Glee

[Ivve]

if you believe that too, why didn't you just say that from the start instead of being vague as a motherfucker and making this a protracted fucking conversation? you could have just said "yeah that's what i believe too"

[Mizango]

motherfucker you were the one who brought tyler perry into this shit in the first place. now you are literally spitting the same shit back at me that i just said.

Leroy Leroy'in.

[Ivve]

seriously, you desperately need to get to the goddamned point when you talk

[Chun Liroy]

So then why have a whole network called black entertainment if nothing is really "black"?

[Ivve]

because that's some stupid racist shit

[Chun Liroy]

if you believe that too, why didn't you just say that from the start instead of being vague as a motherfucker and making this a protracted fucking conversation? you could have just said "yeah that's what i believe too"

Note how I said the exact opposite, I was using tyler perry as an example to cite my point.

Just because it covers a small spectrum of the actual "lifestyle", if you will, doesn't mean that it's not an accurate representation in some aspects.

Add on "and should be classified as such." All better now?

[Ivve]

if rap, hip hop, and r&b were exclusively black, there would be no people other than blacks who make that music or listen to it. that's clearly untrue, so it's fucking stupid. they slapped that name on it to make it appeal to a particular kind of person who buys into that sort of racist bullshit without realizing it.

[Chun Liroy]

because that's some stupid racist shit

So black people are racist against black people?

[Ivve]

Note how I said the exact opposite, I was using tyler perry as an example to cite my point.

Add on "and should be classified as such." All better now?

okay, now it sounds like you are disagreeing with what i said, even though you actually agree with what i said. i honestly have no idea what the fuck you mean. your first tyler perry name drop looked like you were supporting the idea that something could be defined as "black" without that being narrow and racist as fuck. your second one just now (which came WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY the fuck after i made my point) looks like you agree with me in saying the opposite is true.

look i just don't even know what you're talking about.

[Chun Liroy]

Stereotypes are there for a reason, more often than not they are pretty much right.

[Ivve]

So black people are racist against black people?

black people do not do themselves any favors. i think any black person who supports a tyler perry movie should be slapped in the face and made to sit in the corner for an hour. yes, you are supporting a black director and cast of black actors. however, you're also supporting and promoting stories that are stereotypical and predominantly negative. it's not a good look.

[Chun Liroy]

okay, now it sounds like you are disagreeing with what i said, even though you actually agree with what i said. i honestly have no idea what the fuck you mean. your first tyler perry name drop looked like you were supporting the idea that something could be defined as "black" without that being narrow and racist as fuck. your second one just now (which came WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY the fuck after i made my point) looks like you agree with me in saying the opposite is true.

look i just don't even know what you're talking about.

Now you are just being racist. Complex things aren't just black and white answers.

[Ivve]

Stereotypes are there for a reason, more often than not they are pretty much right.

bitch i lived in memphis, which is the darkest city in the fuckin union. i recognize this. i also recognize that there are enough people who fall on the outside of a stereotype that it's fucking wrong to assume that about people and apply it to them. i would never assume you're eating fried chicken you bought with food stamps so you could support your air jordans and rims habit. those people exist, but i wouldn't promote that as "the black lifestyle" like it's the way most black people live.

[Chun Liroy]

Miz, check your FB for some MLK shit.

[Mizango]

black people do not do themselves any favors. i think any black person who supports a tyler perry movie should be slapped in the face and made to sit in the corner for an hour. yes, you are supporting a black director and cast of black actors. however, you're also supporting and promoting stories that are stereotypical and predominantly negative. it's not a good look.

On the money. Watching a Tyler Perry movie is the closest thing you get to being a fly on the wall at a coon picnic.

[Ivve]

Now you are just being racist. Complex things aren't just black and white answers.

what in the fuck

does anyone else see this happening, or just me?

[Chun Liroy]

bitch i lived in memphis, which is the darkest city in the fuckin union. i recognize this. i also recognize that there are enough people who fall on the outside of a stereotype that it's fucking wrong to assume that about people and apply it to them. i would never assume you're eating fried chicken you bought with food stamps so you could support your air jordans and rims habit. those people exist, but i wouldn't promote that as "the black lifestyle" like it's the way most black people live.

Look, I'm not saying the view is not racist, I'm just asking people their opinion on it, since like kuya said, it is widely viewed that Glee is poisonous to masculinity.

[Ivve]

seriously leroy, you're arguing both sides here and it's confusing.

[Chun Liroy]

being a fly on the wall at a coon picnic.

I resent that.

[Chun Liroy]

seriously leroy, you're arguing both sides here and it's confusing.

Probably because I fall somewhere in the middle while at the same time (trying) playing devil's advocate.