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  1. #2721
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    One last questing before I steel my resolve and take the plunge again. Would I need to get all three of the Abyssea scenarios or would the first be enough for advancement just starting out?

  2. #2722
    Blue Magic is Best Magic
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    People hardly exp in the visions areas anymore. A lot of the good atma is in scars/hero.

  3. #2723
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    I just got a torrent of all the updates etc from my ls mate, I recently bought the game on steam as well. Where do I copypasta all the rom files to? There isnt a program file for Playonline because I got it through steam. Thx!

  4. #2724
    Can't dazzle with brilliance, Baffling with bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cookiecutter View Post
    New poster here, a user of the Bahamut server, I was refered here as the best source to find an answer for those who seek to learn. Formalities aside, having not played for a while, I would like to regain some sense of what is worth leveling these days. (Like SAM back in the day.) Initial results pointed me toward NIN, MNK, and WAR, but I'm not quite sure what's the best route to take. Some basics:

    -I enjoy soloing
    -I prefer questing/fighting NMs for gear instead of spending ludicrous amounts of gil.
    -I love tanking
    -I love making big numbers appear in my parser.

    Now, which of these jobs has the most benefits entailing most of the criteria above? I would love some basic gear set ups too to get me started, and which subs work the best these days too. Thank you for assistance, and what not.
    Focus on MNK. MNK + WHM can pretty much duo the whole world and MNK/DNC or /NIN can solo a whole lot of stuff. For subs, NIN WAR and DNC. My MNK is still level 44 so could use some ideas for gear sets myself.

    Aurore Doublet set is an acceptable placeholder while getting better stuff (full timing full set is still a crime though).

  5. #2725
    Can't dazzle with brilliance, Baffling with bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    People hardly exp in the visions areas anymore. A lot of the good atma is in scars/hero.
    Don't forget the empyrean armour that succeeds in making all the old gear obsolete pretty well. Those come from scars/hero zones too.

  6. #2726
    Smells like Onions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taube View Post
    Focus on MNK. MNK + WHM can pretty much duo the whole world and MNK/DNC or /NIN can solo a whole lot of stuff. For subs, NIN WAR and DNC. My MNK is still level 44 so could use some ideas for gear sets myself.

    Aurore Doublet set is an acceptable placeholder while getting better stuff (full timing full set is still a crime though).
    Thank you, is MNK rather lax in gil consumption compared to it's nin counterpart? I hated how much tools set me back back then :\.

  7. #2727
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    So I'm about to hit 90 on my warrior, just started playing again from back when WotG first came out. What gear should I be looking at getting? I dont even know whats good anymore or how to get it...

  8. #2728
    An exploitable mess of a card game
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cookiecutter View Post
    Thank you, is MNK rather lax in gil consumption compared to it's nin counterpart? I hated how much tools set me back back then :\.
    You can save Shihei by riding counterstance in some cases, but the bulk of your cost will derive from elemental tools. Since those comprise the bulk of NIN tool cost, and NIN benefits from Ninja tools expertise, I would argue that MNK pays more in tools.

  9. #2729
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoony Bob View Post
    One last questing before I steel my resolve and take the plunge again. Would I need to get all three of the Abyssea scenarios or would the first be enough for advancement just starting out?
    I wouldn't skip 1 simply because "people don't go there that much anymore." They all have equal numbers of each abyssite. Being able to access all 3 Celerity abyssites is going to get you up and running so much quicker in Abyssea. Not to mention 6 Merit abyssites for a total of +60% hp and +30% mp. Voracious Violet and Beyond are hardly obsolete Atmas.

  10. #2730
    Smells like Onions
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    My last question is, when does /NIN and /WAR both have their best uses? Can I get away with /WAR most of the time on NMs, or are there exceptions? Also, which server is the friendliest/most populated?

  11. #2731
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cymmina View Post
    I wouldn't skip 1 simply because "people don't go there that much anymore." They all have equal numbers of each abyssite. Being able to access all 3 Celerity abyssites is going to get you up and running so much quicker in Abyssea. Not to mention 6 Merit abyssites for a total of +60% hp and +30% mp. Voracious Violet and Beyond are hardly obsolete Atmas.
    Herp derp, I never said "skip" it. If you read his post, "would the first be enough for advancement just starting out?". No it wouldn't be enough, you should get all three or at least scars + visions.

  12. #2732
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    Where can I find data relating to non-crit pDIF distribution when uncapped?

  13. #2733
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    AF3+2 legs vs Ares legs for Ukko's inside and outside abyssea?

    Also, does augment DA work on WS?

  14. #2734
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazmaz View Post
    AF3+2 legs vs Ares legs for Ukko's inside and outside abyssea?

    Also, does augment DA work on WS?
    There is an in depth discussion on that FFXIAH site, it looked like they prefered Ravager Pants+2 over even things like Hachi pants.

  15. #2735
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    ok, just got a new laptop, had all expanded services available. all major expansions, acp/mkd/asa, all 3 abysseas, been using them for a while. reinstalled on new computer from a torrent, and it isn't showing any of the expansions as available. what do i do?

    if it helps, windows 7, when i look at content ids, my char has a blue dot next to it, but all the expansions have red dots.

  16. #2736
    If I screw up again Im gone forever.
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    Do you take extra damage while running? Is this something that was added recently or has it been around for a while?

  17. #2737
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    If from not facing the mob to potentially guard/parry/counter, yeah.

  18. #2738
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    Nope, for some reason, for example, when I'm pulling a mob to a safe spot, it'll do like 60 points of damage each hit, then after that average about 20~ and 40 max lol.

  19. #2739
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    Nope, for some reason, for example, when I'm pulling a mob to a safe spot, it'll do like 60 points of damage each hit, then after that average about 20~ and 40 max lol.
    Outside abyssea with signet?

  20. #2740
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cookiecutter View Post
    My last question is, when does /NIN and /WAR both have their best uses? Can I get away with /WAR most of the time on NMs, or are there exceptions? Also, which server is the friendliest/most populated?
    I wouldn't be able to answer anything about servers, but Mnk/War is a definite go on most things inside Abyssea these days (there are only a few specific exceptions where utsusemi is nice to have, otherwise you gain a lot more fulltiming Counterstance). When you're outside Abyssea, it really depends on how much support you have. Mages will no longer have infinite MP, so if you're fighting something with the TP moves and Spells to smash your HP too often you'll be in trouble /WAR.

    MNK definitely fits the "Fight NMs for gear instead of gil" criteria. An ideal TP set has maybe 1 buyable piece at most. That said, Black Belt can still be a pain to get these days given the popularity of the job. Faith Torque is also as stingy as ever. You would have to spend gil on your MDT and PDT sets (most notably Arhat's/+1 and Avalon BP), but pretty much every job has to pay for those sets anyways; and once you have them, they transfer over to most other jobs fairly well. I'd look into getting some good Augmented Dark Rings from Konschtat, you can get up to -6% PDT and MDT on the same ring (and -6% Breath Damage Taken, if that matters).

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