Mouse recommendations

[LinktheDeme]

Seeing this thread and my mouse crapping on me resulted in me buying the G500. It hasn't arrived yet (should in a few hours otherwise UPS made me pay one day shipping for nothing) , but my main concern was regarding the DPI settings as this is my first time with a mouse that can adjust those settings. I was wondering how high do people normally put it like max? Because it appears that putting it is the best way performance but bugs out sometimes?

Generally my impression is that similar to overclocking, you'll get better performance but too much and it'll shit itself out? Or am I wrong?

[sruon]

Never seen any bug with mine, I tend to stay around 1200dpi

[Amastacia]

Seeing this thread and my mouse crapping on me resulted in me buying the G500. It hasn't arrived yet (should in a few hours otherwise UPS made me pay one day shipping for nothing) , but my main concern was regarding the DPI settings as this is my first time with a mouse that can adjust those settings. I was wondering how high do people normally put it like max? Because it appears that putting it is the best way performance but bugs out sometimes?

Generally my impression is that similar to overclocking, you'll get better performance but too much and it'll shit itself out? Or am I wrong?

The only thing changing DPI settings does is change how fast your mouse pointer moves.

It's not really like overclocking. Overclocking is taking components past their design limits to improve performance.

All changing DPI does (for a given mouse sensitivity setting in an OS or game) is change how far the mouse cursor moves given one inch of mouse movement.

For example, I have my in-game mouse sensitivity for MW2 set quite low, so that it's comfortable to move around at 3000 DPI. I retain enough accuracy to attack targets, but can quickly snap 180s or make large aiming adjustments. By bumping down to 2000 DPI, the same mouse movements move my in-game cursor much less, meaning I can't as snappily react to nearby targets, but have steadier aim for sniping. Conversely, bumping it up to 4000 DPI means that very small gestures cause big changes in direction, which is bad for aim, but great for less precise weapons (like shotguns) where close enough and firing first matters more than a perfect shot.

[Purrrfect]

I just recently got the naga. It's not bad. I first had the feeling that it was something of a waste since I have an n52te already (which btw the top right button has stopped working consistently and causes /rage) but recently had the idea that I can map all the auxilary game keys to the mouse (like inventory, quest log, etc) so I need to try that out. I'm not crazy about the placement of mouse buttons 4&5 (forward and back), they aren't really easy to click like my logitech mx revolution I have at work.

[LinktheDeme]

The only thing changing DPI settings does is change how fast your mouse pointer moves.

It's not really like overclocking. Overclocking is taking components past their design limits to improve performance.

All changing DPI does (for a given mouse sensitivity setting in an OS or game) is change how far the mouse cursor moves given one inch of mouse movement.

For example, I have my in-game mouse sensitivity for MW2 set quite low, so that it's comfortable to move around at 3000 DPI. I retain enough accuracy to attack targets, but can quickly snap 180s or make large aiming adjustments. By bumping down to 2000 DPI, the same mouse movements move my in-game cursor much less, meaning I can't as snappily react to nearby targets, but have steadier aim for sniping. Conversely, bumping it up to 4000 DPI means that very small gestures cause big changes in direction, which is bad for aim, but great for less precise weapons (like shotguns) where close enough and firing first matters more than a perfect shot.

Ah thanks a lot, I was aware of what Overclocking was but I had literally no idea what DPI was and everywhere I read just kept mentioning buzz words like it made the mouse more "precise"/"accurate" but it was never explained what it meant.

[Ramor]

There are 6 gamers in my house all with different equipment, and I'll say that out of all of the different Razor mice (deathadder/tron/there's a WoW mouse floating around, a few others in storage) that my roommates have I don't really like any of them. I have generally larger hands than most people so I find that the Razer mice are just super small and lightweight and I don't really like them as much. Personally I have a G500 and love the thing, I find it very easy to change sensitivity in game (sniping for instance I like to keep it high to scan and then lower it when I'm actually zoomed in, TF2 sniping not so much CSS sniping which is more flicker-sniping based), I find it's easy to lower it without feeling like I've lost any chances to shoot someone since the button is in a pretty convenient place on the mouse, I don't use the extra buttons much as I haven't played an MMO lately, but I like them all the same. Another feature I wasn't sure I'd like/utilize much was changing the weights, I love having a heavy mouse too and the interchangeable weights make it pretty easy to have exactly the feel I want.

