Middle East Revolutions: Current Bahrain protests getting violent

**Vajra** · 2011-02-14 20:04

Originally Posted by Firas

the dude in the video says the following:

is egypt is now exposed to both internal and external dangers. The people in Tahrir square are unaware of this; the external dangers are in the form that the united states -something- general Mullen, or Merlin stated that it is essential to secure the naval route in the suez canal.

This resulted in 2 air carriers (or something) that left the gulf bases. one headed to the south entrance of the suez canal (the carriers have 50 chopers) and the other carrier is "Enterprise" which is carrying around 80 fighter jets...

there are also threats from Israel to attack the eastern region of suez. All this, the revolting youth is unaware of but the high council of the egyptian armed forces is fully aware of this. especially the israeli threats, which fear that egypt will fall under a radical islamic regime. they fear this will disrupt the agreement of -something-

all this is all on stand by to attack, and who dont believe this, please with Muhammad Fadhil will confirm everything that ive said here.

i dont know how true is this...no other news agent have covered such thing. I fear this will be an invasion which will send us back 10 years, and the revoluion will backfire on us.

end.

I think that this dude from the video/text u posted was reading from this last week or so:

Link: http://debka.com/article/20648/

Egypt nears military coup. USS warships in Suez

USS Kearsarge enters Suez Canal

A fresh surge of popular anti-Mubarak protest ripping through Egypt Tuesday, Feb. 8 has brought the country closer to a military coup to stem the anarchy than at any time since the street caught fire on Jan. 25.
Vice President Omar Suleiman warned a group of Egyptian news editors that the only choice is between a descent into further lawlessness and a military takeover in Cairo. The distinguished political pundit of the 1960s and 1970s Hasnin Heikal saw no other way out of the crisis but a government ruling by the army's bayonets.

The arrival of US naval, marine and air forces in the Suez Canal's Greater Bitter Lake indicated that the crisis was quickly swerving out of control.
DEBKAfile's military sources report that the American force consists of the USS Kearsarge Expeditionary Strike Group of six warships. Helicopters on some of their decks are there to carry and drop the 2,200 marines of the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit which has been bolstered by two special operations battalions.

The flotilla has a rapid strike stealth submarine, the USS Scranton, which is designed to support special forces' operations.
The US strike force has taken up position at a strategic point opposite Ismailia between the west bank of the Suez Canal and its eastern Sinai bank. It is poised for rapid response in the event of the passage of about 40 percent of the world's marine freights through the Suez Canal being threatened or any other extreme occurrence warranting US military intervention.

For a few hours Tuesday, it looked as through Egypt was finally going back to normal after a two-week popular uprising. But then, suddenly, thousands again took to the streets and squares of Egyptian towns - from the Western desert on the Libyan border up to the northern Sinai town of El Arish in the east, recalling Hosni Mubarak's warning of chaos if he were to depart too soon.

Tuesday, the protesters mounted their biggest demonstrations of their campaign to oust Mubarak - in Cairo, Alexandria, the Delta Cities, the industrial belt around Mahalla-el-Kebir and the steel city of Heluan, shouting "Death to Mubarak!" and "Hang Mubarak!"
Although reforms and pay hikes have been pledged by the new Egyptian government, large groups of workers, mainly in Cairo, rebelled against state-appointed managements and set up "Revolutionary Committees" to run factories and other work places, including Egyptian state TV and Egypt's biggest weekly "Ros el-Yusuf."

The stock market and the pyramids remained closed and traffic blocked solid on the streets of Cairo.

The military already did remove Mubarak, I don't think there is a reason for the US to have warships in Suez anymore. I would assume that they want to make sure that they don't lose access to Suez Canal in the future, cause that would make gas prices sky rocket to anywhere from 5-10 dollars a gallon.

If you notice the date on the video Feb 10, 2011...and the date on the article, Feb 8, 2011...it seems that the person saw Debka's article and made the video two days later.

**Mistress Stowastiq** · 2011-02-15 04:10

Al Jazeera English's interview with Hilary Clinton is posted up on their site now. Seems to start in mid question so maybe this is not all of the interview and it will be on one of their shows.

Yikes I think she is going to regret speaking so well of the Egyptian army because they are getting more intense with the people. I hope I am wrong though, really do. The harsh treatment and sweep of all the foreign press today in Tahrir just reeks of planned action that they do not want seen.

