Random Question Thread XIX: Welcome to Flavor Country

[Fievel]

it takes two to tango...you wont get many items with TH0 and blue proc.

fucking lol

Edit: The point was picking between the two, but lol

[Rikura]

Why fret when you can have both? But I'd take MNK for blue proc if I could only get one of the two And sub THF on my WHM mule or something

[Fievel]

Well obviously having both is better than just one, but that wasn't the point. Anyways this is just way derail at this point so I'm just gonna stop.

[Holyman]

I agree w/ Fievel .

The way Abyssea weakness system was developed , implies "you won't get shit if you didn't proc" , TH has been always placebo , why would you bother when you get drop with blue guranteed , not 100% but high chance .

I DARE YOU NYNJA to get drop that is supposed to drop with blue !! using TH only w/o going 1/10+ .

[Tifrece]

Me and two friends have recently reactivated and are starting to dabble in abyssea content. We were wondering, what would be the optimal job/number of people setup to low-man? We Would also like to cover all our bases, such as different proc's and preference to avoid 40+ minute fights.

*edit* I realize "optimal" varies from encounter to encounter, so multiple options would be appreciated along with an explanation on what makes them better in certain situations.

[Yugl]

I DARE YOU NYNJA to get drop that is supposed to drop with blue !! using TH only w/o going 1/10+ .

Watch out man, he might turn that around on you and bring up Atheling mantle.

[Fievel]

Me and two friends have recently reactivated and are starting to dabble in abyssea content. We were wondering, what would be the optimal job/number of people setup to low-man? We Would also like to cover all our bases, such as different proc's and preference to avoid 40+ minute fights.

*edit* I realize "optimal" varies from encounter to encounter, so multiple options would be appreciated along with an explanation on what makes them better in certain situations.

Oh let's see.

WAR NIN WHM can proc red on anything you need KI from, and kill the mob quickly.

MNK WHM BRD can proc blue on anything you need gear from, and kill the mob quickly.

MNK/NIN, BLU, WHM, BLM/BRD can proc grellow on anything you need items from, and kill quickly.


There are several different ways to go about it really though, obviously having a brd in any of those groups will improve kill speed, a thf for TH helps no matter what you're doing, abyssea is pretty easy mode, cover whatever !! you need and kill the mob.

Watch out man, he might turn that around on you and bring up Atheling mantle.

lmfao

[Nightfyre]

I agree w/ Fievel .

The way Abyssea weakness system was developed , implies "you won't get shit if you didn't proc" , TH has been always placebo , why would you bother when you get drop with blue guranteed , not 100% but high chance .

I DARE YOU NYNJA to get drop that is supposed to drop with blue !! using TH only w/o going 1/10+ .

I DARE YOU TO GET LUCKY

How does that prove anything? I went 1/1 on THF (/toss) and BLU Visions accessories with neither TH nor blue proc, clearly I hacked the game.

TH has an impact but blue has a more significant impact on the relevant drops, if you absolutely have to choose between one or the other (as in the original post) blue proc is the better option.

[NynJa]

I DARE YOU NYNJA to get drop that is supposed to drop with blue !! using TH only w/o going 1/10+ .

Are you guys fucking retards or just trolling? I never said blue is useless, I said that just riding blue!! hoping for drops is going to leave you disappointed more times than not.



[22:32:24]Kehhiko readies Asuran Fists.
[22:32:24]Your attack staggers the fiend!
[22:32:24]The fiend is unable to use special attacks.

...

[22:38:08]Kehhiko earns a merit point! (Total: 4)
[22:38:08]Kehhiko defeats the Rani.
[22:38:08]yYou find an Uther's grip
on the Rani.
[22:38:08]yYou find a Hecate's earring
on the Rani.
[22:38:13](Talrandir)

DURRRR BLUE IS GOD

[Michelob]

Are you guys fucking retards or just trolling? I never said blue is useless, I said that just riding blue!! hoping for drops is going to leave you disappointed more times than not.



[22:32:24]Kehhiko readies Asuran Fists.
[22:32:24]Your attack staggers the fiend!
[22:32:24]The fiend is unable to use special attacks.

...

