hundreds and hundreds of wounded, a lot of head injuries from the throwing of the stones. A lot of people have broken arms and legs. Some people have crutches. Some people managed to get infiltrated with knives. It’s a massacre.
We’ve been cleaning the square. We’ve been keeping it perfectly intact for the past nine days. And now we are forced to break the pavement they have been keeping so impeccable, to protect ourselves. He’s forcing us to destroy the square, so he can say that we destroyed it.
More and more, this is not—this is not a demonstration anymore; this is war. I just want to tell them that there are 50,000 people here, demonstrators. I wouldn’t call that Hosni Mubarak is sending, his protectors or demonstrators. They are not. These are missionaries. But here there are 50,000 innocent people getting hurt and wounded and killed. Many of them are women and children. And they are all ready and prepared to stay here and die here, if this is what it’s going to take to make him leave, if this is what it’s going to take to make the world see that this guy is a criminal of war. This is a mass murder of an innocent people, unarmed innocent people, of women and children and people who are demonstrating for their rights.
Originally Posted by @richardengelNBC
.Originally Posted by Noam Chomsky
Yeah Al Jazeera has an address for people to send in their pictures so I imagine its there, I am actually looking for it because I wanted to post it with my post so as soon as I find it I will post up.
Here it is Isa and it was a doctor not a civilian, now that I see the pic off video:
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/a...47176-Copy.jpgRT@3arabawy: army officer weeps after protesters were attacked by Mubarak's thugs today in Tahrir http://twitpic.com/3vvqeg #jan25”
Al Jaz has one of the reporters that the army arrested. She said that there is a military command center set up inside of the Museum because they were taken there. She said the command center was getting calls about the shit going down and they were ignoring it.