[avelle]

I have large hands and I love my Deathadder. It's by far the best mouse I've ever owned. I bought it on day one and the response and feel is outstanding. I am on my second one however. Had an issue with my old one after about 2 years where clicking once would actually click twice and had issues dragging windows around.

[Amastacia]

Ah thanks a lot, I was aware of what Overclocking was but I had literally no idea what DPI was and everywhere I read just kept mentioning buzz words like it made the mouse more "precise"/"accurate" but it was never explained what it meant.

DPI is a silly marketing thing that mouse companies are fixated on.

Probably because the mouse is a fairly mature technology, and the only way to justify a premium is with silly gimmicks.

Being able to adjust your mouse sensitivity on the fly is a very nice feature.

Racing each other to higher DPI sensors is just a joke. There's almost no situation where that broad a range of adjustment is even useful. Realistically, 2000-3000 DPI worth of adjustment is more than sufficient to provide precision, speed, and a happy medium of the two.

And more than about 2000 DPI in Windows is painfully unusable, meaning that 2/3 of your mouse's adjustment range is only of value in games (and even then, you're only going to be using part of that range, and which part is largely arbitrary).

[Kerberoz]

And more than about 2000 DPI in Windows is painfully unusable

....what? 5000DPI is great for browsing/multitasking/anything but gaming or Photoshop. Are you using an 800*600 monitor with arthritis or something? Turn mouse acceleration off, because it hinders more than it helps.

[Amastacia]

1920x1200 on my main monitor, 1680x1050 on my second monitor. I think I have mouse acceleration off or set to low at most (I'm not at that PC right now), and I can comfortably navigate either display without lifting my mouse. At 5000 (much less 5700) DPI, a twitch covers all ~3500 pixels.

[Aidin]

I have a Mamba, Naga, Lachesis(First gen), and MX-518. Lachesis and 518 I used for about a year each before I upgraded to mamba. Naga is for MMOs only, I have large hands and it becomes uncomfortable for regular browsing and FPS gaming.

G-500 is a very nice mouse, I'll be picking one up for the next desktop I build. Ive only had a little hands on time with one a friend owns but it was very nice.

As far as the 5000+ DPI being useless.. for most people it probably is. I use a 1600 DPI range on shooters once I have ingame sensitivity all the way down. 4800 normal, up/down 800 if I need to adjust it (Sniping, Helicopters and stuff).

I saw OP already figured out his stuff, but if anybody else is still deciding on a mouse, try to find a local computer store that has at least the logitech mice and get a hands on feel. If you have any high end gaming cyber cafe's, they might have some of the Razer mice. A local one here does.

[Boyiee]

lol at some of these comments. Unusable over 2000 dpi? lol

First off I run a 30inch and 26inch monitor, 2560x1600 and 1900x1200 side by side. I run on 4000dpi 99% of the time in both windows and gaming. Once in a while I drop to 3000, 2000, and 1000... really just to see what the difference is and such when sniping, but I rather the 4k there too. When I ran 2x 26inch monitors I think I ran 3k dpi full time, I only bumped it up with the new monitor.

As mentioned about 400 times in other threads, I've used several logitech and razer mice over the past year and have reviewed them all. Using them all for 1day to 1week of gaming 4-10hours a day in wow, BF2 and Black ops. The order I'd rank them in is G500>mamba>all else. It all depends on how you grip your mouse. If you use the claw grip or the palm or whatever, if you use just your finger tips to move the mouse and click, if you like having your palm on the mouse, if you like weights in your mouse.

I like having my palm on my mouse usually. I like the weights. I like the button placement and macro capabilities of it, and I like dpi of the laser. Also, it has by far the best mouse wheel. It is such a fantastic feature having the free scroll/infinite scroll whatever you want to call it. I never used a mouse wheel for more than changing weapons in fps until I got this mouse. I will say though, that razers wheels are easier to click as buttons (mouse3) than most mice, but the g500 is right there.

