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  1. #1461
    Hydra
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    firefox + noscript addon + blocking scripts for xxxxclopedia prevented table resizing for me.

    Does light gorget/belt work on tachi: kaiten? In general, do the latent ws belts/gorgets activate on empyrean and relic weaponskills based on their level 3 skillchain properties? wiki has conflicting info.

  2. #1462
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    You can block any tp move via height difference, the patch just increased the z axis difference required to do so. Apademak pop isn't too far from the ramp next to t1 ???, could always pull it 1/2 way up and have mages stand up top.

  3. #1463
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    need to brew a few things on my mule, which can be either whm or blm. what would be my best bet? blm and toss spells? or would it still get interrupted? am i stuck just earth crushering things?

  4. #1464
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarman View Post
    need to brew a few things on my mule, which can be either whm or blm. what would be my best bet? blm and toss spells? or would it still get interrupted? am i stuck just earth crushering things?
    You can still get interrupted while brewing (though manafont would stop that.) On anything that can heal from damage (e.g. rani, shinryu), you're better off WSing for less risk of accidently healing. If it can't heal, nuking may do more damage.

    Cataclysm is likely to be better than earth crusher though.

  5. #1465
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    What's the optimal setup for brewing Rani?
    By this I mean jobs/sub jobs, time to pop, ws to use when brewing down with, best way to hold while proccing blue,etc.

  6. #1466
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    Taking a shot at this - please correct/improve if you have a better idea

    MNK/WAR+WHM to hold and trigger blue
    WAR+NIN to trigger red
    THF for TH unless you're comfortable with just TH4 (WHM/THF + TH Atma + TH belt - not that I have all this)

    Fight during blunt. Have the MNK trigger blue unless it's Hexa. If it's Hexa have the WHM pop a wing and Hexa it.
    Brew with NIN using dagger. Use Evisceration during spellcasting and Aoelian Edge during TP moves

    If you don't need red then MNK+WHM should be enough with brew. Victory Smite works well. Hexa + Flash Nova work well too.

  7. #1467
    Relic Horn
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdkuser View Post
    Tested on one weapon skill therefore it must be true for all, kk




    Landing all 3 hits at a given % of the time is pretty dumb criteria used by idiots trying to save face when they are proven wrong on the internet.

    At 80% acc RR with 25% DA is doing 89% of its maximum damage.
    At 80% acc AF is doing 86% of its maximum damage.

    So no asuran doesn't need "a lot more" acc to be consistent, its just that you fail at math in general and at probability in particular.
    Since I fail at math, go ahead and show me your math behind 80% acc averaging more than 80% of max damage.

  8. #1468
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDirtyHobo View Post
    Since I fail at math, go ahead and show me your math behind 80% acc averaging more than 80% of max damage.
    Given that max acc is 95%, 80% acc on (e.g.) a 1 hit ws should average 84% of max damage (.8/.95). I dunno how more than that is being calculated but more than 80% is easy to show.

  9. #1469
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foldypaws View Post
    Given that max acc is 95%, 80% acc on (e.g.) a 1 hit ws should average 84% of max damage (.8/.95). I dunno how more than that is being calculated but more than 80% is easy to show.
    Max damage and average damage are different. If you hit for 1k damage flat with 80% acc, your max is 1000, your average is 800 (in 100 WSes, 80x 1000 damage WSes, 20x 0 damage WSes) 950 would be more like your "maximum attainable average".

  10. #1470
    We wear wine red on Wednesdays

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    I might need to actually play NIN in our 6-man for abyssea instead of THF for certain NM's to make use of migawari (And fuck it, just to change it up a little bit here and there. 2 Others in the group have THF etc.), was wondering if any other support job than /war would be good to get used to. Not like you need voke for anything but idk if I want to give up native DA.

    /dnc?

  11. #1471
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    /mnk but giving up procs sucks :c

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidnoftle View Post
    /mnk but giving up procs sucks :c
    Hmm.. GF also plays war nearly full time for the group, though might shuffle her jobs around too.

    So.. telling me I should look into /mnk?

  13. #1473
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    Will be /war for pretty much everything unless soloing really. Can't think of any fights /mnk would be needed for.

  14. #1474
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    What atmas would you suggest for Rani brew?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDirtyHobo View Post
    Since I fail at math, go ahead and show me your math behind 80% acc averaging more than 80% of max damage.
    First hit of WS has accuracy bonus and for most WS is responsible for a proportionately larger amount of damage than remaining/DA/TA strikes.

  16. #1476
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbinthehood View Post
    What atmas would you suggest for Rani brew?
    if jinpu or aeolian edge, gales, ultimate, smiting blow. if DDing, i imagine GH/RR/Apoc. if you're doing nin and alternating, drop smiting blow for RR. rani resists dark, so i wouldn't recommend cataclysm or sanguine blade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fottiti View Post
    First hit of WS has accuracy bonus and for most WS is responsible for a proportionately larger amount of damage than remaining/DA/TA strikes.
    Which would be an acceptable answer (hell, I used it as well), if it weren't for the fact he specifically said you can't assume this because it was 'only tested for one WS' in the post I had quoted.

  18. #1478
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    best hands for RDM using evisceration? and tumbler trunks still best legs?

    thanks!

  19. #1479
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    This is a probably a stupid ass question, but here goes. I just started working on a new magian polearm. First stage is to kill 50 birds under any weather. I killed my first one, and got 45 objectives remaining. Where the shit did those extra 5 kills come from? It's an elemental (going to do fire path) polearm if it matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominico View Post
    This is a probably a stupid ass question, but here goes. I just started working on a new magian polearm. First stage is to kill 50 birds under any weather. I killed my first one, and got 45 objectives remaining. Where the shit did those extra 5 kills come from? It's an elemental (going to do fire) polearm if it matters.
    They patched it so that matchin' day is 1 credit per kill, matchin' weather is 5 credits per kill and if you have matchin' day and weather it's 6 credits per kill.

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