Dark Souls: Prepare to Die (PS3/360/PC)

[Kazen]

I'm slightly confused now. I kept the Cat Covenant Ring on and I just killed my 3rd player yet she isn't giving me my Ring of Fog.

[Degenxerate]

I thought i read you needed 4 kills but i did mine last night and got it after only 2 kills so who even knows.

[Belragga]

Haha just got my Ring of Fog and then joined Darkmoon. First guy I invade gets backstabbed and then a single slash as he was getting up and he was down.

[Kazen]

Yeah you're not kidding. Invading this forest is pretty shitty, half the people I'm invading are using the fog ring with lightning weapons. Luckily my Pyromancy Flame+15 and Fire orb says hi.

[Chrian]

so I just killed the bellfry gargoyles ~_~ and the did I have to chop off both tails to get the shield and axe? and what key to these give?

[Kaelan?]

After some quick testing with Pyromancy (I hardly ever use it). I can confirm what Kaelan said, the INT modifier on the High Pyro Flame does indeed not affect your actual spells and normal spells aren't affected by humanity.

The weird thing is though, my Great Chaos Fireball wasn't affected by my humanity at all, tried it from 0 to 10 and the damage remained the same. Could be that it only affects the lava pools made by it.

I could just be wrong on that, I was mainly going from the fact that Chaos weapons (according to the guide) are affected by Humanity. I haven't spent too much time using Chaos spells, but I figured they might be similar since they share the naming convention (and it feels weird that the fireball uses an extra slot just for 30% more damage)

[SilentGrief]

I don't think you're wrong, it even says on the spell description itself that it's affected by the user's humanity, I think it might have something to do with my character.

[tyven]

From my experience using it:
- Pyromancy normally doesn't scale with anything. The only thing that makes you do more damage is a stronger flame and enemies not having fire resistance. It also has no stat requirements even at full upgrade, so you can use it on a purely melee character with no problems

- Spells with Chaos in their name do additional damage with more Humanity. I think it caps at 10 but don't quote me on that

- The "S" rank INT modifier on a capped out Pyro flame only affects your R2 (i.e. the physical attack) with it equipped. Even with S scaling, it's an awful attack you should never use for anything but breaking hidden walls. The magic adjust (which is what affects your spell damage) is 270 with a capped flame regardless of your INT. For reference, the capped magic adjust on Sorcery Catalysts is (if I remember right) 245 for the regular catalyst and 315 for the crystal one that halfs all your spell uses

- Pyro spells generally have crap range. Much, much lower than INT based Sorcery. If you can't safely get within melee range of it, you usually can't fight it with Pyro (i.e. butterflies in crystal cave, the hydras, etc.). Anything you want to fight at long range, you'd have to fight with Sorcery/Miracles, Pyro wouldn't really work. Also, if you use a bow normally, keep in mind Bows have way more range than spells do and you can't aim spells at things you can't lock on to

- Chaos Great Fireball does about the same damage as regular Great Fireball on hit with 0 humanity. If the opponent stays still after being hit, the lava pool it creates does another hit for about 30% of the inital fireball damage. Seeing as it takes 2 slots it's usually better to equip something else if you're at 0 humanity. The lower level pyro spells like Fire Orb don't do that much less damage.

thank you! that is like basically everything i was wondering!

[tyven]

judging from everyone going after the fog ring, is there a good chance im gonna be invaded if i go into the forest as a human?

[Ragnell]

WHY CANT I INVADE ANY FUCKING ONE

IVE BEEN STANDING HERE FOR ABOUT 2 HRS AND NOTHING

[Kazen]

Got my Ring of Fog on the 4th kill. Is this unconfirmed comment on the wiki true? That you can invade someone else's word while in the covenant with the ring of fog equipped and not the cat covenant ring?

[Tyrath]

judging from everyone going after the fog ring, is there a good chance im gonna be invaded if i go into the forest as a human?

Very much so. Someone posted earlier they got invaded 8 times in one run till they finally died.

[Tekki]

So I love my Gargole Halberd. I've been building STR DEX VIT Endurance. Any suggestions to go after an uber weapon. I love reach and beasting with big weapons.

[SilentGrief]

I pretty much stuck with my Black Knight Halberd ever since I got it. At +5 it's a beast.

[Chrian]

does black knight sword beat drakesword?

[SilentGrief]

Damage-wise, yes. Although it's a Great Sword so it's a good bit slower than the Drake Sword.

[Tekki]

Black Knights have a Halberd? Droool.

[tyven]

Very much so. Someone posted earlier they got invaded 8 times in one run till they finally died.

GOING FOR IT. BRING IT ON PUSSIES

[Ragnell]

do I need to be IN the forest? I've been here for hours now, this shit is dumb

[Rokku]

Black Knights have a Halberd? Droool.

Black knights have a sword, greatsword and halberd, iirc. Also a shield.