Middle East Revolutions: Current Bahrain protests getting violent

**Salodin** · 2011-02-03 19:55

Guy at :51 dodged that van like a boss

I kept motioning in the air for the camera to pan up so I could see if he really Matrix'd out of the way like that with out harm. Was the biggest fucking solid snake move I've seen in awhile lol.

**Mistress Stowastiq** · 2011-02-03 20:25

Originally Posted by Rhinox

Not sure if its been posted yet or not but stunning video of a Police Truck running through a group of protesters at high speeds

You might want to submit the vid to the AJE user submissions page, especially now that they had cameras taken/destroyed, they are appealing to people to submit stuff.

**Skidz** · 2011-02-03 20:32

Just saw this on AJE about 20/30 mins ago, they have it

***Shinzon*** · 2011-02-03 20:34

Man that shit is getting out of control lol. Looks like that guy dodging still got his knee clipped, probably hurt like a bitch.

**Rhinox** · 2011-02-03 21:03

Pro-Mubarak Supporters Identified As Agent Provocateurs

http://www.thehalsreport.com/2011/02...-provocateurs/

Pro-Mubarak supporters stormed Tahrir Square earlier today in a violent confrontation with anti-government protesters who want the Egyptian president to resign. The violence, which occurred shortly after President Mubarak gave a speech on Egyptian television, seemed to have been “choreographed” said Peter Beaumont, a Guardian journalist reporting live from the ground in Cairo. Many citizens, journalists and governments now believe pro-Mubarak supporters may be agent provocateurs. Currently, over 1500 people have been injured in the escalating protests.

What is an agent provocateur? According to the Merriam Webster dictionary , an agent provocateur is “a person employed to encourage people to break the law so they can be arrested.” Provocateurs have also been known to incite violence, create coups and deliver misinformation to the public.

In 2009, military police who were involved with the G-20 summit in London called for an investigation into whether police used agent provocateurs to incite crowds. Tom Brake, a member of the home affairs select committee said “When I was in the middle of the crowd, two people came over to me and said there are people over there who we think are police who keep encouraging the crowd to throw things.”

In 2007, agent provocateurs infiltrated peaceful demonstrations in Burma by attacking police, giving government officials a pretext to crack down on the peaceful demonstrations. The regime used a similar tactic in 2003 at an event known as the Depayin massacre. Militia members dressed as monks ambushed unarmed activists leaving more than 100 dead. The Asian Legal Resource Centre labeled the event a “widespread or systematic attack directed against a civilian population.”

The idea of agent provocateurs is not a new one as we can see. In fact, secret police have been used in countries all over the world including Sudan, Iran, Israel, the United States, Canada, London and many others.

Now that we know what a agent provocateur is, let’s discuss how they are being used in Egypt by President Mubarak right now. The clashes currently going on in Tahrir square and Alexandria between pro and anti-Mubarak supporters seem to have been orchestrated by the regime.

To begin with, Pro-Mubarak supporters arrived in Tahrir square heavily armed. In fact, the protesters arrived in a coordinated manner on buses. Weapons pro-Mubark supporters arrived with included machetes, metal pipes, bats and hand-made swords. Anti-Mubarak supporters are unarmed, doesn’t this seem a bit suspicious.

Secondly, the attack came after President Mubarak gave the citizens of Egypt a choice on Egyptian television, “ chaos or stability.” Coincidentally, moments after the demonstrators rejected the presidents television address, armed supporters arrived and began to incite violence. Moments later, several reports surfaced claiming anti-government protesters captured multiple pro-Mubarak supporters carrying government identification badges.

The Egyptian military seems to have taken a backseat to the madness currently unfolding, and new reports have surfaced claiming the military is allowing pro-Mubarak supporters to move freely between check points. Other reports claim pro-Mubarak supporters have been allowed to bring weapons to the protests also. (anti-Mubarak protesters have not been allowed to bring weapons) Did the military receive orders from high command to stand down and let pro-Mubarak supporters into Tahrir square, possibly because they are actually agent provocateurs hired to incite violence? Will the military develop a conscience and do something before hundreds, if not thousands of innocent civilians get killed?

Update:
Pro-Mubarak demonstrators have surrounded anti-government protesters, building barricades and quarantining roadways to Tahrir square. The events seem highly organized. Reporters and civilians on Al Jazeera claim they are policemen. Follow the live stream from Al Jazeera here.

Update: Al Jazeera is now reporting Egyptian citizens are transferring money out of the country in large quantities.

Update: Heavy fire is currently taking place in Cairo. The cause of gunfire is not confirmed. Is it the military?

**Rhinox** · 2011-02-03 21:08

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...raks-got-to-go

how fucked are you when even Castro says you got to go lol

It can't be a good sign if you're an embattled, long-tenured autocrat and one of the senior members of the dictators' club says that your time is up. Even as Egyptian leader Hosni Mubarak scrambles to stay in office for a few months more, long-time Cuban leader Fidel Castro issued his view, that Mubarak is finished. You know it's bad when Fidel Castro tells you it's time to relinquish power.Where's the tyrannical team spirit? Dictators of the world, unite? No?

Castro writes:

Mubarak's fate is sealed, not even the support of the United States will be able to save his government. The people of Egypt are an intelligent people with a glorious history who left their mark on civilization. "From the top of these pyramids, 40 centuries of history are looking down upon us," Bonaparte once said in a moment of exaltation when the revolution brought him to this extraordinary crossroads of civilization.