4.35am
Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State, has told Al Jazeera that the US is hopeful Egypt will become a model for democracy in the region.
There are critics who say the US government is again sitting on the fence -- as it did before president Mubarak resigned -- in deciding whether to back the people or the army.

Our reporter Abder-Rahim Foukara spoke to Clinton:
http://blogs.aljazeera.net/middle-ea...g-feb-15-egypt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCaY3rkLMqw

Also Zbigniew Brzezinski talks Egypt and Obama's choices. MJoe http://on.msnbc.com/ep55fk

Pics inside :

Spoiler: show

**Kuya** · 2011-02-15 20:36

I didn't see that this was posted and i thought it was important. It seems this is what started the revolt in Egypt:

A young guy took pictures of the police selling drugs, and they found him, took him out in the streets and killed him in broad daylight and left his mangled corpse on the streets. People took pictures and this seems to have set off the rage with the regime. This started six months ago.

What he looked like after and before his murder:

NSFW:

Spoiler: show

Articles:

In Alexandria, Egypt, on July 27, 2010, riot police surround supporters of Khaled Said, one carrying a poster with his picture, after the trial of the two Egyptian policemen, Mahmoud Salah and Awad Ismail, who beat him to death and said he’d choked on a bag of marijuana. His murder inflamed youth rage against police in Egypt, sparking protests that led to the overthrow of the 30-year dictatorship of President Hosni Mubarak. – Photo: Nasser Nasser/AP

An Egyptian whistleblower who exposed police corruption online was killed by Alexandria police in broad daylight. Khaled Said, 28, was seriously beaten by Egyptian police outside of an internet cafe and taken to a police station where he subsequently died.

Massive demonstrations in Cairo and Alexandria followed.

Said’s crime? He posted video to the internet of Egyptian police sharing profits from a drug deal.

http://happilynaturalday.com/conscio...nal-coalition/

http://trueslant.com/nealungerleider...t-cafe-patron/

**Kuya** · 2011-02-15 20:39

Found this out via this video that covers the revolts in the Middle East thus far:

edit: The summary of the preamble to the events in Egypt is after 17:00 in the video

**Obev** · 2011-02-15 20:41

It's

Spoiler: show

not /spoilers. Might want to edit that quick-like before anyone else gets put off their dinner.

**Kuya** · 2011-02-15 20:43

Originally Posted by Obev

It's

Spoiler: show

not /spoilers. Might want to edit that quick-like before anyone else gets put off their dinner.

Oh crap, let me fix that now. Thanks!

**Mistress Stowastiq** · 2011-02-15 22:11

This is not good.

http://www.cpj.org/2011/02/cpj-alarm...f-cbs-news.php

CPJ alarmed by attack on Lara Logan of CBS News

New York, February 15, 2011--

The Committee to Protect Journalists is alarmed by news that CBS correspondent and CPJ board member Lara Logan was sexually assaulted and beaten in Cairo on Friday while covering rallies marking the resignation of Egyptian leader Hosni Mubarak.

"We have seen Lara's compassion at work while helping journalists who have faced brutal aggression while doing their jobs," CPJ Chairman Paul Steiger said. "She is a brilliant, courageous, and committed reporter. Our thoughts are with Lara as she recovers."
Jehad Ali and Lara Logan. (CPJ)

Logan joined the CPJ board in October 2008. That same year she spearheaded an effort to raise funds to pay for multiple surgeries for an injured Iraqi reporter, Jehad Ali, whom she befriended while reporting in Iraq. Ali eventually made a full recovery.

Logan currently serves on CPJ's Journalist Assistance Committee, which oversees the program that provides financial and other support to journalists around the world who have been victims of violence and repression.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/...20032070.shtml
February 15, 2011
CBS News' Lara Logan Assaulted During Egypt Protests
CBS News Chief Foreign Correspondent Separated From Her Crew And Brutally Assaulted on Day Mubarak Stepped Down

(CBSNews)

On Friday, Feb. 11, the day Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak stepped down, CBS chief foreign correspondent Lara Logan was covering the jubilation in Tahrir Square for a "60 Minutes" story when she and her team and their security were surrounded by a dangerous element amidst the celebration. It was a mob of more than 200 people whipped into frenzy.

In the crush of the mob, she was separated from her crew. She was surrounded and suffered a brutal and sustained sexual assault and beating before being saved by a group of women and an estimated 20 Egyptian soldiers. She reconnected with the CBS team, returned to her hotel and returned to the United States on the first flight the next morning. She is currently in the hospital recovering.

