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  1. #801
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffy View Post
    RDM 90 able to brew Shinryu easily? Never done, never attempted, not sure what to expect.
    If you don't give a shit about procs, yes. Aeolian Edge/Cyclone him to death. Piece of cake. (or nuke him)

  2. #802
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    Really really easy if you wait for the wings to be down.
    Easy if you have to do it while wings are up, just don't cast while he's casting or TPing.

  3. #803
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esvedium View Post
    Is the WSDamage or STP g.axe worth doing? I'm not going to do a Ukon/Maschu, just want a good axe to cleave/fuck around with.

    Fire trials look like a bitch, because fire weather doesn't exist anywhere ever. PDT might help with cleave, I guess... Right now, my best g.axe is vermeil (and only lv78 atm, but xp is easy enough to get), so looking for a step up on that.
    WS damage if not Ukon/Maschu if you're going to be using it for Cleaving as STP does nothing for Cleaving. Fire is probably better for Raging but WS damage should be better for cleaving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan View Post
    WS damage if not Ukon/Maschu if you're going to be using it for Cleaving as STP does nothing for Cleaving. Fire is probably better for Raging but WS damage should be better for cleaving.
    Awesome! Thanks much! Off to start a WSDmg one now.... and skill up. >_>

  5. #805
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    Anyone know if wardrobe/LGM flag got fixed yet?

  6. #806
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    I see a lot of people doing WHM/BRD in Abyssea, which I assume is for procing threnody staggers. Is it possible to land threnodies as WHM/BRD? What gear/atma/stats would one need to do so? Thanks.

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    5% rule, gear doesn't help much, it's idiotic all around

    have blm sub brd and they can es threnody(which doesn't resist unless mob is immune)

    if you really need to have the whm do it, wait for a discern and spam it(though 5% rule means you're going to be looking at an average of 10 min so you better start before you know its threnody)

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    Better evasion piece for nin hand slot? Iga Tekko +2, Usu Gote, or Seiryu's?

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    honestly with macc gear and macc atmas and a little bit of luck its really not all that bad to proc /brd. (i've gone blu/brd and proc'd thren on shit like alfard without too much hassle).

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    Quote Originally Posted by xIndustrialxAngelx View Post
    Better evasion piece for nin hand slot? Iga Tekko +2, Usu Gote, or Seiryu's?
    Is this a real question? Iga tekko.

    Seiryu's is shit compared to Tekko+2, and the only time Gote could even be a competitive option is if you were stacking a counter build, and even then it's probably worse.

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    lot of things are involved, if it's an ichi set then you're better off with usu gote(1.5% eva rate vs 2% counter.. if you're in a certain eva range the eva rate wins but it's very easy to go over eva cap on most things).. if you're meleeing in evasion you probably should just use your haste gloves and get evasion elsewhere(you don't need a ton to cap on 95% of everything)

    i own both and carry the usu not the iga :s reality is that you're going to cap regardless if you're dropping all haste and counter does something past cap while additional evasion does not.. and if you aren't dropping all haste hands are a pretty poor tradeoff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    lot of things are involved, if it's an ichi set then you're better off with usu gote(1.5% eva rate vs 2% counter.. if you're in a certain eva range the eva rate wins but it's very easy to go over eva cap on most things).. if you're meleeing in evasion you probably should just use your haste gloves and get evasion elsewhere(you don't need a ton to cap on 95% of everything)

    i own both and carry the usu not the iga :s reality is that you're going to cap regardless if you're dropping all haste and counter does something past cap while additional evasion does not.. and if you aren't dropping all haste hands are a pretty poor tradeoff
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but assuming you're at a point where you actually gain something from equipping eva gear, wouldn't the extra 1.5% eva beat out 2% counter the majority of the time? If you're absolutely floored (with eva on) or absolutely capped (before eva gear), the counter would win for sure. But, just looking at a few sample points (going to assume GH atma and +2 legs with innin, being generous and saying it's 20% base counter, and acc is 100% for simplicity), and purely from a defensive standpoint as nullification of damage.

    20% eva is 36% nullification. +1.5% eva is 37.2% null, +2% counter is 37.6%. Counter wins.
    30% eva is 44% nullification. +1.5% eva is 45.2% null, +2% counter is 45.4%. Counter wins.
    40% eva is 52% nullification. +1.5% eva is 53.2% null, +2% counter is 53.2%. Tie.
    50% eva is 60% nullficiation. +1.5% eva is 61.2% null, +2% counter is 61%. Eva wins.

    So even giving everything I could in favor of counter, it still looses as long as evasion is >40%. Factor in accuracy and it drops even lower. Granted, this is PURELY defensive, and counter does add something to your offense which has to be gauged as well, so I guess Gote aren't such a bad choice there.

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    For a DRK/SAM using Torcleaver in abyssea,

    Voracious Violet/Razed Ruins/Apocalypse or Griffon's Claw/Razed Ruins/Apocalypse?

    Torcleaver doesn't have a STR mod, and fSTR is capped from cruor buffs and gear already, so was wondering if the +20% WS damage and 10 gsd skill would help more than the 37.5 attack, 2/tic regain, and 5% double attack.

  14. #814
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    Doing staff trials for BLM right now and I fucking hate the hell out of it. About to finish ice staff then moving on to thunder. Is it normal to want to kill something small and innocent while doing these? Or is the ice staff just that bad (reading the staff thread it was the second most bitched about).

    I'm considering that I almost never nuke anything else, doing the other 'neccesary' ones (Wind, Earth, Fire) as ACC staves. Fire for Addle on RDM. lolWater staff - my Neptune's is just fine for that. Fuck Ice ACC, I'll take the hit and using a damage staff keep inventory +1.

    For dark, whats better ACC or Damage? I'm guessing ACC, but I've never read how sleeps / drain / aspir are affected, and want to make sure before I spend a shit load of time on a staff thats useless.

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    All of the trials blow, and Dark Magic Accuracy definitely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apelila View Post
    Doing staff trials for BLM right now and I fucking hate the hell out of it. About to finish ice staff then moving on to thunder. Is it normal to want to kill something small and innocent while doing these? Or is the ice staff just that bad (reading the staff thread it was the second most bitched about).

    I'm considering that I almost never nuke anything else, doing the other 'neccesary' ones (Wind, Earth, Fire) as ACC staves. Fire for Addle on RDM. lolWater staff - my Neptune's is just fine for that. Fuck Ice ACC, I'll take the hit and using a damage staff keep inventory +1.

    For dark, whats better ACC or Damage? I'm guessing ACC, but I've never read how sleeps / drain / aspir are affected, and want to make sure before I spend a shit load of time on a staff thats useless.
    They're all miserably terrible, but not nearly as terrible as before abyssea. Get the enhances aquaveil belt and just -ga shit.

  17. #817
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    abyssea boss title NPC?

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    Any chance I can dual box whm + thf Ningishzida?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horcrux View Post
    All of the trials blow, and Dark Magic Accuracy definitely.
    I disagree with this. How often do you have trouble sleeping something that isn't immune to sleep? If you only get one, I would get dark damage for the big boost to drain/aspir and the nice little casting time bonus that comes with it.

  20. #820
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    Why is thorny banned? Seems to have been quite informative lately excluding a little minor trolling.

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