Random Question Thread XIX: Welcome to Flavor Country

**Colenzo** · 2011-02-20 22:44

Originally Posted by Darkmagi

Why is thorny banned? Seems to have been quite informative lately excluding a little minor trolling.

All he does is troll. lol

**cdgreg** · 2011-02-20 22:49

Originally Posted by Jimothy

I disagree with this. How often do you have trouble sleeping something that isn't immune to sleep? If you only get one, I would get dark damage for the big boost to drain/aspir and the nice little casting time bonus that comes with it.

Seconding this. Radec posted some #s awhile back when I asked showing how little skill above 300 mattered for dark magic, but adding dark magic dmg raises drain/aspir.

**Jimothy** · 2011-02-20 23:21

Was this before the update where they changed dark magic? I remember it used to be after 300 skill there wasn't an increase in potency but after that update I thought there wasn't really an upper cap found yet for drain/aspir.

**psubond** · 2011-02-20 23:25

ok so i'm getting back into doing detachments after i got out of the military (got a civilian job working for the navy...nice job getting away huh >.>)

anyways i use a G11 keyboard with the g15 binder and i was wondering if there were any peripherals i could use with a laptop to that were similar to being able to use the G keys without having to drag my G11 everywhere with me. thinking something along the lines of a nostromo speed pad type device that i could program through my init.txt file like i can with my gkeys.

**Stromgarde** · 2011-02-20 23:31

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboa...d/devices/5123 seems to be the sort of thing you're looking for. However, I do not believe support is present for it in the windower plugin.

**Kalisa** · 2011-02-20 23:33

I haven't spent dominion notes before. Was browsing the list of DN items and it seems like the only real way to spend them is the augment lottery on the weapons? Am I right, or is it worth keeping some notes around for temp items for big battles (bearing in mind I don't have a LS and never really find myself in that situation)?

Thanks in advance.

**Yugl** · 2011-02-20 23:38

Originally Posted by cdgreg

They're all miserably terrible, but not nearly as terrible as before abyssea. Get the enhances aquaveil belt and just -ga shit.

What does the belt do for aquaveil?

**psubond** · 2011-02-20 23:42

Originally Posted by Stromgarde

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboa...d/devices/5123 seems to be the sort of thing you're looking for. However, I do not believe support is present for it in the windower plugin.

thx. i'll try to figure out if i can use that if so that'll be the ticket. will just rewrite my int file if needed. if it can't be used...i'll figure out a way to hammer square peg into round hole.

**Cream Soda** · 2011-02-21 00:02

Originally Posted by Cream Soda

abyssea boss title NPC?

or if there isn't one, would like confirmation

**Fievel** · 2011-02-21 00:05

There's Zuah Lepahnyu in port jeuno, I know she gives various Abyssea titles, whether its zone boss titles or not though I'm not sure

Edit: She's at J-8 btw

**Cream Soda** · 2011-02-21 00:08

thanks

**testdummy** · 2011-02-21 00:12

Originally Posted by Cream Soda

abyssea boss title NPC?

Its in Port Jeuno near the chocobo stadium.

**Draylo** · 2011-02-21 00:50

Originally Posted by Darkmagi

Why is thorny banned? Seems to have been quite informative lately excluding a little minor trolling.

Thought he was temp banned earlier because people were getting mad and I posted a pic and he responded, dunno why he is banned though.

**cdgreg** · 2011-02-21 00:53

Originally Posted by Yugl

What does the belt do for aquaveil?

Lets you take a lot more hits before aquaveil wears.

edit: I don't have any exact #s, but reminds me of old skulker's cape effect. Rarely aquaveil will still wear off "quickly" other times it'll last forever. When working on staves I'd pretty much just re-aqua after each -ga/sleepga with 6-8 mobs and never had it wear.

**Gun-it** · 2011-02-21 01:24

whats the ratio for skill to acc/att for 300+?

**cdgreg** · 2011-02-21 01:26

Originally Posted by Jimothy

Was this before the update where they changed dark magic? I remember it used to be after 300 skill there wasn't an increase in potency but after that update I thought there wasn't really an upper cap found yet for drain/aspir.

I can't remember when I asked, was probably before update, may have been last summer. But I guess that raises the question of will dark affinity: magic accuracy actually raise cap or just lessen resists. I'd be inclined to guess only decrease resists. I look at it as dark magic skill is equivalent to magic accuracy, but magic accuracy is not equivalent to dark magic skill.

Am I thinking about this right?

**Jimothy** · 2011-02-21 01:55

Prior to the update (I believe the 80 cap update but I'm not certain), dark magic skill added accuracy and potency up to 300 skill, after which additional dark magic skill did not give enhanced potency. After the update dark magic skill continues to grant potency beyond 300 skill. CDF has done some testing on drain and aspir and has good info on his blog http://robonosto.blogspot.com/search/label/dark%20magic.

One of his tests showed that dark weather and also Pluto's staff increased potency past the previous hard cap for drain/aspir, which would lead me to assume that the dark damage+ staff would be the one to get. Dark accuracy will give you higher accuracy and less resists, but only up to the point where your accuracy is capped. Its hard to decide when your accuracy is capped given the seemingly random nature of dark magic, but considering that stacking dark magic skill is best for potency and accuracy, and also that with atmas and cruor buffs boosting your m. acc, it seems reasonable that your accuracy is going to be capped or near cap most of the time.

**Radec** · 2011-02-21 02:32

Originally Posted by cdgreg

Seconding this. Radec posted some #s awhile back when I asked showing how little skill above 300 mattered for dark magic, but adding dark magic dmg raises drain/aspir.

Originally Posted by Jimothy

Was this before the update where they changed dark magic? I remember it used to be after 300 skill there wasn't an increase in potency but after that update I thought there wasn't really an upper cap found yet for drain/aspir.

My (large) set of aspirs was pre-update, haven't had the time to make a sample size even close (original set was 9 months of logs at 75) but yes, dark-dmg definitely raises the cap on drain/aspir(2).

Edit: /slow

If there was a place (like dynamis-2?) where enfeeb macc was uncapped and sleeps were needed I might consider a dark-macc staff, but for now don't see much point. Dark Magic with all the skill you end up piling on (354+62 for me, compared to 361+22+16(merits) elemental) is going to be more accurate than your nukes.

Also yes, the 80cap raise was the drain/aspir uncap patch.

**Jimothy** · 2011-02-21 03:05

This has got me thinking about finishing out my dark magic set now. How easy is Ix'MNK now? I realize I can solo on RDM or BLM but is a THF & WHM / RDM duo possible? I realize this may open that whole Mee Deggi can of worms but does TH matter for MNK?

**octoblush** · 2011-02-21 03:22

is there an updated gear haste table somewhere? i did a search and came up empty handed. Perhaps something Kirschy created?

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