There will be no further comment from CBS News and correspondent Logan and her family respectfully request privacy at this time.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_823677.html
Lara Logan Suffered 'Brutal' Sexual Assault In Egypt

CBS News says correspondent Lara Logan "suffered a brutal and sustained sexual assault" while covering the resignation of Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak.
The CBS statement:

On Friday February 11, the day Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak stepped down, CBS correspondent Lara Logan was covering the jubilation in Tahrir Square for a 60 MINUTES story when she and her team and their security were surrounded by a dangerous element amidst the celebration. It was a mob of more than 200 people whipped into frenzy.

In the crush of the mob, she was separated from her crew. She was surrounded and suffered a brutal and sustained sexual assault and beating before being saved by a group of women and an estimated 20 Egyptian soldiers. She reconnected with the CBS team, returned to her hotel and returned to the United States on the first flight the next morning. She is currently in the hospital recovering.

There will be no further comment from CBS News and Correspondent Logan and her family respectfully request privacy at this time.

On Tuesday's "CBS Evening News," Katie Couric said that she was "pleased to report" that Logan is "recovering well in the hospital."
Logan had previously been detained by Egyptian authorities while attempting to enter Cairo.
The Committee to Protect Journalists report on attacks on the press in Egypt in 2005 referenced female journalists facing sexual assault:

A report published in 2005 by the Egyptian Organization for Human Rights said that "journalists in Egypt suffer numerous forms of discrimination including unfairness in legislation, judicial prosecution of journalists for their writing and opinions, assault and death threats, and sexual assault of female journalists."

**Rhinox** · 2011-02-15 23:10

oh man shes hot as hell. terrible journalist but sucks that this happened.

Spoiler: show

**test123** · 2011-02-16 07:57

How can someone whip out their dick with 200 people standing around and be able to rape? Was there several people raping? Maybe she just got fingered or something idk. Makes you wonder.

Are you legally allowed to execute a rapist if you catch him in the act in the US? I hear'd you can in Arizona if the victim is a child.

**Ragnus** · 2011-02-16 08:41

Originally Posted by Rhinox

oh man shes hot as hell. terrible journalist but sucks that this happened.

Spoiler: show

Come on guys. Lets not start with this overall wonderful thread being crapped up with comments like this. It's really unfortunate that this happened to her and I'm glad she's recovering well but I don't know what this is going to mean for things to come as far as what kinds of spins can be put on it.

**ronin sparthos** · 2011-02-16 12:18

Originally Posted by test123

How can someone whip out their dick with 200 people standing around and be able to rape? Was there several people raping? Maybe she just got fingered or something idk. Makes you wonder.

Are you legally allowed to execute a rapist if you catch him in the act in the US? I hear'd you can in Arizona if the victim is a child.

From what I read, they are calling it a sexual assault and not rape. Semantics? Perhaps. Regardless, it puts a damper on what was for the most part a "peaceful" revolution. Most unfortunate to have read about this yesterday.

Hopefully she recovers from the incident and continues with her reporting job.

Also read today that Mubarak is near death in a coma?

**Takedown3** · 2011-02-16 12:49

10 bux on no penetration and just free grabby grab time for all those lucky dudes.

Alarial · 2011-02-16 13:33

If it was "sustained" then it was most likely rape by multiple people for a long duration, which is disgusting and horrible. We all know mob mentality and people become basically animals and do horrible things, but this is just disgusting. I feel for her and her family and hope she can eventually get past this ordeal.

**Rhinox** · 2011-02-16 14:18

When she moves on from this there is definitely a book deal and a lifetime movie waiting for her.

**Mistress Stowastiq** · 2011-02-16 14:39

Charlie Rose recently ended his series of shows broad-casted from Egypt. Here is a link to the archive page and also different clips I found interesting. I didn't know he actually interviewed Mubarak before so apologies if its already posted.

I added my notes and personal summary on the content of some of the video links for perspective.

Listing of all of the Eps:
http://www.charlierose.com/schedule/

[Feb 7/11] Lara Logan, Chief Foreign Affairs Correspondent for CBS News:
http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11457 <----- Just hearing her speak for a few minutes gives you a glimpse of the utter fearlessness that she has and her refusal to be intimidated, in spite of being arrested already. The interview is prior to her being attacked but before she returned to Egypt after being arrested by Egyptian security. Current news says that she is recovering at home and in good spirits.

