Random Question Thread XIX: Welcome to Flavor Country

[Beave]

This is rampant speculation built on hypotheis, rumor, and conjecture

You said it first, not me.

[Mojo]

10 fast cast is -10 casting time, not sure why you have it represented as 20.

Simplest way to test is cast a cure naked, just merits, it should go off at 60%.

Sub RDM (15 FC), put on full teal (10 FC, total 25) and see if it goes off at 35, if it does the 2 effects are additive. If they're multiplicative it should go off at 40.

Use curaga IV (longer spell usually makes it easier to see) but even then it can still be difficult to pinpoint small deviations. I never leveled WHM past sub so it's not something I ever really considered.

10% Fast Cast => -20% Cast Time -10% Recast Time, unless of course you view Fast Cast V as Fast Cast +30%, in which case it's 10% Fast Cast => -10% Cast Time -5% Recast Time. It's an issue of interpretation, I suppose.

Also, I wasn't asking how to test it, was hoping that someone had done it already.

[Martinius]

nvm, asked and answered

[Niiro]

10% Fast Cast => -20% Cast Time -10% Recast Time, unless of course you view Fast Cast V as Fast Cast +30%, in which case it's 10% Fast Cast => -10% Cast Time -5% Recast Time. It's an issue of interpretation, I suppose.

Also, I wasn't asking how to test it, was hoping that someone had done it already.

The value of the fast cast is the reduction in casting time and half of that is the recast reduction......that's how it is.

I don't know where you're getting this idea from that it's double. It's not a matter of interpretation. Fast cast V is 30 FC, thats -30 in casting time -15% recast.

[TheDirtyHobo]

The value of the fast cast is the reduction in casting time and half of that is the recast reduction......that's how it is.

I don't know where you're getting this idea from that it's double. It's not a matter of interpretation. Fast cast V is 30 FC, thats -30 in casting time -15% recast.

That's more of an arbitrary definition, you could just as easily say FC V is 15 FC which is 30 cast and 15 recast.

However, you are right since the FC items that are actually given a definitive number (ACP bodies) are labelled by their casting reduction.

[Mojo]

Hmm, I was unaware that the ACP body actually read "Fast Cast +5%". I was basing my definition upon trends seen in all other parts of the game. For instance, regarding Salvage bodies. The set bonus for every one of them is 5% (5% Haste, 5% Double Attack, 5% Critical Hit Rate.) The Marduk set bonus has been confirmed to yield -10% Casting Time. So, naturally, I would assume this equated to 5% Fast Cast. However, if the ACP body has actually been confirmed to yield 5% casting time reduction, then it seems Niiro's definition would be correct. It would be odd considering that it would be inconsistent with the rest of the game.

[Niiro]

Marduk body has 5 fast cast on it by itself, the set bonus gives another 5.

[Mojo]

I'm aware of this, but according to wiki and from what I recall, the set bonus itself yields a 10% reduction in casting time that is separate from the body.

[Syntex]

What does the "Augments Kick attacks" from tantra +2 set bonus actually do?

[Mojo]

Sometimes an extra kick.

[Niiro]

The wording is ambiguous, "Total set bonus" could mean the bonus for the whole set, which is redundant since there are no partial set bonuses on salvage gear, or it can also imply the value when wearing the total set (which would include the body). The other salvage set pages use clearer wording, but afaik the set bonus on Marduk is 5 in line with everything else.

Either way fast cast is valued at it's cast time reduction is the point I guess.

[Syntex]

Speaking of set bonuses, does full tantra+2 have to be equipped to get the bonus? I ask because full RDM AF3+2 gives a 60% bonus to duration but 2, 3, and 4 pieces also give partial bonuses. It would be easier to mix and match if that were the case then to be pigeon holed into full timing the entire set.

Anyone know?

[Clash Perez]

Partial sets give partial bonuses. For MNK, a partial set would give a lower activation frequency.

[Clave]

Anyone ever figure out exactly how they changed Sneak Attack and Trick Attack damage calculation for THF main job after it was changed in one of the last couple version updates?

[Byrthnoth]

Anyone ever figure out exactly how they changed Sneak Attack and Trick Attack damage calculation for THF main job after it was changed in one of the last couple version updates?

I've been through the update notes since August and can't find what you're talking about. The only SA/TA mention was related to them having an increased rate of TH proc.

[Nattack]

did anyone ever, since 08, figure out how reacton arm enhances Mijin Gakure?

[Greatguardian]

Speaking of set bonuses, does full tantra+2 have to be equipped to get the bonus? I ask because full RDM AF3+2 gives a 60% bonus to duration but 2, 3, and 4 pieces also give partial bonuses. It would be easier to mix and match if that were the case then to be pigeon holed into full timing the entire set.

Anyone know?

The activation rate goes up as you add more pieces.

2 pieces = 1%
3 pieces = 2%
4 pieces = 3%
Full set = 5%

[Xerlic]

Can DA proc on offhand during WS?

[Byrthnoth]

Can DA proc on offhand during WS?

Yes. I've definitely had 2-DA Rudra's Storms

[Esvedium]

Can DA proc on offhand during WS?

From what I remember, DA can proc on up to 2 hits of a WS, regardless of how you get those extra hits. So if you have a one-hit WS and are dual wielding, I would imagine that it could DA on the offhand hit.

(I have no proof of this...)