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  1. #21
    Cerberus
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    A level 90 whm would get far, far slower skillups than a level 4 mule even BEFORE the update. That's to be expected. The higher the skill, the slower skillups get.

  2. #22
    Nidhogg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkar View Post
    Edit: My level 4 WHM mule is getting way more skill ups on Healing magic than my 90 WHM... I thought this change was meant to help those that exped 75+ in Abyssea as well and not only the leeches.

    Well there were updates in the past that made skilling 1-200 easier, so maybe these were an overall addition and 1-200 gets the past buff and the new buff.

    Where as skill 200+ only get the new buff?

    Is anyone noticing a difference 200+ as to before? And by a difference I mean just that A DIFFERENCE, not the difference you were expecting. Although it will be hard to see if it's too small :/

  3. #23
    Ridill
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    The only difference past 200 I noticed on buffs/cures is that I get more than 0.1 and 0.2. The rate hasn't changed.

  4. #24
    Gimp like a Pro!
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    chain 4 korrokola tunnle on worms level sync 19 with 3 ppl. corsair's roll and exp ring: 1055 exp

  5. #25
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    I was getting 110-160ish on ep mobs on my 69war, and also took great axe from 144 (leached from ~45) to 170ish in about an hour. Need to find a new area to skill up in, but so far it's a ton faster than a few days ago. Frequent skill ups, and must were at least .3, .4 & .5 weren't uncommon either.

  6. #26
    D. Ring
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corresapolonia View Post
    chain 4 korrokola tunnle on worms level sync 19 with 3 ppl. corsair's roll and exp ring: 1055 exp
    1055 exp from a single mob at lvl 19?

  7. #27
    Puppetmaster
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    I'm not sure on order of operations for EXP calculations or how it is floored, but ...

    If it was a level 25 worm (highest level worm in the tunnel), it would be

    450 base EXP * .55 signet share for a base EXP value of 247.5, capped to 200.
    Chain 4 bonus for ~280 EXP.
    Corsair's Roll for 24% bonus, ~347 EXP.
    Emperor Ring +50%, ~520 EXP

    +100% increase from new EXP system ~1040. 1055 doesn't sound too far-fetched.

  8. #28
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Classikmage View Post
    So, if you can get skill ups on EP+, I guess that will make Kuftal Tunnel and The Boyahda Tree even more popular than they already are now.
    Probably more related to level than the actual con.

  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    Probably more related to level than the actual con.
    Oh yeah, duuur. Good point, lol.

  10. #30
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    Ada Rusheart
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    Certain EPs will skill you up to your actual level skill now, I noted this and posted in the patch note thread.

    Lower level EPs didn't do anything, so there's a line there somewhere.

  11. #31
    Old Merits
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andradi View Post
    Certain EPs will skill you up to your actual level skill now, I noted this and posted in the patch note thread.

    Lower level EPs didn't do anything, so there's a line there somewhere.
    Before the patch fighting a level 50 monster would raise your skill to your cap at level 50. With this change it might be able (monster level + 10) for your level to cap. SO a level 40 mob could cap your skills to the job for 50. 10 is just an example for this point.

  12. #32
    Graduate of the BG School of FFXI
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    Could get good data outta of a Fortalice right?

  13. #33
    Ridill
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    Any static level mob should work for testing, but obviously you'll want your preferred skill to be at or below its level to eventually see how much it'll creep up. Simply mentioning EPs capping has me thinking mobs 3 levels under you will work, but according to otherwiki, at 85 mobs 7 levels under are still DC. So that'd put the range somewhere between 3-7.

  14. #34
    Relic Shield
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    More rough data...

    Pulled a shitload of Altepa Mandragoras... took a few hundred hits total... honestly not sure how many were actually guarded. Got ZERO guard skill. My current guard skill is 242.

    Spent ~80 minutes killing DC-EM rocs with a Shellbuster (used GH, AoA and Mounted Champion)... took club from 260 to 290.

    In that same time period, I took parry from 100 to 108.

  15. #35
    RIDE ARMOR
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    As far as Enhancing Magic goes: The patch notes don't say anything about revamping the rate at which you acquire skill; all it points out is that combat skills will raise from lower leveled mobs now.

    Haven't tested anything yet so I don't know, but just a thought.

  16. #36
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    Quetzalcoatl

    nm

  17. #37
    Legendary Large Tarutaru
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    http://i.imgur.com/Xziys.jpg

    With Emperor Ring

  18. #38
    A. Body
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    Quote Originally Posted by Horcrux View Post
    As far as Enhancing Magic goes: The patch notes don't say anything about revamping the rate at which you acquire skill; all it points out is that combat skills will raise from lower leveled mobs now.

    Haven't tested anything yet so I don't know, but just a thought.
    Eh, either they're saying things twice, or they did mean to imply that they would:

    * Skills will rise more rapidly, and larger values will accompany each skill increase.
    Though, having spent 45+ minutes spamming Enhancing magic, if they -did- intend for a greater skillup rate, they failed.

  19. #39
    Nidhogg
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    Just got my Blue Magic from ~230 to 276 leaving myself afk by spamming Pollen on myself and it took me ... well, I wouldn't say on average because I didn't count anywhere near that accurately, but I'd like to say about 40 casts average with low end of about 10-15 and high end of 100+ for a skillup.

  20. #40
    Can you spare some gil?
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    did a SMN burn for my friends alt yesterday, she said exp started out at 300, and capped off at 610/kill, did 2 small pulls and got 45-50k/xp was very pleased that I don't have to worry about ghosts / leeches anymore.

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