[Feb 11/11]Charlie Rose coverage from Cairo: Roger Cohen of 'The New York Times' and Hafez al-Mirazi of The American University in Cairo:
http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11467

[Feb 13/11] Egypt at a Crossroads: Compilation of Charlie Rose interviews with Hosni Mubarak:
http://www.charlierose.com/view/clip/11473

[Feb 14/11] Journalists in Cairo: John Simpson, World Affairs Editor for BBC News, Richard Engel, Chief Foreign Correspondent for NBC News, Robert Fisk, Middle East correspondent of the The Independent and Andrew Hammond, Senior Correspondent in the Middle East for Reuters:
http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11474#

[Feb 14/11] Naguib Sawiris, Chairman & CEO, Orascom Telecom of Cairo : Mediator with "The Wise Men":
http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11472 <-----Very interesting perspective and informative. The Ceo sent his family out of the country the day before Jan 25 because of what he anticipated in light of what had already happened in Tunisia. He speaks candidly about his relationship with Mubarak, their phone conversations and his pov of the meaning of the Revolution as one of Egypt's elites.

[Feb 15/11] David Brooks of 'The New York Times' on the budget and Egypt:
http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11478

[Feb 15/11] From Cairo Shady El Ghazaly Harb on the youth revolution that helped end Hosni Mubarak's 30 year rule as President: http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11475 <----- He discusses his concerns about the progress that they are having with meetings with the establishment. He expresses concern with meetings being repeatedly postponed when they call.

He's concerned that they[the establishment & army] have not been very enthusiastic about hearing what the opposition's plans are.

Also mentions concern that former members of the NDP, now unemployed are considering reforming and using the name "January 25", how that may effect things.

He expressed concern that the Mubarak cabinet still remains in power. The opposition wants the Mubarak cabinet to be removed asap but they are delaying it and this concerns him.

They plan to have a Friday million man gathering in Tahrir this Friday regardless of whether they actually get the meetings with the establishment that they are requesting for this week.

**Caiyuo** · 2011-02-16 14:41

Oh awesome; I used to watch Rose every day but ended up stopping since it was so much TV time, this should be worthwhile.

**Mistress Stowastiq** · 2011-02-16 15:45

Gorgeous vid...

Tahrir Square
PRESENTS
The birth of a new EGYPT
Directed by Safwan Nasser El din
D.O.P
Safwan Nasser El din
Mohamed el kady
Nader el Ma5raby
Edited by Safwan Nasser El din
Pros by
Marwan Abdin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gLv80p0LnI

@Caiyuo been long since I have watched CR too but Richard Engel tweeted it since he is in one of the interviews so I checked it out.

Mapping pro-democracy protests in Libya:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...,0.160503&z=13

**noblemountain** · 2011-02-16 16:08

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/vide...war-iraq-video

Interesting to hear his side of the story.

**Mistress Stowastiq** · 2011-02-16 21:00

Bahrain day 3:
AlJazEnglish is reporting that in Bahrain, the police cracked down in the middle of the night 345am while protesters were sleeping in Pearl Square. It is described as a surprise attack. Men women and children there. They used rubber bullets, teargas and beating. Ambulances are taking people into the hospital, many people in critical condition 35 to 40 people injured 3 dead.

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

Update, person on the phone said riot cops are surrounding the hospital now. There are at least 300 or more people at the hospital visiting for injuries and dead. The ambulance drivers are being denied entry to the hospital parameter by the riot cops.

Riot police attack Bahrain protesters; 2 dead
Authorities are trying to regain control of a main square in nation's capital [spoilered for size]

Spoiler: show

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41632742...deastn_africa/

MANAMA, Bahrain — Riot police firing tear gas and rubber bullets stormed a landmark square occupied by anti-government protesters Thursday, driving out demonstrators and destroying a makeshift encampment that had become the hub for demands for sweeping political changes in the kingdom.

At least two people were killed and an ABC reporter was beaten during the pre-dawn assault on Pearl Square, which was filled with flattened tents and trampled banners, according to media accounts. After police regained control of the square, they continued to chase protesters through sidestreets.

"One has just died. More are in critical condition," said parliamentarian Ibrahim Mattar.
The main opposition group Al Wefaq said two men were killed. Hospitals across the city were on alert for more causalities.
The square had been the hub for protests for sweeping political reforms by Bahrain's ruling monarchy.

There was no official word on deaths or injuries from Bahrain's authorities. The blow by authorities marked a dramatic shift in the protests. It appeared Bahrain's leaders sought to contain security forces after clashes Monday that left at least two people dead and brought sharp criticism from Western allies, including the U.S.