I'd recommend the G500/700 first and foremost. Also, razer is shitty and the products fall apart fast. The squeeking mousewheel issue made me want to blow my brains out. If you don't need all the dpi settings, you can change the dpi buttons on the mouse into keypresses, macros, etc. They can open your email or porn folder if you want.

edit: just bumped it up to 5000 and love it. Will probably stay at 4k though, till my next 30inch comes in.

newegg had g500s for 35$ on black friday, got my sister and a friend one - both use full weights as well. There is something about a heavy mouse that I like. Also, if you game, don't cheap out on your mousepad - it's everything. This is something I feel razer does well. For a laser mouse you will probably want a white mousepad, try the white Destructor. If you don't want to spend that much go with Ratpadz http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1465624

[Caiyuo]

Cross-posted in computer deals if anyone else is looking @ the G500

Might put this in the recent mouse thread as well as this was heavily recommended there: http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/47891

Logitech G500 Gaming Laser Wired Mouse $26 after $20 rebate + Free Shipping

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[Aidin]

$59.49 after promo code, with $20 mail in rebate for me right now. The list has out of stock with Auto-Notify, but when I clicked to view the item it said it was in stock and I could add to cart.

[Caiyuo]

yeah looks like it's dead and people are claiming Logitech may not honor the rebate when used with the coupon

[Gredival]

Logitech usually honors it, and Newegg will back up the rebate if they don't

The problem is that the price went from $54 to $70

[Amastacia]

lol at some of these comments. Unusable over 2000 dpi? lol

First off I run a 30inch and 26inch monitor, 2560x1600 and 1900x1200 side by side. I run on 4000dpi 99% of the time in both windows and gaming. Once in a while I drop to 3000, 2000, and 1000... really just to see what the difference is and such when sniping, but I rather the 4k there too. When I ran 2x 26inch monitors I think I ran 3k dpi full time, I only bumped it up with the new monitor.

Assume mouse acceleration is off, but what's your pointer speed set to? If I leave it at default (5) and have acceleration off, a 1 inch mouse twitch at 3000 DPI pretty much covers the entire width of my 1920x1200 main display. That's about as high as I can comfortably leave it and still navigate small icons/buttons comfortably.

Edit: I had forgotten to turn off mouse acceleration in the new version of SetPoint with the G5000, which explains why more than 2000 DPI was brutal. Mea culpa. Oops.

[Fairy-Killer]

I'm with Boyiee. I run at 5600 DPI on my Naga with the acceleration set to 1 and polling rate at 1000. This is all on my 17" Asus G73. It's so fun seeing my roommate and friends try to click something with my mouse, get frustrated at not being able to click something, go for the trackpad, realize it's off, and then proceed to overshoot everything on the screen with the pointer. As for the mouse itself... I love it. I macro useful bits of code on the buttons for when I'm programming, quick swaps for FPSs, abilities on RPGs, and then normal forward/backwards/copy/paste for normal everyday things. They have made a wireless version of the mouse now and there is also a Molten version for those who like red LED lighting better. However, the wired version does not come with some cheap cord. It's actually braided thread or something and is pretty durable.

This is the only mouse that I've actually ever bothered to spend money on, so take my word with what you will. I've never used any other gaming mouse.

[nitsuj]

My Trackball Explorer passed away today and I do not feel like paying $~200 for a new one and do not like any of the other trackball designs available.

Does anyone have any recommendations for traditional mice? Let's set an upper price point of around $150 but I'd go higher if it's worth it. Main selling points are ergonomics and buttons that I can bind to back and forward.

I seriously love this mouse: http://www.google.com/products/catal...d=0CEAQ8gIwAA#

I didn't think I'd ever like a trackball, but now I own two :/

[Shiroikage]

It was tempting, still might pick one up at some time in the future.
I've used a TrackmanWheel and it's pretty good, but it doesn't even compare to the Trackball Explorer.