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    Honestly, i really don't get the issue here. Who the fuck cares if people get can a free abortion courtesy of the state? Honestly, i find it silly that if a woman can't afford an abortion, that the state doesn't cover it, regardless of how she conceived, and that insurance companies can't cover it to be absolute bullshit.

    Actually how does it work now? Can anyone just walk into a clinic, say they were raped, and get a free abortion, no questions asked?

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    The only thing that I can imagine being worse than being raped is having your rapist's baby, something else that some Republicans are in favor for, but that's another debate for another time.

    People are always going to cheat the system. Rape is the most horrible thing a woman can go through and it's disgusting that people scream it in situations that it's not, because in hindsight they made a mistake and don't want to take responsibility for it. It's something that's unavoidable though. You can't punish the women who legitimately go through this.

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    because a few people might screw the system means nobody can get the help they need?
    I honestly feel like the GOP never keep this in mind with any bullshit thing they try to do. They would rather let 100 innocent people get screwed over then let one person get away with something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    I honestly feel like the GOP never keep this in mind with any bullshit thing they try to do. They would rather let 100 innocent people get screwed over then let one person get away with something.
    which, ironically enough, is the opposite of liberty. checkmate, republicans

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    You'd imagine some reasonable doubt would be all it would take to get someone what they deserve. But yeah, I do agree that it is better to have a few people cheating the system than to potentially screw a single innocent person over. However, we all know the GOP's highest priority is to create some impossibly perfect system that no one can take advantage of... all for how much taxpayer money potentially "saved?"

    If only common sense applied.

    In the end, I'm just curious. What kind of (made up) percent of "rapes" result in a pregnancy? How could this bill even have results significant enough to argue for?

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    It doesn't. But it gets play on cable news as republicans trying to cutting the spending. Nothing either party does, short of reforming Social Security/Medicare, cutting defense spending and raising taxes will do anything significant.

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    This will probably rub some people the wrong way, but I'm all for government paid abortions for any situation, especially rape (of any kind).

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    Yeah that would get abused so hard. People in the ghetto not using contraceptives cause they can get govt paid abortions. The same fools with Escalades while living in the projects - those dumb motherfuckers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurokikaze View Post
    Yeah that would get abused so hard. People in the ghetto not using contraceptives cause they can get govt paid abortions. The same fools with Escalades while living in the projects - those dumb motherfuckers.
    They could just give condoms away too. That even has the benefit of not KILLING UNBORN BABIES, OMG!

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    Probably, but the alternative is government paying welfare for that same woman to raise that child.

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    I've never understood the people that say abortions are a viable method of birth control. From what I have heard, it's a rather painful and horrible experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11 View Post
    I've never understood the people that say abortions are a viable method of birth control. From what I have heard, it's a rather painful and horrible experience.
    And generally dangerous with severe consequences like sterility even under the best conditions. Not to say that it shouldn't be an option though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11 View Post
    I've never understood the people that say abortions are a viable method of birth control. From what I have heard, it's a rather painful and horrible experience.
    http://www.plannedparenthood.org/hea...rtion-4354.asp

    It's basically a miscarriage.

    I have no idea how other methods are, but that one seems pretty simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rog View Post
    http://www.plannedparenthood.org/hea...rtion-4354.asp

    It's basically a miscarriage.

    I have no idea how other methods are, but that one seems pretty simple.
    ...and miscarriages are fucking painful and horrifying

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11 View Post
    I've never understood the people that say abortions are a viable method of birth control. From what I have heard, it's a rather painful and horrible experience.
    Watch the film "Blue Valentine".

    Not only because it's fantastic, but man it has a truly terrible scene in it.

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    This is something I'm only partially knowledgeable about, but, isn't it common (or, maybe not common, but, not unusual) in Japan for women to just skip condom use and get an abortion when the situation arises?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurokikaze View Post
    Yeah that would get abused so hard. People in the ghetto not using contraceptives cause they can get govt paid abortions. The same fools with Escalades while living in the projects - those dumb motherfuckers.
    Racist much?

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    I don't see a comment at all about race in there...

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    Cadillac Escalades with dubs are very popular with black rappers, combined with the use of "ghetto" and "projects", it's very clear Chari is talking about black people.

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    The implication of people in the ghetto on welfare driving cadillacs is a reference to the welfare queen myth of the 1980s used by Reagan to demonize black people on welfare. That's why its racist.

    It's an urban legend with no basis in reality, and has no place in this or any debate on abortion, welfare or other social services for poor folks.

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