The Egypt-inspired protests began Monday as a cry for the country's Sunni monarchy to loosen its grip, including hand-picking most top government posts, and open more opportunities for the country's majority Shiites, who have long complained of being blocked from decision-making roles or key posts in the military.

But the uprising's demands have steadily grown bolder. Many protesters are calling for the government to provide more jobs and better housing, free all political detainees and abolish a system that offers Bahraini citizenship to Sunnis from around the Middle East as a way to close the population gap with Shiites, who account for 70 percent of the population. Many of the newly minted nationals get jobs in security forces to further cement the number of presumed loyalists protecting the ruling system.

Increasingly, protesters are also chanting slogans to wipe away the entire ruling dynasty that has led Bahrain for more than 200 years and is firmly backed by the Sunni sheiks and monarchs across the Gulf.

Although Bahrain is sandwiched between two of OPEC's heavyweights, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, it has limited oil resources and depends heavily on its role as a regional financial hub and playground for Saudis, who can drive over a causeway to enjoy Bahrain's Western-style bars, hotels and beaches.

The main Shi'ite opposition Wefaq party walked out of parliament and on Wednesday it demanded a new constitution that would move the country toward democracy.

"We're not looking for a religious state. We're looking for a civilian democracy ... in which people are the source of power, and to do that we need a new constitution," the group's general secretary Sheikh Ali Salman told a news conference.

The religious divide that separates the ruling family from most of its subjects has led to sporadic unrest since the 1990s, and Bahrain's stability is being closely watched as protest movements blow through North Africa and the Middle East.

It is considered the state most vulnerable to popular unrest in a Gulf Arab region where, in an unwritten pact, rulers have traded a share of their oil wealth for political submission.

Regional power Saudi Arabia, and the United States -- which bases its navy's Mid-East fleet in Bahrain -- both view the ruling Khalifa family as a bulwark against Shiite Iran.

Story: Analysis: Arab uprisings overturn cliches on democracy

King Hamad bin Isa al-Khalifa introduced a new constitution giving more political rights to his subjects a decade ago, but the opposition says he has not gone far enough to introduce democracy. Most of the cabinet are still members of his family.

Protesters have called for him to fire his uncle, Khalifa bin Salman al-Khalifa, who has been prime minister since the modern state was founded in 1971. Wefaq members say they want elections for prime minister.

Protesters' wrath has been stirred up by the deaths of two of their number during this week's demonstrations, the second killed in clashes at the funeral of the first.

"The people demand the fall of the regime!" protesters chanted on Wednesday as men pounded their chests in rhythm, a mourning gesture distinctive to the Shi'ite branch of Islam.

King Hamad has expressed condolences to relatives of the two dead men and said a committee would investigate. His government says it has detained people suspected of blame for the deaths.

ABC News reporter beaten in Bahrain -Rachel Maddow Show
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908...34168#41634168

ABC's Miguel Marquez Beaten in Bahrain - live audio of Miguel during the attack.[ warning: difficult to listen to but he escapes to explain what happened.]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQyfIGm-760

Here is the first part of it, I transcribed it:

"It's after 3 o-clock in the morning here in Pearl Square, the military has just come along side the highway right next to the main square here in town and its firing tons of teargas into the square and clearing about 2 or 3 thousand protesters out. Now there are whole, there are whole gangs of police officers moving in a line to clear the square forcefully."

Lulu Roundabout protest in Bahrain - The End
The police put an end to the peaceful protest at the Lulu Roundabout with tear gas and sound bombs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsG3nTVtIL8

Lara Logan news:
Lawerence of The Last Word is going to have a feature on her and the people online who have attacked her verbally. The show clips are always uploaded to the web after the airing on cable.

http://thelastword.msnbc.msn.com/

Lara Logan leaves hospital after assault
By Ethan Harp
-
CBS News announced this evening that its Chief Foreign Correspondent Lara Logan, has left the hospital and returned home after suffering "a brutal and sustained sexual assault and beating" while covering the events in Cairo on Friday. Logan also received a call today from President Obama. But while her colleagues and viewers have expressed an outpouring of love and support, there have been several cases of online attacks against Logan.

Tonight, we'll look at examples of the hatred and talk with Farai Chideya of PopandPolitics.com about the challenges for female correspondents in risky assignments.

Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:01 PM PST

**Rhinox** · 2011-02-16 23:45

ugh just happened and already tired of the Lara Logan news.

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