NFL Offseason Thread: March 3, 2011. A date which will live in infamy.

[Deejay]

owners are fucking fags holy shit

[Chun Liroy]

I hope my class ends on time. Doing presentations today and it's supposed to end at 8.

[Headspace]

It's civil contempt, usually all you get is money damages.

They won't have to worry about money if the players would just take their damn paycut like the rest of America

[Zeb]

No.

It was the '85 season.

Maybe you'll want to say that next time instead of Superbowl in '85.

Dumb football fan.

Post God.

[Melena]

Honestly I feel both sides are being fucking retarded. Only the players happen to be winning the PR war.

[Mizango]

Von Miller is already on my last goddamn nerve. Its the fucking draft and youre about to be a official millionaire, why not shut the fuck up about the goddamn Cowboys and how you wish and pray that youd fall all the way to nine so they can draft you. I hope he fucking Sergio Kindles himself and is out of the league in 2 years.

Again, this stupid shit only happens in fucking Dallas man. Jerruh's brainwashing is a helluva drug.

[Mizango]

I'd wish for far worse, but since this is a "happy" night, ill spare those sorts of comments. Is a mama Talib stray bullet too much to ask?

[Chun Liroy]

Nigga why don't you ever check your fb.

[Valisk]

Von Miller is already on my last goddamn nerve. Its the fucking draft and youre about to be a official millionaire, why not shut the fuck up about the goddamn Cowboys and how you wish and pray that youd fall all the way to nine so they can draft you. I hope he fucking Sergio Kindles himself and is out of the league in 2 years.

Again, this stupid shit only happens in fucking Dallas man. Jerruh's brainwashing is a helluva drug.

The hate is strong with this one.

Can't blame him. He grew up a Cowboys fan and actually went to my high school (Desoto High School). It's a dream to play for your favorite sports team. Miz hates children and their dreams. Hope you don't plan on running for any kind of office. Blackmailing ya!

[Chun Liroy]

I have a question Miz, do you hate the Cowboys for being so popular, and for their fan base?

[Dimmauk]

I have a question Miz, do you hate the Cowboys for being so popular, and for their fan base?

Both, but more their fans than the Organization.

[Dimmauk]

The hate is strong with this one.

Can't blame him. He grew up a Cowboys fan and actually went to my high school (Desoto High School). It's a dream to play for your favorite sports team. Miz hates children and their dreams. Hope you don't plan on running for any kind of office. Blackmailing ya!

LOL an Aggie AND a Cowboy. Talk about being real dumb.

[Melena]

The hate is strong with this one.

Can't blame him. He grew up a Cowboys fan and actually went to my high school (Desoto High School). It's a dream to play for your favorite sports team. Miz hates children and their dreams. Hope you don't plan on running for any kind of office. Blackmailing ya!

Dude, Miz is a white guy who thinks he's black. If there's anything that would kill his chances of having a political office in the south, it's this.

[Valisk]

NFL resuming football operations... For now.

[Azull]

Honestly I feel both sides are being fucking retarded. Only the players happen to be winning the PR war.

Not sure who else here all reads the TMQ column on ESPN but its usually pretty good. He breaks down the labor talks with pretty much the same conclusion.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...k&sportCat=nfl

[Rhinox]

Maybe you'll want to say that next time instead of Superbowl in '85.

Dumb football fan.

Post God.

The 2011 Packers didn't win the superbowl. Everyone who isn't retarded knew what I was talking about

I don't even why I'm responding to this post nigga ain't even on my level.

Point God

[Moss]

Going into the draft with a QB already signed to your roster as opposed to going into the draft without said QB drafting a later round QB "just in case" and HOPE you get to trade/sign a QB after the draft seems like a pretty big effect to me.

Just a semantic disagreement between us then. If a team like the Cardinals isn't high on Gabbert, they aren't going to draft him just so they have somebody to throw out there. As you know, a high draft pick is a big investment. I originally just took issue with the way you made it sound like mass panic and that there would be a rush to draft QBs because there was just no way Kolb and Palmer were going to be traded due to the lockout. Again, semantics, so probably a silly argument.

There are tons of squads that will be targeting Kolb and Palmer but one 2 teams that are going to land them.

I definitely wouldn't say "tons."

It sure would be an enormous weight off a team's shoulders if they knew what their roster looked like prior to the draft. Especially the big hole at QB. I know I'm focusing on QB but this goes for every position. You want to have as many holes filled prior to the draft so you can draft based on need.

Sure it would be a weight off of their shoulders. I heard Miami might make a run at Deangelo Williams, for example, but that doesn't mean with the lockout they have to abandon that thought and take Ingram. And the last sentence I think you meant to say value.

[Headspace]

CAN'T WAIT TO FIND OUT WHO THE BENGALS PICK 5 MINUTES BEFORE THEY ANNOUNCE IT BECAUSE OF ESPNS FUCKING CAMERA WORK

[Lordender]

"With the first pick of the 2011 NFL draft, the Carolina Panthers select Cam Newton, Quarterback out of Auburn."

Saints Secondary: lol
Falcons Secondary: lol
Bucs Secondary: lol

Cam Newton back to pass, picked off!

5 years later..

Cam Newton: PASS DAT SYRUP POPS, PURPLE DRANK!

[Valisk]

Just a semantic disagreement between us then. If a team like the Cardinals isn't high on Gabbert, they aren't going to draft him just so they have somebody to throw out there. As you know, a high draft pick is a big investment. I originally just took issue with the way you made it sound like mass panic and that there would be a rush to draft QBs because there was just no way Kolb and Palmer were going to be traded due to the lockout. Again, semantics, so probably a silly argument.

Mass panic? lol. Are we reading the same post? All I said was teams would go into the draft with question marks on their roster because of the lockout instead already knowing who they had signed and traded for if there wasn't a lock out. I'm sure Kolb and Palmer will get traded, but I think picks will be wasted since they weren't traded prior to the draft. I thought I gave a pretty clear cut example of how if the Panthers were able to land Orton in the offseason (prior to draft) then they wouldn't even be considering taking Cam with the 1st overall pick.

I definitely wouldn't say "tons."

Seeing how there are 32 teams and at least 11 of them need QBs, I'd say 34% qualifies as tons but tomato tomatoe

Sure it would be a weight off of their shoulders. I heard Miami might make a run at Deangelo Williams, for example, but that doesn't mean with the lockout they have to abandon that thought and take Ingram.

It would have just been nice to have better organization and strategy if free agency was available prior to the draft. Not sure why you don't think the way the draft has been going your whole life being interrupted and changed isn't a big deal.

And the last sentence I think you meant to say value.

What's your definition of value? If it's taking the best talent on the board then I disagree. You wouldn't see the Patriots, Colts, Packers, etc taking a QB anywhere in the first 4 rounds regardless if it was the best talent available. Teams, for the most part, draft based on need.