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  1. #41
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    Anyone try MMM after this update with ring, the numbers should be quite staggering I would think.

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    Problem with MMM is that you can't get more then 1 lvl from a chest. So even if you will get like 15-25k from chest and have for example 1k tnl and 7k tnl for next lvl you will get only 8k exp. Ofc you can MMM at lvl range with 15k+ tnl but why would you want to do MMM for exp past 30?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Problem with MMM is that you can't get more then 1 lvl from a chest. So even if you will get like 15-25k from chest and have for example 1k tnl and 7k tnl for next lvl you will get only 8k exp. Ofc you can MMM at lvl range with 15k+ tnl but why would you want to do MMM for exp past 30?
    Can anyone else verify this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenrien View Post
    did a SMN burn for my friends alt yesterday, she said exp started out at 300, and capped off at 610/kill, did 2 small pulls and got 45-50k/xp was very pleased that I don't have to worry about ghosts / leeches anymore.

    Why wouldn't you take the extra time to reap the full amount of xp? Wouldn't those added mobs end up making it like 90k/per run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandalhart View Post
    Why wouldn't you take the extra time to reap the full amount of xp? Wouldn't those added mobs end up making it like 90k/per run?
    wanted to get the mule to LV.30, I've only got 2 characters, so there is only one pulling after I pull altepa side on my alt, and pulling the rest of the shit on my main, but if I had a 2nd puller along with me then I wouldn't have any problem taking 20 min to pull the full thing rather taking 40 min to solo pull everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LinktheDeme View Post
    Can anyone else verify this?
    Yep, this has been known for quite a while with regards to the at most 1 level up from the MMM chest. It's buried somewhere in the MMM thread.
    You can level up before opening the chest from the reduced exp, but when you open the chest, you cannot gain more than another level. I've personally lost exp this way too while leveling where I died on the last mob that would have leveled me up so rather than gaining 2 levels that session I was 1 exp away when I exited and exp was wasted....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LinktheDeme View Post
    Can anyone else verify this?
    Definitely true.

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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francisco View Post
    More rough data...

    Pulled a shitload of Altepa Mandragoras... took a few hundred hits total... honestly not sure how many were actually guarded. Got ZERO guard skill. My current guard skill is 242.

    Spent ~80 minutes killing DC-EM rocs with a Shellbuster (used GH, AoA and Mounted Champion)... took club from 260 to 290.

    In that same time period, I took parry from 100 to 108.
    I have a much less guard skill to start with (107), but skilling up very fast in Chasm now having a holy war with every mandy trained on my person. @118 now, with in 30 or so mins.

  9. #49
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    re: MMM

    does the cap apply to merit/limit point as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panthera View Post
    re: MMM

    does the cap apply to merit/limit point as well?
    Its not a cap really, Its to say you can't get two levels off 1 bunch of exp.

    Its like the ENMs, you can drag a level 1 mule there but they won't get 3,000 Exp, They'll get 500(to level 2) and be 1 Exp away from Level 3 because the game does not allow you to gain 2 levels off 1 Exp.. "Bunch"?

    So yes it applies to merits as well. Basically If you got 25,000 Exp from a maze and you were 0 into your merit, you'd get 19,999 exp because you will stop 1 Exp short of 2 merits. Now thats not to say you can't level up in a maze, Open the box and level up a second time, then open your "Personal box" and level up a third time, You just can't do 2 Levels off 1 Box because the game stops you at 1 TNL after your first level.

    But then if you're level 75 and your TNL is like 44k, so in that light your max exp from the Chest alone would be something rediculous like 88,499 or something. 1 whole level and 1expTNL on your next level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corgan View Post
    Oh man. The temptation to come back after seeing this...

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    Now if only I still had an allied ring; oh wait it got my sch to 49 and I'm ok with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenshyn View Post
    Anyone try MMM after this update with ring, the numbers should be quite staggering I would think.
    I solo'd a Maze and got 4,500 Exp from the final chest.. With Peon on.

    (used Condit.Contract/Trial-By-Numbers)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    I solo'd a Maze and got 4,500 Exp from the final chest.. With Peon on.

    (used Condit.Contract/Trial-By-Numbers)
    That's interesting. Which Voucher and rune set up other than those you stated? Standard bird maze or did you go for something a little different? Also was this at level 90?

    If SE took the max 1 level increase off, MMM might be used again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcanesoul View Post
    That's interesting. Which Voucher and rune set up other than those you stated? Standard bird maze or did you go for something a little different? Also was this at level 90?

    If SE took the max 1 level increase off, MMM might be used again.
    At level 75+ If you're getting exp not merits the 1 level cap would mean nothing XD, but yah lower levels suffer badly.


    It was at level ~55, I was using an Emperor Band as well.

    so...

    Conditioning Contract
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    Lost And Found (For the GFriend who was PL'ing me, She needs Cond.Contract :X)

    I didn't put family rune on just Tiny Warrior, Ended up getting Triple bats, Friar-Lantern Bombs (Magic/Growing =X), and Big Bats.

    She even killed 4-5 Mobs for me to speed things up, and i still ended up getting 4,500 from the chest. Each mob was giving me about ~60-70 Exp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antithesis View Post
    Oh man. The temptation to come back after seeing this...
    Have you seen the numbers in Abyssea? If exp was holding you back... should look past it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antithesis View Post
    Oh man. The temptation to come back after seeing this...
    Is this a joke? lol. You can make 100,000-300,000 exp an hour in abyssea. Leveling from 75-90 in a few hours is very possible, let alone your level 37 subjob to level 75 can be done in a few hours as well now.
    I been trying to get my friend to come back for 2 months now... in that time I got 5/5 af3+2 and an empyrean weapon completed lol. This game is too easy now and he still he finally came back for 1 day and quit until his stones stock pile from 1 to 100 he said lol.

    Nows the time to come back... the game is better then its ever been.
    I find less time punching holes in my wall and more time having fun with ff11 now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zag View Post
    I find less time punching holes in vaginas and more time having fun with ff11 now.
    Ftfy

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    Martial Master active, doing some skillup on my alt since EVERY abyssea area seems packed.

    [11:53:17]Kehhiko misses the Seaboard Vulture.
    ...
    [11:54:23]Kehhiko's club skill rises 0.2 points.
    [11:54:23]Kehhiko's club skill reaches level 268.
    ...
    [14:03:46]Kehhiko's club skill rises 0.3 points.
    [14:03:46]Kehhiko's club skill reaches level 290.
    [14:03:46]Kehhiko learns "Flash Nova"!

    about 2 hours to do 33 skill points on a B- weapon 200+ skill (on her war). In that same time frame, I've parried 27 attacks on Nyn, and gotten 1 .2 skillup

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    Sorry for double posting, but I found something broken.

    I'm trioing Seaboard Vultures for skillup, one of my chars have signet, and the other two dont, yet they are all recieving the same xp per kill. The char with signet should be getting a 22% bonus, but is not? Maybe some other stuff is subtly broken, because I dont remember any mention of signet/sigil/sanction XP bonuses being modified with the xp change.

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