Apparently in Fidel's mind all revolutions are created equal. The French and Cuban revolutions, one supposes, are part of a grand revolutionary tide of history. One can almost imagine a "Dictators Playing Poker" painting with Castro, Napoleon, Caesar, Genghis Khan, and Alexander the Great. Of course one of these does not belong with the others. Perhaps Fidel would be at a junior baccarat game with, oh I don't know, Fulgencia Batista, and Hosni Mubarak? [See a slide show of 15 post-Cold War uprisings.]

Castro's pronouncement also was presumably written before recent developments, like President Obama kicking Mubarak to the international curb. It's to be expected, I suppose. "United States [sic] never stopped conspiring against the Arab world," Castro goes on, before cut-and-pasting 1,500 words of filler in the form of news reports on the Egyptian situation. [See photos of the Egypt protests.]

Castro may be an old dog but he can apparently learn new tricks, even if the new tricks are bloggers' bad post-padding habits. Viva la Twitter revolucion.

**Cleveland_7795** · 2011-02-03 21:34

Originally Posted by Callisto

I was wondering the same thing, if the people do get their way and the current guys are tossed out, what then? Elections kinda take a bit to get together.

"...Should the president die or become permanently disabled while in office, the speaker of the People’s Assembly temporarily assumes the presidency. A new election must be held within 60 days. If the president becomes temporarily unable to carry out the functions of his office temporarily, he may deputize a vice president or the prime minister to do so..."

Sooooooo...who is the Speaker? Anyone know?

**Callisto** · 2011-02-03 21:37

Someone who just got appointed Saturday I'm guessing lol

**Nox** · 2011-02-03 21:39

Reuters:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Obama administration is discussing with Egyptian officials a proposal for President Hosni Mubarak to resign immediately, The New York Times reported on Thursday.

Under the proposal, Mubarak would turn power over to a transitional government headed by Vice President Omar Suleiman with the support of the Egyptian military, the Times said, citing administration officials and Arab diplomats.

It also calls for the transitional government to invite members from a broad range of opposition groups, including the banned Muslim Brotherhood, to begin work to open up the country's electoral system in an effort to bring about free and fair elections in September, the Times said.

Commenting on the report, State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said, "The President, Secretary (of State Hillary) Clinton and others have encouraged the Egyptian government to proceed with an orderly transition. Beyond that, we will keep our advice private."

Senior Obama administration officials said the proposal was one of several options under discussion with high-level Egyptian officials around Mubarak, although not him directly, in an effort to convince him to step down now, the paper said.

Although Mubarak has balked so far at leaving immediately, officials from both governments are continuing talks about the plan, the Times said.

Mubarak told ABC News on Thursday that if he stepped down now after days of massive street protests, Egypt would fall into chaos and the Muslim Brotherhood, an Islamist opposition group, would take control.

Mubarak=Suleiman. Not sure how this will appease/satisfy the people any...

**Zoolander** · 2011-02-03 21:42

Yea, especially after a lot of the bull shit he just said earlier today. "Egypt's vice-president has said protesters calling for the departure of Hosni Mubarak, the president, are not part of the Egyptian culture, saying we all respect Mubarak as father and leader."

Yea okay fuck you buddy.

**Callisto** · 2011-02-03 21:49

looool this will go over as well as the 'new government' did

**Ksandra** · 2011-02-03 22:20

Originally Posted by Cleveland_7795

"...Should the president die or become permanently disabled while in office, the speaker of the People’s Assembly temporarily assumes the presidency. A new election must be held within 60 days. If the president becomes temporarily unable to carry out the functions of his office temporarily, he may deputize a vice president or the prime minister to do so..."

Sooooooo...who is the Speaker? Anyone know?

I doubt they will follow the "official" way to do it for 2 reasons 1. the old speaker would have just gotten fired 2. the new one was appointed by Mubarak and would be considered a Mubarak supporter.

**BardonGaruda** · 2011-02-03 23:13

One of the new ministers was interviewed on Sky this morning. They asked him where Mubarak was, he answered he's in his office. They asked him how he knew this.
Minister: "He was there the last time I saw him".
Sky "When did you last see him"
Minister "2 days ago when I was appointed".

Sky also just repeated a segment they did that included going to the homes of police and asking them when they were going back to work. Also a piece on a young Egyptian woman who returned from the UK to take part in the protests as she felt so strongly about it. She said her father owned a parcel of land and group linked to the cops took it over and were demanding payment to give it back.

**Mistress Stowastiq** · 2011-02-04 01:30

This is really cool, pictures of make shift helmets from Egyptian Macguyverevolutionaries. I was depressed up until I saw these pics because they managed to make me smile

.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gall...390063&index=6

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/a...g-002-Copy.jpg

couple more spoilered for size

Spoiler: show

**Salodin** · 2011-02-04 02:00

I just about lost it at the crockpot helmet...rofl.

**Jodwahh** · 2011-02-04 02:43

**AidenCarby** · 2011-02-04 02:47

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/a...g-008-Copy.jpg

Needs "Haters gonna hate" asap.

**Cantih** · 2011-02-04 05:21

Friday Prayer is underway, will soon be over.
Tahrir is PACKED

Nobody knows what will happen next.

**GentaiShinigami** · 2011-02-04 06:13

The square looks absolutely fucking insane! @_@

The one thing I'm worried about happening to these guys is running out of endurance or supplies. They've been out there like what 12 days now? :/ Gotta be taking a huge toll on them now. I certainly hope they endure and succeed however.

**Cantih** · 2011-02-04 06:25

iirc, there is a water fountain in the square. Everybody is sharing everything.
I can't confirm, but it seems that unlike the thug attack days, people are able to get a steady stream of supplies into the square now.

It looks like nobody is going to go to the presidential palace.
I can't find any news about if the government will respond at all today.

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