Cybersecurity firm HBGary hacked by anonymous

[Acturus]

But really, are any of us surprised they aren't covering it?

I am, and it saddens me.

I has a sad.

[Niiro]

I dont really follow the news (and im canadian). But is this a big story in the U.S.? Was just wondering if it was a big story or just something thats kinda amusing thats going on.

It's not but it should be as this situation represents the tip of a very large and ugly iceberg. The core of it mostly has to do with the government outsourcing security and intelligence work to private firms so instead of breaking the law themselves they can simply hire a third party to do it for them. It goes without saying that these contracts go for absurd amounts of money (taxpayer money) and when administrators of private firms hold federal positions intermittently with their private corporations it's not hard to see how this system is completely defunct and heinously corrupt.

It's all a result of increasing corporatism which has escalated by leaps and bounds in the last decade, the "blurring of the line between public and private". The government is willing to condone questionable, if not outright illegal actions by private firms in order to keep even the smallest of people/groups from speaking the reality of the situation. No significant media corporation would dare try as they either actively benefit from this system (they're all owned by someone) or they understand the backlash it would cause and at the end of the day that's bad for business, which is ultimately all that matters.

I'm afraid this rabbit-hole doesn't have a bottom, Alice.

...is a very good way to put it.

[Celeras]

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/1...ittleintro.jpg

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...wikileaks.ars/

No quarrels about giving them traffic/not quoting, think they've earned it by keeping up with this. Really hope it gets picked up by somebody.

[SephYuyX]

They do a good job at writing articles.

[Cantih]

I'm largely of the same mind as Niiro, though I wish I could explain it better.

One thing for this situation though.

absurd amounts of money (taxpayer money)

(Yeah yeah, bailout, but forget that for a second) Bank of America and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, despite the names, AREN'T EVEN GOVERNMENT BODIES!

[Niiro]

Heh, I know that I was just expanding on the trend and how much of a larger problem it is, not this particular situation.

[Lucavi]

But really, are any of us surprised they aren't covering it?

Kane said it best: "People believe what the media tells them to believe, and the media believes what I want them to believe. It's not complicated at all."

Keeping this kind of thing hush-hush is good for business, which the media (at the highest level) is still a part of. You have to always remember: somebody rich owns each form of "media". Every Fox News or CNN is owned by someone very, very rich.

[Demosthenes11]

decided to leave BofA today, even after I called them to cancel my overdraft fee from something that was completely my fault (they canceled it without even asking hardly any questions).

fight the power?

[Kuya]

Fight the power.

[Caiyuo]

who'd you switch to?

[Demosthenes11]

I work for a startup in the financial service industry coughplug[link]indinero.com[/link]cough and I'm going to a bank that we want to build an API for, probably SVB

[Caiyuo]

lol, thanks, I'd been looking to cancel and considering the options, might try USAA.

sorry deraaaail

[Demosthenes11]

chase is fucking awesome but usually have shit like minimum account balance and stuff, but ya derail end

[Rhinox]

shouldn't do Big banks to begin with. Small banks are just as good and not as shady.

[Kerberoz]

local credit unions ftw

[Demosthenes11]

I dont like paying $3 fees to withdraw from an atm that isn't one of their 4 across my own hometown

[Kerberoz]

That's why you get a major bank card and keep like $100 in emergency funds... or just carry cash.

[Rhinox]

or don't carry cash at all and use a debit card for everything.

Haven't had the need to carry cash in 3 years aside from Tip money.

[Mohoss]

or don't carry cash at all and use a debit card for everything.

Haven't had the need to carry cash in 3 years aside from Tip money.

I would do that, except my weed dude doesn't take cards lol

But yea, other than weed occasionally, I never use cash at all either.

[Kazen]

Same, I almost never use cash for anything except tips. Even the vending machines on campus take cards and if I buy anything in a store I use my debit card.