The Dark Knight Rises

[FNH]

I think it's a line from Ted "It doesn't matter who you are eventually noone gives a shit"

[Acturus]

Speaking of Memento, the only way that movie could mindfuck with you more is if you sat down to watch it after it was halfway over.

I know, because I did. I watched the second half of the movie first, and then went back and watched it again.

If I ever see another scene from Memento, I think I'll have an aneurism.

[Jaxzer]

Let's pretend Begins and TDK never existed and this was simply a prequel to Nightwing. From that perspective Rises was pretty mediocre, IMO.

[Tyrath]

Or we could look at the movie on its own merits. It was pretty damn entertaining.

[Ohemgee]

And god damn at how much weight Tom Hardy put on for the role.

[Jaxzer]

And I second Marion Cotillard's tits. Biggest surprise of the movie.

[FNH]

And god damn at how much weight Tom Hardy put on for the role.

He was 198lbs at filming I think

[TummieGaruda]

Watched it this weekend. I enjoyed it quite a bit, although the last act definitely felt like a letdown.

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Basically, from the time Bane got killed (?) through the end of the film was meh at best, although the last couple of scenes were nice.The Talia thing was predictable; I figured out she was a villain when he saw her scar at the fireplace and it went unnoticed, and figured out she was Talia just a few minutes later. I'm a big Batman comic fan, but I think anyone not familiar with the comics could have seen that coming, just not necessarily her relationship to Ras... The Liam Neeson and Cillian Murphy cameos were a nice touch, and the Matthew Modine character seemed largely (completely?) unnecessary. Overall, I thought it was a worthy conclusion to the trilogy, just not as good as The Dark Knight and probably weaker than Batman Begins.

I didn't get the impression that Bruce Wayne was publicly known as Batman at the end of the film. Obviously, Gordon figured it out, but I didn't think it ever became public knowledge. I felt the speech at the house was considering him a hero because of how much he had done for the city from a philanthropic point of view, not in a superhero way, and they were honoring him for donating his home to the boys' home. I don't think it ever specifically addressed him as Batman; I think that's important if JGL was planning on continuing on with the cowl. At least that's how I read it.

^ This

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- I had a feeling that she was Talia when she first came on screen, but the scar on her back during the fireplace scene pretty much confirmed it. I knew Bruce/Batman was fucked at this point.
- Banes death was mediocre yes, but also a lot of people think Bane was a henchmen when in reality he and Talia were both two parts of a whole. Bane worked at crippling the city while Talia got her hands on the nuclear fusion device. I was under the impression that Talia and Bane knew Bruce built the reactor but they didn't know where hence why Talia had to gain Bruce's trust. Their plan to bankrupt wayne and put Dagget in charge was probably a cover so that Bruce would elect Miranda/Talia instead.
- Talia's death also a bit lame, but you also have to remember her father went out in almost the same circumstances...they both died in a vehicle of some sort that "fell" (Ra's was on the train that fell off the track)

My only real gripe about the movie was that after Bruce escaped the Pit, he just waltzed into Gotham when the city was closed off.

[TacoTaru]

I feel like I missed this part of the movie so if someone could explain it, I would be grateful (assuming it's not a plot inconsistency). I feel like I should know the answer, but I don't

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How did Bane know that the area where Lucius stored the Batmobiles existed, and by extension know where to locate it? Only Lucius and Wayne knew that area existed right?

[Bregor]

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How did Bane know that the area where Lucius stored the Batmobiles existed, and by extension know where to locate it? Only Lucius and Wayne knew that area existed right?

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Guessing that Miranda/Talia found out the R&D location when she became CEO of Wayne Enterprises, and told Bane where to look?

[Weltall]

I feel like I missed this part of the movie so if someone could explain it, I would be grateful (assuming it's not a plot inconsistency). I feel like I should know the answer, but I don't

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How did Bane know that the area where Lucius stored the Batmobiles existed, and by extension know where to locate it? Only Lucius and Wayne knew that area existed right?

Wondering the same thing myself...

[Tyrath]

The best explanation is right above your post. Fox said he wouldn't tell anyone, but I'm sure after becoming CEO Talia could've done some digging to find out.

[Serra]

I wanna know why they didn't take The Bat prototype that seemed to be sitting in that room. Batman's was black, and at the end of the movie, they seem to be working on the same one Fox showed him in the armory..

[Weltall]

The best explanation is right above your post. Fox said he wouldn't tell anyone, but I'm sure after becoming CEO Talia could've done some digging to find out.

The best explanation is total shit, lol.

[Xajii]

I wanna know why they didn't take The Bat prototype that seemed to be sitting in that room. Batman's was black, and at the end of the movie, they seem to be working on the same one Fox showed him in the armory..

Dude was there not a scene in a trailer where there were two flying thingies chasing each other? This did not make the movie

[Xno Kappa]

That's pretty lame to just say Talia found out about it. Wasn't it a pretty big deal in Begins to keep it entirely hidden from the company, with them going through all kinds of lengths to keep it that way?

Not that it bothered me, I coughed it up to typical villain bad-assery figuring it out but it's a legit question.

[Tyrath]

The best explanation is total shit, lol.

Or you know, logical.

[Fhloston]

Bane's co-creator gives his opinion on Hardy's Bane.

If you remember the 1997 film Batman & Robin and the portrayal of Bane there (writer Chuck Dixon does), then you know they kind of did it wrong. While talking about the character with Philly.com, the Joel Schumacher film was brought up.

"They had him as almost an imbecile, when in the comics he is extremely smart," Dixon said.

Dixon was much more happy with the way Nolan and Tom Hardy handled the character.
"Apparently, Warner Bros. was pressuring Nolan to use the Riddler, which would have been too similar to the Joker," Dixon continued. "Plus, the Riddler, like the Joker and so many of Batman's villains, is no challenge against him in a mano-a-mano fistfight. Batman will wipe the floor with him in that situation.

“I am beyond glad that Nolan had the juice in Hollywood to stick to his guns," he added. "From interviews I've seen, it's clear he understands the character and he gets what we were going for. It's not exactly what I created, but he's physically imposing and Tom Hardy is one hell of an actor. I can't imagine Bane being better portrayed."

http://www.superherohype.com/news/ar...k-knight-rises

[Apelila]

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Yes, I know Alfred envisions him yada yada yada. I did say I seen the movie, didn't I? I know he had an identity eraser, as I seen the movie. No one who was a billionaire "playboy" as seen by the tabloids and whose family and himself did so much for the world just becomes a nobody who isn't recognizable, period. It was atrocious writing.

To be fair, he'd been a recluse for 7 years at that point. I know Christian Bale still looks the same, but in your 30's your looks can change significantly over that time period. Bruce Wayne should have looked much different than he did, but oh well. The scene also established a kid, so add another year+. It's not entirely implausible that someone could brush off looking similar with "Him? Oh I get that all the time". People also have a tendency to see what they want to see, so the world thinking he was dead would give him that sort of leeway.

[Serra]

Someone mentioned it earlier, but where was the evidence of a kid? I rewatched the youtubed ending a few times and didn't notice Selina saying anything >.>