GOP: Raped? Pay for it yourself.

**Salodin** · 2011-02-02 10:01

While he is exaggerating, his point still stands that free abortions for all with out limits is a bad idea. Rape victims I understand, but if it's the result of a poor decision from both parties involved, then they need to deal with it.

**Ashmada** · 2011-02-02 10:40

People yelling "abuse" are funny.

Woman: "Honey, I'm pregnant!"
Man: "Do we want it?"
Woman: "Nah, fuck that baby"
Man: "Abortion it is. But how do we abuse the system and get the government to fund it?"
Woman: "We'll say you raped me!"
Man: "Won't I... be jailed?"
Woman: "Guess so! Oh, well, it's price to pay for free abortions!"

Srsly. Potential for abuse is damn low.
And yes, she does have to say her boyfriend/husband is the rapist, given DNA tests.

**SwampdonkeyPLD** · 2011-02-02 10:51

Originally Posted by ZarakiKujata

The implication of people in the ghetto on welfare driving cadillacs is a reference to the welfare queen myth of the 1980s used by Reagan to demonize black people on welfare. That's why its racist.

It's an urban legend with no basis in reality, and has no place in this or any debate on abortion, welfare or other social services for poor folks.

Yea, Cadillac's isn't true anymore. Now they focus more on big screen TV's, cable, etc.

**archibaldcrane** · 2011-02-02 10:59

Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD

Yea, Cadillac's isn't true anymore. Now they focus more on big screen TV's, cable, etc.

It's nice to see you've moved past all that ugliness with the GOP trying to pile on rape victims, and have gotten back to your base of demonizing welfare recipients. Much more comfortable there.

**SwampdonkeyPLD** · 2011-02-02 11:03

Those are the words of an Obama supporting pre-trial release officer.

And there is still nothing wrong with the statute in my eyes, aside from ambiguity.

**Kurokikaze** · 2011-02-02 11:33

Originally Posted by ZarakiKujata

Racist much?

Not at all. I'm actually looking at it as a hispanic dude from Washington Heights who saw this go on among his own people. >.>;

Maybe I should've said "cholos with hydraulics" or something. But the Escalade thing doesn't just apply to black people lol..

Meh the whole thing about big screen TVs is stupid... Cause they're so cheap now and you can't even find tube TVs anymore.

**greenhills** · 2011-02-02 11:34

I was wondering when this topic would be brought up. some more links that i had bookmarked on it: http://motherjones.com/politics/2010...ned-parenthood ; http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-3 ; http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3/show

@swampdonkey: a question that a friend of mine asked when that 911 Micheal Moore movie came out and some conservatives released a couple crappy rebuttals, why are republicans not funny? answer: because apparently assholes aren't very funny.

**ZarakiKujata** · 2011-02-02 11:45

Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD

Yea, Cadillac's isn't true anymore. Now they focus more on big screen TV's, cable, etc.

Cadillacs was never true. But fuck them niggers, they don't deserve welfare so they can stay up on that crack rock amirite? They should have to ride up to the corner boys dealing on their rimless bicycle.

Also lol big screen TV's. You don't need $ to get a big screen tv, theres a reason Rent-A-Center is in all the poor parts of town, you can get the tv for next to nothing if you're willing to sacrifice your credit and cough up extortion money once a month when you can't pay. And sure I'm sure there are plenty of people that pay that monthly bill out of their welfare check but it's not like they are BUYING brand new HD tvs by trading their welfare check for cash.

Edit: Kurokikaze there is a bit of a difference imo between putting hydraulics into an old hooptie and buying a brand new ~$60k SUV on many levels, not least of which, is you would probably have to not eat for decades to be able to afford a Cadillac on a welfare check.

**Kurokikaze** · 2011-02-02 11:55

True true, I was just looking for the spanish equivalent to Cadillacs since thats a "black thing" apparently. But I came short.

Btw, even though I'm against govt funded abortions because of the possible abuse... I'm not against social programs like welfare/medicare/social security. For every few people I see that abuse that system theres a handful out there that barely get by on that help alone. I think it should be better regulated/monitored and there are things that could be cut from it, but scratched completely? No way.

Weird right?

**archibaldcrane** · 2011-02-02 12:24

Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD

And there is still nothing wrong with the statute in my eyes, aside from ambiguity.

Ok, just wanted to make sure you don't support gov't funded abortions for all rape victims.

**BardonGaruda** · 2011-02-02 12:28

If the current definition of rape is good enough for the courts to convict someone they should be good enough for funding for abortions for victims.

**ZarakiKujata** · 2011-02-02 12:41

Originally Posted by BardonGaruda

If the current definition of rape is good enough for the courts to convict someone they should be good enough for funding for abortions for victims.

Changing that is step 2 brah. Removing rapists from prison and the criminal justice system will be a good way to cut budgets and save some money.

**archibaldcrane** · 2011-02-02 12:41

Originally Posted by BardonGaruda

If the current definition of rape is good enough for the courts to convict someone they should be good enough for funding for abortions for victims.

Typical liberal, relying on the courts for legal definitions. If there's not tears, bruising, and violence, it's not rape-y enough for the GOP.

GOP - The Party of Real Rape!

**Kurokikaze** · 2011-02-02 12:48

The GOP is like that uncle that paid your tuition but raped and molested you.

**ZarakiKujata** · 2011-02-02 13:00

Originally Posted by Kurokikaze

The GOP is like that uncle that paid your tuition but raped and molested you.

stolen from Chris Rock about America and black people.

**SwampdonkeyPLD** · 2011-02-02 13:29

Originally Posted by archibaldcrane

Ok, just wanted to make sure you don't support gov't funded abortions for all rape victims.

The only rape this statute does not cover is the rape you brought up, consenting statutory rape. And I'm pretty sure coercion is a form of force, so if their was brainwashing going on they would be covered.

And why is that the GOP is heartless when it's been shown over and over again they give more to charity than liberals do? I mean, at least the GOP is willing to give away their own money instead of everyone else's

**Kurokikaze** · 2011-02-02 13:31

Originally Posted by ZarakiKujata

stolen from Chris Rock about America and black people.

I'm glad someone got the reference. :D

**Melena** · 2011-02-02 13:32

Ehh most rich people (not just GOP) donate to charity's for tax write offs. Not cause they truly care.

**ZarakiKujata** · 2011-02-02 13:33

More guilt to assuage as well.

**chiyio** · 2011-02-02 13:39

Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD

And why is that the GOP is heartless when it's been shown over and over again they give more to charity than liberals do? I mean, at least the GOP is willing to give away their own money instead of everyone else's

That's mostly because of the the mormons and other highly religious people that are paying 10% of their income (which is required for mormons) to the church counts as giving to charity.

I'd like to see who gives more to charities that AREN'T churches.

A church isn't a charity, and I don't know why they get to claim to be

*I don't actually have a reference for this, but I'm pretty sure that's correct, somebody can correct me if I'm wrong. Utah being the #1 most charitable state seems to back me up though.

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