[22:38:08]Kehhiko earns a merit point! (Total: 4)
[22:38:08]Kehhiko defeats the Rani.
[22:38:08]yYou find an Uther's grip
on the Rani.
[22:38:08]yYou find a Hecate's earring
on the Rani.
[22:38:13](Talrandir)

DURRRR BLUE IS GOD

Like others have said, if you have to pick between the Blue !! and a THF, just make your mage /THF. I normally don't use a THF for most things but rather get TH3 from my WHM. If I have an extra person laying around then sure. /THF is enough to get you a really good drop rate on Blue !!

[Chun Liroy]

Noobish question, just started back up... for some reason my entire numpad on my laptop doesn't like to register two buttons at once (as in, walking diagonalal, or targetting while walking), but I can target using tab while walking. Any idea what's causing this? Tested in firefox and it can accept two commands at once.

Sorry to interrupt your ye olde TH debate, but I googled and couldn't find anything on this. Anyone heard of this happening? Or is my laptop just herpderp retarded.

[Yugl]

Are you guys fucking retards or just trolling? I never said blue is useless, I said that just riding blue!! hoping for drops is going to leave you disappointed more times than not.

So basically, you ignored the fact that that the question only allows you to pick between blue!! or TH? And we're trolling?! Oh ok, I get it.

[Andradi]

MNK/NIN, BLU, WHM, BLM/BRD can proc grellow on anything you need items from, and kill quickly.

BLU can sub nin and drop the monk, obviously not quite as quick but if you're talking bare minimums...

[Tifrece]

Oh let's see.

WAR NIN WHM can proc red on anything you need KI from, and kill the mob quickly.

MNK WHM BRD can proc blue on anything you need gear from, and kill the mob quickly.

MNK/NIN, BLU, WHM, BLM/BRD can proc grellow on anything you need items from, and kill quickly.


There are several different ways to go about it really though, obviously having a brd in any of those groups will improve kill speed, a thf for TH helps no matter what you're doing, abyssea is pretty easy mode, cover whatever !! you need and kill the mob.

So if I understand this correctly, I could conceivably have:
1 WHM (Heal)
1 MNK (Tank)
and
1 Tifrece that switches between warrior/ninja/bluemage for different proc's

If the above is correct, my next question would be: Do the WS's/Ninjutsu spells have to land in order to get the trigger?

[NynJa]

So basically, you ignored the fact that that the question only allows you to pick between blue!! or TH? And we're trolling?! Oh ok, I get it.

Thats a fucking stupid question then, because if I could ONLY have blue!! or TH, I'd be like xbox360 and turn around and walk away keeping my pop set. I dont recall having to choose, because it doesnt matter if you have either or...if you only have 1 of the 2, you aint getting shit.

[Yugl]

How to think like a Nynja:

Step 1: Ignore what the question asks, but answer it anyways.

Step 2: Fend off dissenting opinions by calling non-believers stupid.

Step 3: When informed that your answer is irrelevant to the question, call the question stupid.

[Elysian]

Is it worth precasting rapid shot gear over af3+2 rng gear? (looking at head+body here.)

Also, anyone got a decent rng spellcast?

[Tribe]

Thats a fucking stupid question then, because if I could ONLY have blue!! or TH, I'd be like xbox360 and turn around and walk away keeping my pop set. I dont recall having to choose, because it doesnt matter if you have either or...if you only have 1 of the 2, you aint getting shit.

omg I cant decide if you or malacite are worse.

the basis of the question has nothing to do with anything, you answered it and you somehow answered and A or B question WRONG by saying All of the above.

Then people pointed out, if they had to choose ( thus answering said question correctly ) they would choose Blue !!, Which is the obvious choice because Blue !! is a greater increase then TH, Do most of us ONLY choose one? no. but if you only have a dual box and your choice is Mnk for Blue or Thf for TH, you bring Mnk.

[Nightfyre]

So if I understand this correctly, I could conceivably have:
1 WHM (Heal)
1 MNK (Tank)
and
1 Tifrece that switches between warrior/ninja/bluemage for different proc's

If the above is correct, my next question would be: Do the WS's/Ninjutsu spells have to land in order to get the trigger?

Yes. Anything that can partially resist/land for 0 damage you're fine, but a resist on a spell like Kurayami or a WS that simply misses will not proc.

[catfat]

Is it worth precasting rapid shot gear over af3+2 rng gear? (looking at head+body here.)

Also, anyone got a decent rng spellcast?

Doubtful, shooting for tp is pretty shitty in general