Random Question Thread XIX: Welcome to Flavor Country

[psykopat]

Hi everyone,

I can't find the information, what is the repop time for abyssean tier 3 VNM now ? Same than tier 2, 10-15 min ?

Thx in advance.

[Neisan]

About the same as T2.

[psykopat]

Thx I don't know why I had the feeling tier 3 had a greater repop than tier 2. Now to upgrade abyssites !

[Fereydoon]

Anyone have a BLM spellcast their willing to share?

[Byrthnoth]

How do WARs keep their dDEX high for Raging rush / Ukko's outside Abyssea these days? Our best WS gearset no longer has much DEX on it, so you face trading out STR and other bonuses for DEX in order to up your crit rate. Is it worth it, or is it better to just whore STR and let your crit rate be floored?

Atlas +2/Rose/____/AF3
AF3+2/Gorget/Aesir/Brutal
Zahak's/AF3+2*/Pyrosoul/Rajas
Atheling/Warwolf*/B.Haidates*/Heca feet*

* = would not be using if not for the DEX.

[Nermie]

Hey, I was curious which empyrean has the best potential for RNG. I really like what I hear of Wildfire, does Jisnu's compare at all? Overall, which would be the better choice, assuming all the best gear is attainable?

Armageddon suffers in overall damage due to it having a magical WS. In order to boost WS damage, you have to equip MAB type atmas. Jishnu's is a crit WS, so atmas will benefit regular shots along with WS damage. Overall, I think Jishnu's has a higher damage potential (not counting brewed).

I have Gandiva and haven't finished my Armageddon yet. I would say that Jishnu's is better based on other people's Wildfire numbers I've seen. I only shoot 1-2 arrows in abyssea between WS's so I think the ODD effect is minimal if you compare Gandiva+Antlion vs Armageddon+SilverBullet (most people are still using silver because they're better dmg/gil and readily available).

That being said, Armageddon is probably the best (or 2nd best) brew WS, but if you want to max that out I think you have to sub /RDM or something and you lose the benefit of /SAM when not brewing (assuming you don't want to have to rezone between brews).

[Soho]

I only shoot 1-2 arrows in abyssea between WS's

I'm getting close to being done with my Gandiva and I'm curious as to why you only shoot 1-2 arrows between WS's.

[Neisan]

How do WARs keep their dDEX high for Raging rush / Ukko's outside Abyssea these days? Our best WS gearset no longer has much DEX on it, so you face trading out STR and other bonuses for DEX in order to up your crit rate. Is it worth it, or is it better to just whore STR and let your crit rate be floored?

Atlas +2/Rose/____/AF3
AF3+2/Gorget/Aesir/Brutal
Zahak's/AF3+2*/Pyrosoul/Rajas
Atheling/Warwolf*/B.Haidates*/Heca feet*

* = would not be using if not for the DEX.

Twilight Mail is an option for body, Thundersoul Ring as well, I'm not too sure on Heca Feet vs Emp+2, Depends on total crit rate since I think you'd still need more DEX to cap dDEX but you should come fairly close with that setup (I estimated a ~17% crit rate from dDEX on a pseudo level 97 monster last time I was looking at outside abyssea, but current monsters have lower AGI). Aside from what you mentioned I probably wouldn't make any more tradeoffs though, maybe Aesir to Dex earring/Centaurus/Ravager's(?) if you were trying to eke out a little more DEX/attack/DA rate.

[Nermie]

I'm getting close to being done with my Gandiva and I'm curious as to why you only shoot 1-2 arrows between WS's.

RNG/SAM + regain atma(s)

I guess it depends on what the setup of the party is. I can easily pull hate from a blood tank on a mob like Glavoid with 2 or 3 WS. But honestly the only time you should care about not dying is while you're weakened, otherwise as long as pulling hate doesn't screw the setup up, then dying is fine and i'll shoot more arrows between WS.

Edit: Also, I'm usually triboxing on WHM+THF if I'm on RNG so I guess that changes the amount of time I have to shoot arrows lol

[Neisan]

Which Atmas? RR/GH/SA is what my friend was assuming would be a good setup but lacks regain. RR doesn't cap your ranged critical Rate, so it comes down to that vs regain, I don't have math on which one is better though.

[Nermie]

Which Atmas? RR/GH/SA is what my friend was assuming would be a good setup but lacks regain. RR doesn't cap your ranged critical Rate, so it comes down to that vs regain, I don't have math on which one is better though.

RR/GH is definitely approved.

For third atma, I guess it depends on what you're killing and how fast you're going to kill it. Take Glavoid for example, I'm always afraid of healing it because ranged delay is too long. So I will only WS and TP when I know it's safe. With that in mind, I'd rather be gaining TP from SD than have the benefits of SA atma. However, if you can safely zerg then go all out with SA.

I don't have Atma of the Omnipotent yet. Is it 50 DEX? I'd like to see how that improves Jishnu's

[Neisan]

Would be a -2 Razed to be honest, not worth it in my opinion. Figured that for Absorb damage monsters, I'll keep it in mind and tell him.

[Fereydoon]

Any reason to put more then one merit into a AM2 besides MAcc/nowhere else to put them?

[Byrthnoth]

Any reason to put more then one merit into a AM2 besides MAcc/nowhere else to put them?

Extra damage if you accidentally MB? Basically no.

[Skeelo]

anyone have any suggestions on a free stun bot type program? PM if you want. Thanks.

[Fwahm]

Can both Triple Attack and Double Attack each proc once on a single hit WS? For years, I had assumed they couldn't (but then, I never have Triple Attack outside abyssea, and only rarely used single hit WSs until recently), but I got a TP return corresponding to 3 additional hits.

Torcleaver does ~2000-2400 normally at 100 TP with 14 TP gain on IT Sand Sweepers, but one time, I got 17 TP, and did 4400 with it.

[Byrthnoth]

Can both Triple Attack and Double Attack each proc once on a single hit WS? For years, I had assumed they couldn't (but then, I never have Triple Attack outside abyssea, and only rarely used single hit WSs until recently), but I got a TP return corresponding to 3 additional hits.

Torcleaver does ~2000-2400 normally at 100 TP with 14 TP gain on IT Sand Sweepers, but one time, I got 17 TP, and did 4400 with it.

That's probably a triple attack. Because you use STP Gear/Atma/food/whatever even during WS, your additional hits give more than 1 TP (like 1.2 or 1.3 for instance). So you can get what appears to be +3 TP from 2 additional hits.

Like, normal WS: 14.6 TP return
WS with a DA (20-29 STP): 15.8 TP return
WS with a TA (20-29 STP): 17.0 TP return

[Pharaun]

I'm sure that it's just a Triple and your WS gear gives you enough TP in the decimal spot to get you to 17 on a triple, i.e. 14.4 tp return normally + 1.4 tp for each additional hit = 17.2 tp. If we knew your WS gear it'd be easy to figure it out exactly.

[Eldelphia]

Is there anyway to find out who owns a mule?

[LidenbokValour]

Any recommendations for 4 man bhukis? Also any mobs there that are decent for cleaving?